The Palestinians were the "original Canaanites"

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I'll answer that with: I'm a Lutheran.

Well good for you. I guess you won't be going to hell when you die like I will.

No, I never said you were going to Hell (Aspies shouldn't try reading between the lines, me included). My point was, I was raised to believe in grace and love earned by the God who humbled himself to die on the cross. Not one who believes in damning people for something their ancestors were responsible for.

I guess that the whole south was 'evil' like the city of Jericho then if ol' Abe was right and god wanted the north to destroy us (and those poor yankees suffered too boohoohoo ). I'm surprised we werent all "put to the sword" (more like a firing squad) for being traitors like the north originally wanted to do. Maybe the liberals will get their chance to finish it when the next civil war comes? I bet they'd secretly like that, then they can all move down south and enjoy our warm weather and low cost of living in peace without any pesky inferior inbred trailer trash redneck southerners to bother them. They'll destroy what's left of our culture just like Americans have done every culture they ever touched.

For all our disagreements, you make a lot of sense to me here. Good stuff.

TW1ZTY, be careful about who you choose to believe. White southern gentry were NOT the good guys in the Civil War. Much of the history was rewritten not to favor the victors, but rather the victims. What we are supposed to think is that modern American liberalism won the war and through a series of events the good guys jumped ship and joined the Democratic party and mean, evil racists jumped ship and became Republicans. True, the Democratic Party has made itself repulsive to bigots, but white democrats do continue to hold a condescending attitude towards victim classes. Those poor non-whites can’t do anything for themselves, they NEED their wealthy, white saviors.

Seriously, for most of my life I’ve been a figurative Confederate flag saver until it occurred to me that flag never represented any of my values. A lot of white Republicans cheer for the south on the premise of states’ rights, but they have a skewed sense of history that plays right into the hands of victim hood. I can’t blame people for buying the narrative and believing we’re all bigots when we don’t strike at the source of it.

Don’t even take my word for it, either. Take a good look at the events leading up to the War of Northern Aggression and the aftermath. I think you’ll find it was never about North vs South, but rather the regional conflict was dominated by distinct ideologies. Southerners got pulled into the war as a matter of defending the lives of their loved ones and deserve to be honored for that. But the government they served was committed to preserving a cruel and unjust institution and is not to be cheered for. It’s strictly been a political war ever since, and the metaphorical South has made significant gains in the last few decades. California pretty much is its own separate country. Blacks continue to be segregated, a cycle perpetuated by “community organizers.” I’ve heard of Hispanics who accept welfare because it pays more to NOT get a job. Remind me...whose policies removed incentives for work? Was it the same party who championed slavery? Heck, if we can’t make ‘em work, at least we can get their votes, right?

Like I said, draw your own conclusions. “The South” is just everyone’s whipping boy, a convenient one for collectivists in this country. It’s a scapegoat. When you get right down to it, this has absolutely nothing to do with geography.

I know that the south were not the "good guys", it's just that it irks me because I know that the north was not so "good" either, although they will say anything to try and convince people like me that they are.

Meh. I get the feeling we'll end up having another civil war sooner or later anyways because of the divide in our country. The most I can hope for when that happens is a quick and painless death.

Unless something REALLY drastic happens, there's no "civil war" in the 1861 sense on the horizon.

Maybe we'll have mobs of left-wing idiots fighting mobs of right-wing idiots.

Since I have no hope of leaving this country I guess I better hide and hope that I don't get bombed.

And once they start cutting off food and medical supplies I'm really screwed because I can't function without my bipolar meds...

Me in a panic when and if the next American civil war comes.

Where does it say that?  Book, chapters, and verses, please...

You probably won't find these "mobs" fighting in your neck of the woods, Twizty.

I forget which chapter exactly (I threw my bible away out of anger unfortunetly) but I believe there was a verse that said after the walls fell and the army entered the city of Jericho, "every man, woman, child, and animal was put to the sword". The only people spared was the prostitute and her family because she allowed the spies to hide in her home.

I'm sure I could google it...

That was the nature of wars then, Twizty.

You could probably easily get the quote just by Googling what you just wrote.

We're not in ancient times, any more.

No need, I know it well. It's Joshua 6:20-22, as follows...

"... So when the rams’ horns sounded, the people shouted.  When they heard the blast of the horn, the people gave a great shout, and the wall collapsed.  The people charged into the city, each man straight ahead, and captured the city.  At the edge of the sword they utterly destroyed everything in the city -- man and woman, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.  Meanwhile, Joshua told the two men who had spied out the land, "Go into the house of the prostitute and bring out the woman and all who are with her, just as you promised her. ..."

HOWEVER, that was just one city, and Rahab the Prostitute and her family were spared besides.

God gave the order to kill everyone, but granted dispensation for those who aided the Israelites.

See I don't believe that's 100% true. Civilians and children are still being killed in wars to this very day, and Americans are just as guilty of doing it as anyone else.

Yes, that's true.

But Americans don't go into towns and villages in Afghanistan, and "put them all to the sword."

Never said we were perfect----but things aren't the way they were in ancient days for most people. Try telling that to someone who is a victim of a massacre by Syrians or Algerians, though.