08 Aug 2007, 2:16 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.
And you would know this how exactly?
I've been sucked.
But only by my wife.Exactly.
And, incidentally, why is it OK for you and your wife to engage in oral sex, but not me and my (non existent) girlfriend? After all, neither of these would result in any kids. So how does you and your wife being married somehow make it alright for you, but not me?
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08 Aug 2007, 2:24 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am disappointed that you still havent really tried to improve your rebuttals and still implement ignoring things and giving glib responses that do not contribute...
I'm not a student in your classroom. I had a teacher friend who talked to me the way you are, and she apologized for it because she was shifting into "teacher mode" unaware.
Sedaka wrote:
you know, it's not even necessarily a bad thing to admit you dont have the answer for something....
that at least would show you are giving soem sort of true consideration for things
that at least would show you are giving soem sort of true consideration for things
I already admitted I don't understand evo theory in detail.
ill apologize when you admit what blatant ignorant ass that you're being...
Sedaka wrote:
you dont have a logical reason for why homosexuality is a sin and why it's not something that just goes away when you want...
If you can manage to willfully keep away from other people's naked genetalia, then homosexuality has gone away from you as far as the Bible is concerned. That willfulness involves trying to curb your lust as well. We're above beasts, and we should act like it.
Sedaka wrote:
your little example and "comparison" of the nature of the sins (which you now back out of) had no logic whatsoever...
I don't back out of it. You just don't receive points you don't want to receive.
Sedaka wrote:
you cant fathom homosexuality as you have claimed
That's a wild enough claim to be untrustworthy -- especially since I know my own thoughts better than you know my thoughts.
a) i dont consider that an apology.... just your last resort
b) just because im not gay doesnt mean i sin any less on the topic... because i think being gay is fine and perfectly moral... and actually no.... that still does concern the bible (god) or else he wouldnt care about things like coveting or the true nature of your heart......... and how do you know who i am? do you know that i havent been with women? ive stated on other threads id like to have many men and that i'd be fine if women were rpesent... so dont just think you can write me off and push me to the side cause you dont have the fortitude to deal with me head on....
c) you did back out of the comparison by saying that they are different.... i received whatever frivoulous points you deem non-trivial... you ignored my point for several pages and then answered it with one of your infamous one-liners.......
d) if you can make such claims on my knoweldge of your thoughts and strifes.... how can you say you know what it must be like to deal with such strifes being a gay person trying to "convert" for salvation... did you used to be gay and have sucessfully started living a hetero life for god??? if not.... then you cannot fathom what that is like... it's the same point you just gave me (different context in principle,sllightly, which gives me more precedence for using it in the context i did... but then, we're not thinking that much on these matters... so it's kinda mute at this point) and this is all i want you to concede... im nowhere near as pretentious as you are, but i have to over simplifiy and generalize things in order for you to even take a bite... so im trying to take these little irrelevent points you try to make in stride...
08 Aug 2007, 2:35 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
and i think it's stupid you sad you treat this like anything else unimportant to you........ (ESPECIALLY when you put words into God's mouth! gotta be a sin in there somewhere)
In regard to the phase I bolded, to what are you referring?
can you keep nothing straight?
im referring to your claims of meshing evolution with the will of god.... when clearly dont dont even believe in the CORE concepts of evolution
with your literal interpretation of things... it's illogical and blasphemous (to god and evolution) to do so
Sedaka wrote:
people who take less literal intepretations of the bible have no qualms putting the two together
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
but it's deceving and thoughtless (cause you dont seem to care about trivial points) on your behalf to make such gossamar statements
You're seeing "devils, devils everywhere", and I don't know what you're ranting about.
you're like a squirrel who cannot remember where he put his nuts.......
must be nice not having to worry about such trivial stuff.
Hey, don't pick on my brain. It's mercurial, and I don't apologize for that. You forget all kinds of things you and I have said, it's just typical absent-mindedness on both our parts, fellow human being.
08 Aug 2007, 2:38 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:41 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:41 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.
And you would know this how exactly?
I've been sucked.
But only by my wife.Exactly.
And, incidentally, why is it OK for you and your wife to engage in oral sex, but not me and my (non existent) girlfriend? After all, neither of these would result in any kids. So how does you and your wife being married somehow make it alright for you, but not me?
yeah... why Ragtime?
08 Aug 2007, 2:45 pm
08 Aug 2007, 2:48 pm
then what-d we have to change
must we hide and conform to what christians say?
(like I am told to conform to the NT ways)
08 Aug 2007, 2:55 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.
And you would know this how exactly?
I've been sucked.
But only by my wife.Exactly.
And, incidentally, why is it OK for you and your wife to engage in oral sex, but not me and my (non existent) girlfriend? After all, neither of these would result in any kids. So how does you and your wife being married somehow make it alright for you, but not me?
Sopho, why do you care what I think? You've already said, and shown, that you don't, so why waste my time? You too, Kilroy.
Your real problem with me is that I esteem God above man.
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08 Aug 2007, 3:01 pm
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08 Aug 2007, 3:05 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.
And you would know this how exactly?
I've been sucked.
But only by my wife.Exactly.
And, incidentally, why is it OK for you and your wife to engage in oral sex, but not me and my (non existent) girlfriend? After all, neither of these would result in any kids. So how does you and your wife being married somehow make it alright for you, but not me?
Sopho, why do you care what I think? You've already said, and shown, that you don't, so why waste my time?
Your real problem with me is that I esteem God above man.
people keep asking cause you never give answers to their questions.....
you never have logical reasoning beyone "cause the bible says so"
which is the whole point of these conversations...
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