12 May 2022, 6:17 am
12 May 2022, 6:18 am
AngelRho wrote:
What you give someone as part of a mutual agreement carries conditions, likely that you’d get it back in some form at a later time.
Again with the "agreeable transaction" argument trumping a woman's rights to her own body. Transferring DNA is not a binding contract on the woman to fulfil by giving birth - it's not fixed in stone as you would wish it to be and not least in all of this is how she feels about it. A man can just walk away at any point - a woman must be afforded the same right even though she is pregnant.Quote:
Whatever ends up in the dumpster is fair game. And where human life is involved, someone has to be held accountable when it’s destroyed.
You think a woman agonizing over the decision and undergoing an abortion doesn't feel accountable? That she is unaware of the enormity of her decision? There are no "what ifs" weighing heavily on her mind? No grief for what is lost? Sorry, but your statement is a little too vengeful for my tastes.The least she needs at this point is being told that she has no protected right to make that decision.
I've shamelessly copy/pasted this from a newsletter received through email. It's a good summary -
The Supreme Court is expected to overturn Roe v. Wade, ending the national right to an abortion. If that happens, the medical procedure will be severely restricted or just outright banned in about half the country. A lot of people are extremely upset about this because, among other things, they think the government should not get to treat 50% of the population like second-class citizens, and that pregnant people should be allowed to decide what to do with their own bodies, just like men can chose to, say, have a vasectomy without a bunch of elected officials weighing in.
12 May 2022, 6:27 am
12 May 2022, 7:07 am
12 May 2022, 7:13 am
Tim_Tex wrote:
I am praying for rioting and anarchy in every red state.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Maintain the hate.
Got it.
12 May 2022, 7:16 am
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I am praying for rioting and anarchy in every red state.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Why?
because 1] the moral busybodies richly deserve blowback, and 2]when they are being torn apart from within then they can't make as much trouble for the rest of us saner states.
Some people simply have different priorities.
Respecting the life of a foetus is hardly a despicable principle in itself, would you not say?
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12 May 2022, 7:20 am
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I am praying for rioting and anarchy in every red state.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Why?
because 1] the moral busybodies richly deserve blowback, and 2]when they are being torn apart from within then they can't make as much trouble for the rest of us saner states.
Some people simply have different priorities.
Respecting the life of a foetus is hardly a despicable principle in itself, would you not say?
the life of the mother takes priority in my book. any other philosophy is exactly the same as relegating all fecund women to the status of breeders.
12 May 2022, 7:31 am
auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I am praying for rioting and anarchy in every red state.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Though I would have done this even if Roe was upheld. Red states and countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia need total chaos more than anything.
Why?
because 1] the moral busybodies richly deserve blowback, and 2]when they are being torn apart from within then they can't make as much trouble for the rest of us saner states.
Some people simply have different priorities.
Respecting the life of a foetus is hardly a despicable principle in itself, would you not say?
the life of the mother takes priority in my book. any other philosophy is exactly the same as relegating all fecund women to the status of breeders.
You changed the context.
I was referring to respecting the life of the foetus.
There was no suggestion by me that the mother would be in danger.
The *general* principle that is embraced in the *general* discussion by anti-abortionists is the sanctity of life.
In itself, I would find that hard to argue against.
But there are other considerations at hand, such as the one you described.
12 May 2022, 7:51 am
Why do you care about other people's children only before they are born?
12 May 2022, 8:03 am
Fnord wrote:
Why do you care about other people's children only before they are born?[/color]
I suspect pro-life representatives might also be supportive of family planning.
12 May 2022, 8:07 am
12 May 2022, 8:19 am
12 May 2022, 8:20 am
12 May 2022, 8:21 am
Pepe wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Why do you care about other people's children only before they are born?
kraftiekortie wrote:
. . . there are people who are not compassionate when it comes to poverty. Some of these same people speak of the "rights" of the unborn child, and call themselves pro-life -- but they backtrack when it comes to helping people down on their luck who are live -- like babies whose mothers cannot afford formula.
Again, where are all the "Pro-Life" advocates now? Why do they not care about babies that have already been born?
12 May 2022, 8:41 am
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