Why Jews are smarter (as a group) than most groups.

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16 Jan 2013, 3:06 pm

'Having a short pointy finger does not mean Spock was was your uncle'
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16 Jan 2013, 4:28 pm

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Scrawny little Jews built a bomb in Los Alamos that wiped out tens of thousands of brawny Japanese..

The brain is mightier than the sword or muscle.

The most intelligent prevail in the long run.

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Yeah, thats something to be proud of, an instant holocaust device, still, what does it matter if the skin is yellow or brown eh?

Now and then one of the Master race cannot resist revealing thier true feelings of superiority over the rest of us lessor races.

Lets hope they dont employ the Samson Option so they can completly clean the world of us the unclean.



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16 Jan 2013, 5:11 pm

The Jews are pretty smart but I would have to give credit to the Chinese they were 1200 years ahead of their time and ate with eating utensils while everyone else still ate with their hands!


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16 Jan 2013, 5:45 pm

Nambo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:

Scrawny little Jews built a bomb in Los Alamos that wiped out tens of thousands of brawny Japanese..

The brain is mightier than the sword or muscle.

The most intelligent prevail in the long run.

ruveyn


Yeah, thats something to be proud of, an instant holocaust device, still, what does it matter if the skin is yellow or brown eh?

Now and then one of the Master race cannot resist revealing thier true feelings of superiority over the rest of us lessor races.

Lets hope they dont employ the Samson Option so they can completly clean the world of us the unclean.


Cut the crap please. That was a war on which the -Japanese- started. The alternative to the A-bomb was the use of gas or chemicals which Truman approved, by the way. An American invasion of the Japanese homeland would have produced over one million American casualties. The Japanese didn't have any scruples about butchering up the Chinese. Why should the U.S. have any scruples about butchering up the Japanese? It was a nasty war which needed nasty means to bring it to a conclusion.

The Sampson strategy is the last resort. If anyone plans to destroy Israel they should be prepared to by a very steep price for the privilege.

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16 Jan 2013, 6:45 pm

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17 Jan 2013, 12:35 pm

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Jews are smarter than Asians. Especially when you consider how small of a group they are. They make up like 2% of the US population and probably 1/3 of our Nobel Prizes in the sciences.


This argument is ridiculous because of all the assumptions it makes. The most important of them is that higher probability to be a Nobel Prize winner is the same as higher probability to be smart.

It is easy to provide an alternative theory. That intelligent Asians have a lot more prospects in engineering than your average person from the Jewish culture. And those Asians bitten with the research bug have a *huge* employment market in the private technology sector. The "problem" with the private tech sector is that it does not bring much interest from the Nobel committee (Mostly because most of the research is almost never shared). But it has quite the economic advantages.

So it seems the current evidence points that researches with a Jewish context are more likely to work on general purpose studies with little funding and that are more likely to bring the interest of the Nobel committee.

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What Asian scientists can compete with Feynman, Einstein, Witten, Weinberg, etc.. for example?

grrr.


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17 Jan 2013, 12:42 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
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It is easy to provide an alternative theory. That intelligent Asians have a lot more prospects in engineering than your average person from the Jewish culture. And those Asians bitten with the research bug have a *huge* employment market in the private technology sector. The "problem" with the private tech sector is that it does not bring much interest from the Nobel committee (Mostly because most of the research is almost never shared). But it has quite the economic advantages.


That is an excellent point.

I propose that we let the Asians handle applied science and let the Jews take care of the theory. Since all applied science eventually started out as theory, this would be an optimal use of the various talents.

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17 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
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It is easy to provide an alternative theory. That intelligent Asians have a lot more prospects in engineering than your average person from the Jewish culture. And those Asians bitten with the research bug have a *huge* employment market in the private technology sector. The "problem" with the private tech sector is that it does not bring much interest from the Nobel committee (Mostly because most of the research is almost never shared). But it has quite the economic advantages.


That is an excellent point.

I propose that we let the Asians handle applied science and let the Jews take care of the theory. Since all applied science eventually started out as theory, this would be an optimal use of the various talents.

ruveyn

Ruveyn, I don't think that was his point.



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17 Jan 2013, 4:04 pm

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Ruveyn, I don't think that was his point.


There I go, being obtuse again. What was his point?

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17 Jan 2013, 4:09 pm

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Ruveyn, I don't think that was his point.


There I go, being obtuse again. What was his point?

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I think he was describing a difference in opportunity, not in aptitude.



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18 Jan 2013, 12:08 am

Hitler said that the German nation would be better off if it exterminated 70% of the population deemed to be its weakest members. So according to his own logic, he was doing the Jews a favour then...



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18 Jan 2013, 1:02 am

I think 'smart' is a completely meaningless buzzword on an ASD forum. How many people with specific talents on this forum are considered intellectually inadequate by the people who know them?



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18 Jan 2013, 8:26 am

ruveyn wrote:
That is an excellent point.

I propose that we let the Asians handle applied science and let the Jews take care of the theory. Since all applied science eventually started out as theory, this would be an optimal use of the various talents.

ruveyn


When you say "talents" you imply an innate skill for that stuff. My claim is that every group is really as likely to be smart/intelligent. But of course different geographical placements and cultures imply a difference in opportunity. Jewish geniuses that live in Asia's technological super powers would be more likely to end up in engineering.

Intelligence is such a fun thing. Who is more intelligent? Albert Einstein who had various ground shaking ideas on physics but would have most likely starved if he didn't get the Nobel Prize? Or Steve Jobs, who had basically ZERO ideas of his own but was enough of a manipulator to fool people into looking like so?


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18 Jan 2013, 9:38 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
That is an excellent point.

I propose that we let the Asians handle applied science and let the Jews take care of the theory. Since all applied science eventually started out as theory, this would be an optimal use of the various talents.

ruveyn


When you say "talents" you imply an innate skill for that stuff. My claim is that every group is really as likely to be smart/intelligent. But of course different geographical placements and cultures imply a difference in opportunity. Jewish geniuses that live in Asia's technological super powers would be more likely to end up in engineering.

Intelligence is such a fun thing. Who is more intelligent? Albert Einstein who had various ground shaking ideas on physics but would have most likely starved if he didn't get the Nobel Prize? Or Steve Jobs, who had basically ZERO ideas of his own but was enough of a manipulator to fool people into looking like so?


Talent is not a group thing. It is something possessed by individuals. However there are cultural and perhaps religious factors that conduce to the full flowering of individual talent. Also there are many different kinds of talent. Not all talent falls in the domain of tje intellectual or abstract. Some talent is visceral and physical like the talent of athletes and acrobats.

It so happens that the Jewish cultural matrix produces as an incidental side effect opportunities for those with the talent of abstract intellect to flourish. That sort of cultural matrix existed for a time in Athens in the classical period and it shows the intellectual excellence is not exclusively a Jewish thing.

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20 Mar 2013, 11:58 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
Do you know that there is a condition called aspergers syndrome that can give people some intelligence advantages. Apparently this condition is inherited.
I have aspergers syndrome. Nobody encouraged me to learn about computers, or technology or to show an interest in science. I hope that one day I will be rich. I stand a better chance then the (average) in the office I work in.
You are so right...I mean, no one in my family encouraged me to have an interest in languages- heck, NO ONE whatsoever in my family even speaks another language. :)


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