Overuse of Nazi comparisons

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23 Nov 2020, 7:14 am

Special interests are most welcome to be discussed in appropriate parts of the forum.
PPR special interests should not be discussed outside PPR.
Unless someone identifies as neo-nazi or voices support for genocides, calling them a nazi will be interpreted as an insult.
Unless someone identifies as fascist, calling them fascist will be interpreted as an insult, regardless of subtle fascist-nazi distinguishing.
Insulting political leaders and other public figures is permitted. Insulting WP members or groups consisting them is not.

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23 Nov 2020, 7:23 am

I thought it would be a great idea to use an avatar to commemorate the very first Olympics to be televised since I'm into both history and the Olympics and I made the mistake of not asking the mods or the other members. I also read around that time that the Swastika was the original peace-sign. It was around the time that my position was dissolved at the bank that I was working at and I was having mental health issues. If it was today, I'd use something commemorating the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.

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23 Nov 2020, 7:31 am

While not fully a "special interest", I actually have a significant historical interest in the politics and organisation of Nazi Germany. Do I need to take this interest somewhere else?

Anyway, I do recall someone on WP using the official logo of the SS Totenkopfverbände (the division of the SS specifically tasked with carrying out the Holocaust) as an avatar, once… but even then, I'm not sure the individual knew (or cared) what it stood for...

Conversely, I also recall a few posters on WP who didn't characterize themselves as "Nazi", who were not formally members of any "Nazi" party and most certainly did not serve in an official capacity in the NDSAP, SA, SS or Gestapo under the Third Reich (1933-1945), but who nonetheless held Holocaust-denying, white supremacist, anti-semitic and anti-miscegenation (and a lot more anti) views. For me, comparing such posters to Nazis seems somewhat warranted.

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23 Nov 2020, 7:35 am

magz wrote:

From what I gathered from what I was told, there are certain members who have a "special interest" in getting rid of Nazis on WP. Either by making them leave or getting them banned. Or more percisly those considerd by these "certain members" to be Nazis also called alt-right, white supremacists, facists, racists etc.

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23 Nov 2020, 7:43 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

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Tempus Fugit wrote:

The constant talk of Nazis on WP is bizarre and probably one of the reasons why there are so few members left.

Those who feel compelled to bring up Nazis all the time, need to find some place else than an autism support forum.

There's plenty of other places on the internet you can go to talk about Nazis all the time.

This is PPR not the General Autism section.

You know perfectly well it hasn't been confined to PPR. And this being an autism support forum isn't confined to GAD.

A lot here, some in the news section, and some eugenics talk in autism politics section is about it. It also depends on the topic if you see a thread about Trump chances are the words fascism or Nazi might be used. Not that I am disagreeing with your main point after all I started the thread to complain about the overuse of the word Nazi.

Because a person is interested in the topic or collects Nazi memorabilia does not mean a person is a Nazi.

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23 Nov 2020, 9:12 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:

magz wrote:

Some users seem more likely to engage in ideological confrontations than others.
This often leads to trouble.

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23 Nov 2020, 9:39 am

There are no Nazis here on WP. Nor any fascists.

There have been a few posters who expressed eugenic views, Malthusian views, racist views, etc., which might be views shared by Nazis or fascists.

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23 Nov 2020, 9:55 am

what about, "if it quacks like a duck...."? :scratch:

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23 Nov 2020, 10:00 am

auntblabby wrote:

what about, "if it quacks like a duck...."? :scratch:

If one obviously advocates for a genocide? Last few members who did did not stay long.

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23 Nov 2020, 10:12 am

my point was that there is no real air between being one of the unmentionables, and merely espousing their [unmentionables] positions on things.

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23 Nov 2020, 10:59 am

auntblabby wrote:

my point was that there is no real air between being one of the unmentionables, and merely espousing their [unmentionables] positions on things.

I've seen too many misinterpretations of others' positions, especially in the heat of a confrontation.

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23 Nov 2020, 11:02 am

magz wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

my point was that there is no real air between being one of the unmentionables, and merely espousing their [unmentionables] positions on things.

I've seen too many misinterpretations of others' positions, especially in the heat of a confrontation.

an erstwhile member a long time ago, said i should have been genocided [the poster used more descriptive language]. is that merely an expressed opinion, or does it in your view step over the line into bona fide abuse?

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23 Nov 2020, 11:08 am

auntblabby wrote:

To my judgement, definitely serious abuse.

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23 Nov 2020, 12:00 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:

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It's pretty much the Nazis are everywhere on WP and need to be dealt with attitude that made the place what it is today.

I don't understand, sorry.
Do you mean people claim WP is full of Nazis?

I took that to be what funeralxempire was telling me.

Taking this personally is exactly what we're talking about. Don't throw your weight behind the denial of something that could hurt anyone.

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23 Nov 2020, 12:08 pm

cberg wrote:

Tempus Fugit wrote:

magz wrote:

Tempus Fugit wrote:

It's pretty much the Nazis are everywhere on WP and need to be dealt with attitude that made the place what it is today.

I don't understand, sorry.
Do you mean people claim WP is full of Nazis?

I took that to be what funeralxempire was telling me.

Taking this personally is exactly what we're talking about. Don't throw your weight behind the denial of something that could hurt anyone.

I have no idea what that means.

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23 Nov 2020, 12:12 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:

Oh my bad, bombarding WP with the Nazi "special interest" actually helped this place by making it Nazi free and keeping it that way. I should've realized an autism support forum is where Nazis will naturally flock to.

Just the autistic ones.

I don't believe anyone would suggest that we've ever had NT posters espousing neo-fascist or white supremacist ideology, but that doesn't mean we haven't had posters who've expressed sympathy for those positions.

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