You know you're a sniveling liberal when...

Post Reply New Topic

Please give me a legitimate source for that 2011 NASA report. * The fact remains that NASA has made many statements that AGW is a fact.
On a related subject just today a new NOAA report revealed that global warming is much worse then previously stated.
* More likely, you read a conservative blog that took NASA's statements out of context. I give sources. Can you? Nasa admitted that they lied to get funding? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you claimed that there was a mouse in your kitchen, I would not ask for much evidence. However,if you claimed that Bigfoot was in your kitchen,I'd require at least some credible evidence before taking your claim seriously.

No source of mine could ever be legit in your mind so why even bother to go back and find them.


NASA gets its money from Uncle Sugar so it behooves them to follow the party line. Surely you're not so naive as to believe it's about integrity or mere facts.
I work for a government contractor that provides services to the US government. I know all about chasing the dollar and bending facts (to put it mildly) to fit the desired results.


Another government agency for ya.


I don't believe in bigfoot, either.

To sum it up, it all goes back to what I said two years ago that got your tail in knots.
You can tell it's BS by the way they get rabidly upset when you question it.
Thank you for proving my point.

Raptor, the way you say that 'NASA's 2011 report proves that there's no global warming' makes me think that you never actually read said report, but rather are repeating someone's talking point. Is that an accurate supposition?

Obviously, if he had a source he would have given it. A quote from NASA can be easily verified. The claim that I would not accept a verified quote from NASA is absurd and an excuse for posts that lack any substance (mere claims without evidence or sources).

Raptor is a true believer. Facts and logic will never make him question his position. Unfortunately, he does not see that believing that EVERY scientific organization in the world is part of a conspiracy appears kooky to most people.
As to his "argument" that he is correct because by forcefully proving him wrong, I have demonstrated emotion and that shows that somehow I know that I am wrong...well that is

Repeat post

That's not really what happened though is it, I'm surprised you're trying to hide behind this one?
NASA data was manipulated by Dr Roy Spencer, who's paper was then published in the journal "Remote Sensing". The presentation of this theory was not by NASA but by an academic sponsored by ExxonMobil and who also believes in "intelligent design".
Post those links, then we can all laugh at them.

The right wing elite use the propaganda technique called "the big lie"* to keep their sheeple (dittoheads etc) in line.
1. NASA admitted that AGW is fake and they lied to get funding.
2. The entire scientific establishment is part of a conspiracy.
3. There will be "death panels" under Obamacare.
4.Obama is an alien.
5. Obama is a Socialist/Communist that is a tool of Wall Street and the banks.
6. Obama is a Muslim/Atheist that belongs to a left wing Christian church.
Old school Republicans (not many of those left) are disgusted by such lies. For example, McCain confronted a supporter (and loony) that said that Obama is a Muslim by saying that tho he strongly disagrees with Obama, it is absurd to call him a Muslim.
* The "big lie" is a propaganda technique invented by Hitler. Tell a lie that it so huge that people will believe it because they cannot believe anyone would claim something so easily refuted.The "big lie" also works because it is sexy. Data, facts and logic are not sexy.That is why Limbaugh,Beck,Hannity are popular. Unfortunately history has shown that "the big lie" works!

Last edited by wittgenstein on 08 Aug 2013, 7:10 am, edited 5 times in total.

Repeat post,
I am confused! After posting the above it said unable to retrieve data so I re-submitted.

So if I change my party affiliation, will my sinuses clear up? (P. S. I'm not in the liberal party of Canada as I live in Alabama.)

When you sympathize with Osama Binladen and are mad about his death!

UMMMM Did you know that Obama had him killed?
Here are more examples of the big lie.*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOkuI9gBLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h172eAPdPFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqA8oxY6aao
* See my post 5th from the top on this page.

Yes, that Raptor really is awful.

My point is that (like your last post) your posts are all about emotion. No one can convince a person that relies exclusively on emotional appeals. (Wittgenstein hurt my feelings,he thinks I am aweful).
Debates can only be productive if they concentrate on facts,data and logic. I have provided facts and primary sources. You simply make unsupported claims that I and other posters refuted and speculate as to what my feelings are. You have no idea what I feel. That is why,most people stick to the facts in a debate and avoid the emotionalism.
Seriously,I have nothing against you. I am against your position because as I proved it is based on emotionalism and not facts and logic. I apologize if I hurt your feelings.

You are joking, I hope.

If I did not hurt your feelings, why all the emotionalism? My point was also a request, that we debate the facts.
This is not about, you vs me. It is about your position vs mine. Suppose you proved that I am a sadistic debater. That has nothing to do with the debate.
For example,
1. Manson is an evil liar.
2. Manson said that 1+1=2
3. Therefore, 1+1 does not =2.
is an illogical argument.

Last edited by wittgenstein on 08 Aug 2013, 1:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.