What do you think about abortion

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Fetus/developing human = definitely will become a "full" human in most cases (barring genetic disorder or something or murder)

Hence, abortion is technically killing a human

I'm all for it though. It's probably better to never be born than to accept the risk of having a terrible life.

(I'm sure I've already said this.)

Honestly I used to think I should of been aborted. But now I have realized that most of the problems I have had are of my own making. You have a horrible life because you choose to.

For those who are not in reality life is about pain and lots of it. Sorry life is not all pleasure and everything is going great all the time. Wake up to reality.

I have wasted too much time trying to avoid pain to realize that I will always experience and nothing can ease the pain except making the best of what I have and try to be happy with what I have.

If you have a problem with life it is your own fault not anyone elses. Take accountability and stop whining about it. Do something about it.

I am so tired of the whole I have aspergers so feel sorry for me. I have done that myself and honestly it is a defeatist attitude that need to stop.

I am saying for my own sake as well. I am pretty fortunate to still be here and I am alive and I should be grateful for that. Instead I wasted a lot of years trying to erase me.

Honestly I think we live in the Nihilist generation. Teenagers having sex and drinking and doing drugs. A bunch of whiny crybabys and "MTV" losers. I am ashamed of the youth of today because they could care less about the future.

Anyways, I am done being a part of this nihilistic world view. It is time to give meaning to my life.

I think fascists should mind their own business, and stay the hell out of peoples reproductive freedom.

And before we ban abortion, we should ban your religion, which has been responsible for more deaths of born people, then have ever been aborted, and your pedophile priests who have molested more born children then have ever been aborted.

And if the mother does induce a miscarriage it is simply an aborted pregnancy.

Oh no, now you did it. You brought logic into an abortion debate.

So I guess pro-lifers are fascists. What does that make pro-choice then, liberal commie anti-lifers?

If the feds or the state decide to outlaw abortion this does not mean that they are fascist. Protecting innocent lives is not Fascism or Totalitarian in any way. In fact, totalitarian has no regard for the welfare of anyone who does not submit to their will and I doubt they even care about their own subordinates. They in fact profess that humans have no rights at all.

Anyone that says that humans (or fetuses or animals) do not have a right to live is a fascist or a Communist.

If humans do not have a right to live than how do we even have human rights. This should be the supreme human right, to live.
Everyone who is for abortion probably also believes that assisted suicide is okay as well. Then why is that illegal? Suicide is another choice right yet it is illegal to murder yourself. That's right it is a crime. So why should murdering a helpless lifeform be legal when suicide is not. Sorry it is not your right to destroy any living thing. That is god's right and god's right only. Everything should be given a fighting chance to live in this world. It is not a privilege it is a right. I guess people could argue that a fetus actually is not in the world but the woman that carries it is in the world thus negating your argument.

This is why I do not condone Abortion, capital punishment, or suicide. They are the easy way out and the easy way out should be illegal on the grounds of it being immoral, unethical, and unsound. Just as much as it is illegal to murder another human being in cold blood. Murder of any kind is immoral, unethical and unsound.

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"Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you. They don’t want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine; if you’re preschool, you’re f****d."

I'm sure said conservatives don't want someone killed after they're born (unless you know, they just want people dead).

"How come when it's us its abortion, and with chickens it's an omelette." Seriously best line ever.

Honestly we should start saying, "Hey I would like my aborted chicken dead side up."

I know this is a serious conversation but as long as your bringing out the George Carlin then why be serious.

Seriously can we get Denis Leary's take on abortion while we are at it. I am sure he would totally make Carlin look like a joke.

If humans have a right to life then,why do right to lifers support capital punishment? Texas is passing the toughest anti-aboution law in the country. Texas also executes more people then all other states combined.

You are only pro-life until the baby is born. You pro-lifers are not consistent. You have no rational argument. You have no moral argument. You have nothing.

So do you concede that George Carlin is right? That conservatives just want to raise babies to be dead soldiers?

Honestly I do not really consider myself to be a true pro-lifer. I mean I am not conservative and I am against the death penalty. The idea that only the fetus is important is stupid. There should a third option for the stance on abortion. I think that not only should the fetus also the person that is born after.

I agree with why people think pro-lifers are full of crap because they are especially if they only care about the fetus and not the baby that is born. And you are right that they have nothing if all they care about is the fetus. Sorry I am not technically pro-life then. But I still do not agree with abortion for different reasons.

I guess someone is going to say if you are against abortion than you can only be a pro-lifer which would be stupid because I do not really belong to any specific camp of thought. I don't agree with a lot conservative viewpoints and I am definitely not a liberal really either. So not sure what that makes me how about an individual with my own beliefs. Why do we have to label everything. It is stupid and pointless. Forget the labels they mean nothing to me. Aspergers as a label is also stupid. We are all human beings. I do not care if you are NT or AS or Alien or blue-skinned I will like you anyways. There is no room for hatred of anyone. I like people based on their behavior not their labels. We are not some product on a shelf at a supermarket. People are not commodities and thus should not be labelled period.

Really? They don't? So why do said conservatives keep sending people to be killed in foreign wars? Why do said conservatives keep sending people to death row?

Hypocrisy much?

Conservatives are the enemy and so are the liberals. They can rip each other apart for all I care. I think that conservative republicans want to make everyone into a soldier. But honestly liberal Democrats are no better with their weak and socialist ideas. Liberal Democrats like to whine and complain about things and do nothing about it. Look at Obama. He is all talk and no walk. Plus he is getting dangerously close to pushing us into a socialist state. The Democrats are the ones with no balls. They would rather send in the Drones than fight wars like a man. They justify the use of drones where there are less American casualties but more collateral damage as in women and children. American occupation of the middle east should of never happened. Most people want to think that they were protecting our freedom when they were only interested in the oil. The whole blood for oil concept. Just look at what they did to Baghdad. No different than what the Nazis did in London. The amount of innocent Iraqi lives lost is a stain on the history of the US. The fact is Iraq lives by the code of eye for an eye so its no wonder the terrorists have tried so hard to destroy the US. Not only that the US was supplying aircraft to Iran. If anyone has studied world conflict than you would know about the concept of "blowback."

Wars are always fought over two things: resources and religion. That's it. Oh and American big business profits from war as well. It is a common practice in capitalist nations like the US. War increases the economy. It is not about freedom at all. That is only an excuse to justify mass murder. American government are just war mongers and profiteers. Just look at how they do nothing to fight the war on poverty. The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.

I am pro-life and therefore against the death penalty. I am in favour of welfare and government programs that increase opportunities for young people, provide security for those who need it and a safety ned for when things go really bad. I feel like you are addressing a straw man, a Michelle Bachman type figure who so far has not decided to join this conversation. Until that person arrives please restrain yourself from pigeonholing everyone who is pro-life.

You are in the minority of people who are against abortion. Again Texas is the most anti-abortion state and also the most pro-death penalty state.

I would ask you this. Why do you think you have the right to interfere with other peoples personal reproductive freedom? If you are against abortion, fine don't have one. But why to you feel you have the right to control other peoples extremely personal decisions?