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skafather84
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22 Sep 2008, 6:57 pm

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there already is a new world order. the order of the world has been vastly reshaped by the internet and by the amount of information now readily available.


unfortunately it also means that things like this can get rolling and gain popularity.


So who's behind it then?.. surely not me. I didn't start this. did you?

Or did they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGM9POWc-C4


who's in the video? job history? what their sources?


where's the proof? anyone can testify. evangelicals do it all the time, their god is still fake as ever.


Anyone can testify, that's right.. do you need their names?.. what difference does it make if they have names? it's clip from a congress hearing of some sort. And it is very clear that they are talking about harmful weather control.



can you even prove it's a congressional clip?


Can you even admit that it's evidence?


it's hearsay. hearsay is not evidence.


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22 Sep 2008, 8:20 pm

It is evidence, how much more evidence do you need? I've also posted a clip of Kissinger discussing this.... Skafather you used to be partially awake at least to the Patriot disinformation level. Was it not "entertaining" enough?



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22 Sep 2008, 8:22 pm

Henry Kissinger admits to it, and goes into detail, also stating "the people will have to know their place". Bear with me peeps, strain your 5 second attention span to actually watch this for several **minutes*** (oh my god it might give you an anurism).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKwH3kJew4

PS- don't be so lame as to attack the source of the link, when it's coming right out of the horses mouth, the source of the link is rendered irrelevant



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22 Sep 2008, 8:24 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
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who's in the video? job history? what their sources?


where's the proof? anyone can testify. evangelicals do it all the time, their god is still fake as ever.


Anyone can testify, that's right.. do you need their names?.. what difference does it make if they have names? it's clip from a congress hearing of some sort. And it is very clear that they are talking about harmful weather control.


It is clear that he was alleging that there are harmful weather control apparatuses being operated by the NWO. What is not clear is whether he is right. The fact that he stood up and said something is only a starting point - not a conclusion.

There are congressional hearings on other issues (like global warming, abortion, gun contro and other controversies) and some of the witnesses are credible while others are (to put it nicely) not so credible.



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22 Sep 2008, 8:30 pm

CNN admits to the North American Union, which Bush signed into legislation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA



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22 Sep 2008, 8:31 pm

They admit it AGAIN (I hope your actually watching the videos, and not just commenting back without having even looked at the proof):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U



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22 Sep 2008, 8:38 pm

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It is evidence, how much more evidence do you need? I've also posted a clip of Kissinger discussing this.... Skafather you used to be partially awake at least to the Patriot disinformation level. Was it not "entertaining" enough?


well i did enough digging in the right areas and saw things for what they are and not some ambiguous boogie men who're trying to enslave the human race.

the main points you're against are socialism and unchecked globalism with a corporatism backer. the problem is that you're blowing it up much larger than that and adding motives beyond the obvious.


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22 Sep 2008, 8:55 pm

You said it yourself "beyond the obvious", well any fool looking for truth should be able to see the obvious. I've been digging for a long time...

Guess what? It's right under your noses, you just have to read the right books...Read Plato's "Republic". It describes how they model society after a bee hive, the bottom are worker bees (us), then comes the drones (politicians, celebrities, etc), and at the top are royalty.... The controllers. They've got an industry for everything, plato discribed this... "Culture creation" and such, education, religion, etc molds people. It's all connected bra, and there are a lot of occultics involved..... You mentioned Bohamian Grove before and I remember it too. Yeah well I investigated s**t like that a lot deeper. Your issue is you think this was all a natural evolution of society.



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22 Sep 2008, 8:56 pm

Various other books written by high ranking freemasons have also made mention of the bee hive order.



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22 Sep 2008, 9:33 pm

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CNN admits to the North American Union, which Bush signed into legislation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA



no north american union. this is what was signed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_a ... artnership


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22 Sep 2008, 9:54 pm

by the way, in order to make the amero possible, they'd need to completely demolish the economy because it'd have to be viable to go from the dollar to a new currency. this would also mean a lot of bloodshed because the dollar is not going away cleanly.


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22 Sep 2008, 10:21 pm

Does anyone else ever notice conspiracy theorists source of choice is youtube?

For god's sake, it's like the Attractor of the world's stupidity. God Himself could be on youtube and I wouldn't pay attention.


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22 Sep 2008, 10:22 pm

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Does anyone else ever notice conspiracy theorists source of choice is youtube?

For god's sake, it's like the Attractor of the world's stupidity. God Himself could be on youtube and I wouldn't pay attention.



pretty much.


the conspiracy theorist's choice isn't simply youtube but misleading clips that connect together their conspiracy how they want.


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23 Sep 2008, 1:01 am

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Does anyone else ever notice conspiracy theorists source of choice is youtube?

For god's sake, it's like the Attractor of the world's stupidity. God Himself could be on youtube and I wouldn't pay attention.


A-MEN!

BTW ShawnWilliam and snake321, WHAT THE FUCK makes you think that all YouTube videos are authentic???
I dont really give a sh1t about all this talk regarding *street smarts* because that aint got nothin to do with COLD HARD FACTS.
If the youtube video that you posted is authentic ShawnWilliam, WHY cant you give us some means of verifying this?!
I cant help but laugh my ass off at how you both resort to insults just because we ask questions about where these outlandish ideas come from! As skeptics everywhere like to say: get a life. :wink: :D



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23 Sep 2008, 1:02 am

Henry Hale Bliss was the first known car accident fatality. In new york 1899.

Tesla died in 1943. 7 January 1943. More than forty years after people began zipping around in those new fangled machines. Is your source suggesting that it took 40 years for a person to die in a car accident? Its reasonable to assume you are not.

It wasnt very hard to find out. Google had the answer for me in seconds. A visit to a library would confirm that in minutes. A check against his patent applications would show that he was alive and well long after the advent of the automobile.

Which is pretty good evidence that the perpetrators of global conspiracy myths dont do their home work, or else they just make stuff up.

For the next point of evidence to his date of death we could check county records for his death certificate.

After that, if we really wanted to verify things we could find people that have met him. If he really died in 1943 then he still exists in living memory. Photographs would exist. People will still be alive that remember him.



So my question for you is this: did the source of your information regarding Tesla's time and cause of death make a grave elementary mistake, or were they perpetuating an untruth?


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23 Sep 2008, 1:07 am

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Henry Hale Bliss was the first known car accident fatality. In new york 1899.

Tesla died in 1943. 7 January 1943. More than forty years after people began zipping around in those new fangled machines. Is your source suggesting that it took 40 years for a person to die in a car accident? Its reasonable to assume you are not.

It wasnt very hard to find out. Google had the answer for me in seconds. A visit to a library would confirm that in minutes. A check against his patent applications would show that he was alive and well long after the advent of the automobile.

Which is pretty good evidence that the perpetrators of global conspiracy myths dont do their home work, or else they just make stuff up.

For the next point of evidence to his date of death we could check county records for his death certificate.

After that, if we really wanted to verify things we could find people that have met him. If he really died in 1943 then he still exists in living memory. Photographs would exist. People will still be alive that remember him.



So my question for you is this: did the source of your information regarding Tesla's time and cause of death make a grave elementary mistake, or were they perpetuating an untruth?



you know a fact about tesla that i always thought was really cool? he was friends with mark twain. can you imagine being in a discussion with those two people? man...two of the smartest people in the world and they're best friends. too bad tesla wasn't a fan of einstein.


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