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12 Sep 2021, 5:16 pm

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But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.



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12 Sep 2021, 5:22 pm

Spain had concentration camps ? but very poignant about facism .


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12 Sep 2021, 5:37 pm

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Picasso's "Guernica" painting told the tale of the francoids' brutality towards the rest of Spain. there were indeed the local version of concentration camps in spain after the francoids' victory.



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12 Sep 2021, 5:51 pm

auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.


That makes sense, but even after voting, people are still not satisfied, with sticking it. They feel they have to do all these other things, like violent rioting etc, instead of just accepting the vote to stick it.



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12 Sep 2021, 5:59 pm

thats an impressive piece of above artwork thank you ...if you have any knowledge of the role the nazi s had
in Spain just around the beginning of ww2 . That picture is almost self explanitory. If you can appreciate abstract art ....!


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12 Sep 2021, 5:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.


That's true but it goes both ways. Liberals in costal cities tend to despise middle America and vote in order to stick it to white rural conservatives.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:03 pm

I don’t. If I like a conservative candidate, I would vote for him/her.

But Trump transcends party in his potential evil.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:07 pm

ironpony wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.


That makes sense, but even after voting, people are still not satisfied, with sticking it. They feel they have to do all these other things, like violent rioting etc, instead of just accepting the vote to stick it.

the right wing fascist bullyboys like the patriot boys et al are mad at the rest of us for basically not being just like them [hateful of POC] and getting in their way when they try to do dirt to POC. and the BLM folk are mad that the racists are still allowed to do them dirt and that not enough white folk give a damn about it. each side feels it is their first amendment right to protest these things. it is a train wreck between the BLM types and the right wing types who don't want them to exist.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:08 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.


That's true but it goes both ways. Liberals in costal cities tend to despise middle America and vote in order to stick it to white rural conservatives.

this liberal votes to keep the right wingers off his back and out of his bedroom and to stop blocking his ability to get affordable health care.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:09 pm

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thats an impressive piece of above artwork thank you ...if you have any knowledge of the role the nazi s had
in Spain just around the beginning of ww2 . That picture is almost self explanitory. If you can appreciate abstract art ....!

the nazis didn't have any direct role in franco's takeover of spain. but franco undoubtedly took inspiration from his fellow fascists.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:14 pm

auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But what I don't understand is, why are people so obsessed with elections not going there way. Whenever I go to vote, and the person I vote for doesn't win, my attitude is well, the majority got what they want, win some lose some, etc.

This is the point of the voting system in the first place, is that the majority pick who is best, and just leave it at that. So why can't Americans just accept the majority vote and just let it go? Why impose the way they think it should be at all costs? Why choose to be sore losers?

I'm not just talking about this recent election but the 2016 one as well. A lot of sore losers, just couldn't accept a majority vote, and had to make things real dramatic for the next election. Why can't we all just fight fair and square without all this hitting below the belt when it comes to voting?

because there are tens of millions of people who not only don't want us to progress but actively do their best to take amuuurica backwards to a point in time where they thought their enemies [POC, uppity women and gays] were in their place in prison or the closet [either the '50s or the 1890s]. elections here are not just about our favorite man but about sticking it to people unlike us.


That makes sense, but even after voting, people are still not satisfied, with sticking it. They feel they have to do all these other things, like violent rioting etc, instead of just accepting the vote to stick it.

the right wing fascist bullyboys like the patriot boys et al are mad at the rest of us for basically not being just like them [hateful of POC] and getting in their way when they try to do dirt to POC. and the BLM folk are mad that the racists are still allowed to do them dirt and that not enough white folk give a damn about it. each side feels it is their first amendment right to protest these things. it is a train wreck between the BLM types and the right wing types who don't want them to exist.



And that's precisely why some people are worried about the possibility of another civil war happening in the US with all this racial, political, and social class tension. A modern civil war would tear us apart like it did for Colombia or Syria.

I think 5 years ago nobody would have ever thought the idea if another American civil war would even be possible, nor did they think we might face an economic crisis rivaling the Great Depression.


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12 Sep 2021, 6:18 pm

i sure as hell am not gonna just lie down and play dead in the face of these people trying their evil best to disenfranchise me or worse.



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12 Sep 2021, 6:27 pm

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I don’t. If I like a conservative candidate, I would vote for him/her.

But Trump transcends party in his potential evil.


But how does he transcend party though? Liberals still believe in their believes and democrats still believe in theirs, even though Trump is gone. Who the leader is, doesn't change anyones believes, so therefore, who cares who the leader, is, if everyone is just going to remain the same anyway?



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12 Sep 2021, 6:29 pm

ironpony wrote:
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I don’t. If I like a conservative candidate, I would vote for him/her.
But Trump transcends party in his potential evil.


But how does he transcend party though? Liberals still believe in their believes and democrats still believe in theirs, even though Trump is gone. Who the leader is, doesn't change anyones believes, so therefore, who cares who the leader, is, if everyone is just going to remain the same anyway?

strumpy does not transcend the GOP, he IS today's GOP, lock stock and barrel. so in effect strumpy is not only NOT gone but right here still.



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12 Sep 2021, 8:54 pm

auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I don’t. If I like a conservative candidate, I would vote for him/her.
But Trump transcends party in his potential evil.


But how does he transcend party though? Liberals still believe in their believes and democrats still believe in theirs, even though Trump is gone. Who the leader is, doesn't change anyones believes, so therefore, who cares who the leader, is, if everyone is just going to remain the same anyway?

strumpy does not transcend the GOP, he IS today's GOP, lock stock and barrel. so in effect strumpy is not only NOT gone but right here still.


I agree. The GOP has fully embraced Trump.


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12 Sep 2021, 10:33 pm

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agreed , but inspite of general opinions about Trump , it was one of the things he was doing about China and the USA . Adding tariffs to Chinese imports , making incentives for people/ corporations to make things in this country . But our media was playing this type of stuff down here , in favour of Trumps character assasinations. But this is probably not a popular opinion to express here . :roll:



For some reason, WP is more tolerant of diverse political views, just recently.

Yeah, not everything/k Trump did was bad.
Encouraging manufacturing to come back to America was a positive.
Hasn't the Biden administration recinded the tax incentives, however?