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02 Sep 2022, 11:28 pm

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What I don't understand is why people immigrate to another country, knowing that they will be treated like second class citizens compared to their own country.

Because they're not actually treated like second class citizens, and the potential to succeed in the West is much greater than where most of these people come from. Don't let the self flagellation of the wokes fool you, no one is trying to smuggle themselves out of the West for a reason.

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02 Sep 2022, 11:29 pm

Oh okay, but what is this about no one is trying to smuggle themselves out of the West, or what do you mean?

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02 Sep 2022, 11:49 pm

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Oh okay, but what is this about no one is trying to smuggle themselves out of the West, or what do you mean?

I mean no one is suffocating in shipping containers trying to get into Asia and Africa, it's only America and the greater West that people are willing to go to those lengths to get into.

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03 Sep 2022, 12:42 am

Well it's just that people describe America, and Canada, as racist hellholes, to non-whites, so I am wondering why so many would want to come here, on containers even, if that's true...

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03 Sep 2022, 3:23 am

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Well it's just that people describe America, and Canada, as racist hellholes, to non-whites, so I am wondering why so many would want to come here, on containers even, if that's true...

Third world countries are non White. And third world countries are also poor. White countries are rich. Folks move from poor countries to rich countries. So nonwhite folks are going to migrate to White countries. And not the other way around. Simple as that. Doesnt matter if the folks in your destination country are racist against you. Discrimination is better than starvation.

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03 Sep 2022, 3:24 am

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wouldn't it be the same thing if the situation was flipped and a white person immigrated to India, and wouldn't Indians give him/her the more crappy jobs? Or would that make employers in India racist as well, for not hiring foreigners for better jobs as well?

Google what jobs Americans are doing in Asia. All graduate professional positions.

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03 Sep 2022, 3:26 am

Dox47 wrote:

ironpony wrote:

Oh okay, but what is this about no one is trying to smuggle themselves out of the West, or what do you mean?

I mean no one is suffocating in shipping containers trying to get into Asia and Africa, it's only America and the greater West that people are willing to go to those lengths to get into.

Have you seen the movie "Turtle Beach"?

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03 Sep 2022, 6:29 am

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Beavis and Butt-Head, the 3 Stooges: low comedy.

The Marx Brothers, “Barney Miller”: high comedy.

Gulliver’s Travels: high satire

I don’t really make such distinctions because it seems rather snobby IMO. People like what they like.

Sexual humor is often considered “low brow” but there’s a fair amount of it in Gulliver’s Travels.

Physical humor also is often considered “low brow,” but the Marx Brothers used that quite a bit, too.

The show Beavis and Butthead was not without social commentary/satire.

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03 Sep 2022, 6:56 am

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So, doesn't look like a lot of white people in that business generally, let alone monopolizing it while forcing poor immigrants to do the dangerous work.

You really have no grasp of the real world do you? Immigrants don't come with wads of cash to buy out these businesses, They work for several decades (whether it be US, Canada, UK or Australia) night and day to not only pay for their children's education but to put instalments of their accumulated life savings toward buying out these businesses. Currently a lot of them are owned by Indians and Arabs but for several decades they all had to work for w****y.

What you see as opportunism to me looks like sheer hard work and sacrifice,

Sounds like what a lot of white people do too.

Stop being racist too. It's just annoying and you've made a habit of doing it here. We all know full well what you meant by that last word. It was a racist slur.

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03 Sep 2022, 7:24 am

There is a false image of the USA (and Canada) as being places which are paved with gold.

Why did that Chilean guy leave to immigrate to Canada? Probably because of false impressions. Chile is not Haiti. The guy made a big mistake, in my opinion.

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03 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm

The Woke Movement is the reason we can't have anything nice, anymore.

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03 Sep 2022, 12:58 pm

There is a reason a lot of people from other countries migrate to the UK (some even sailing here themselves) but I won't post it because it will be reported as racist, even though it isn't racist but it is to some, especially if they don't live in the UK themselves they'll probably not know what I mean.

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03 Sep 2022, 1:06 pm

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Have you seen the movie "Turtle Beach"?

The notoriously terrible fictional film so bad that it's known colloquially as "Turkey Beach"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Beach_(film)

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Though its subject matter – the tragedy of the Vietnamese boat people – is inherently interesting and its players attractive, Turtle Beach is so full of melodramatic hokum that it never rises above superficial soap opera... [The film] superficially resembles The Year of Living Dangerously, but is undermined by simplistic dialogue (Chen explains everything the film has already shown us) and obvious plotting (government paranoia plays a large part in the film's twists and turns)... In the end, the film is little more than platitudes mixed with exploitation, and certainly a waste of Scacchi's and Chen's talents.

Is this the kind of thing you base your opinions on?

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03 Sep 2022, 1:15 pm

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Our generous welfare state.

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03 Sep 2022, 1:52 pm

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Our generous welfare state.

Yeah, that's probably the most PC way to put it.

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03 Sep 2022, 8:38 pm

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Is this the kind of thing you base your opinions on?

I lived in Malaysia for 3 years so I know it's based on actual events.

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