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05 Feb 2007, 11:42 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Please, everyone here is missing the greater problem. That problem is that Winston Churchill never existed!! I mean, sure you claim he played a major role in WW2 but really that was an actor named William Lambry who was impersonating Winston Churchill because that was considered a cool name at the time. If you don't believe me then prove that Winston Churchill was himself, try it!!

Rack him!!

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05 Feb 2007, 1:16 pm

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I am going to need to you take a few days and think about it, and then write me an essay.

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05 Feb 2007, 1:32 pm

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I am going to need to you take a few days and think about it, and then write me an essay.

I have written crazier essays then that, I assure you!

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05 Feb 2007, 1:35 pm

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I'm sure future historians will think we thought Hitler was a mythical beast.

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05 Feb 2007, 1:36 pm

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I'm sure future historians will think we thought Hitler was a mythical beast.

I would definitely not be surprised!! :lol:

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05 Feb 2007, 1:41 pm

And also that the holocaust never happened. And that Paris Hilton was the symbol for our generation. And also that Al Gore somehow made a factory that produced hurricanes, thereby allowing us to harness the incredible raw power in a hurricane to get off of fossil fuels. (This will also be how Al Gore took over the world.)

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05 Feb 2007, 1:41 pm

Don't forget that Al Gore invented the internet!!

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05 Feb 2007, 1:46 pm

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Don't forget that Al Gore invented the internet!!

As long as we're talking about falsly attributed quotes :roll:

Poor Al Gore. He gets nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts on global warming, and all we can do is poke fun at him...

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05 Feb 2007, 1:58 pm

dexkaden wrote:

As long as we're talking about falsly attributed quotes :roll:

Poor Al Gore. He gets nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts on global warming, and all we can do is poke fun at him...

I love pulling that out. I am sorry, I just love doing so, even in semi-serious economic discussions I pull that out.

Meh, he is one of those people fun to make fun of. Besides, at least none of us pulled out the "manbearpig" thing about that. If you want to make fun of somebody else, we can do so and GLADLY!! !

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05 Feb 2007, 2:27 pm

They'll think that Al Gore was the leading cause of global warming... and with all the hot air he spews they'll be correct.

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05 Feb 2007, 2:51 pm

ahayes wrote:

They'll think that Al Gore was the leading cause of global warming... and with all the hot air he spews they'll be correct.

Please we all know that Global warming is caused by flatulence and that in order to slow it down we will have to fart less, but be certain to still fart though due to spontaneous human combustion!!

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05 Feb 2007, 3:26 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Don't forget that Al Gore invented the internet!!

OMG this thread just keeps getting better.

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05 Feb 2007, 5:45 pm

Speaking of farting, did you know that they are now mixing methane and oxygyn for rocket fuel? Cool, huh? A sort of positive outcome from all those cows...

But ultimately, the only solution for global warming is the annhiliation of the human race. Volunteers will be rewarded in heaven; resistors will spend their remaining days on earth.

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05 Feb 2007, 5:55 pm

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Speaking of farting, did you know that they are now mixing methane and oxygyn for rocket fuel? Cool, huh? A sort of positive outcome from all those cows...

Cool!!

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But ultimately, the only solution for global warming is the annhiliation of the human race. Volunteers will be rewarded in heaven; resistors will spend their remaining days on earth.

Hmmm.... interesting. You know, I think that game theory somewhat applies here, don't you?

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05 Feb 2007, 6:23 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

I wonder what effect that will have. He probably will not like your assertion, I know I will not write an essay over this as he arrogantly suggested, and really, even he admitted earlier that capitalism was in line with human nature

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I believe capitalism is necessary but only because man himself is the problem

I don't really see the major issue because even our opponent admitted that as it stands socialism cannot be put upon a human society.

No economic system is pure one or the other... i.e. universal health-care, and yet again you failed to define human nature. This is what I want from you, a definition, otherwise you do not really understand that which you speak of. I am not saying there is no "human nature", but it is such a vague term, that anyone can through around to justify anything in their arguments. Next capitalism is "in line" with human nature because it exists by the threat of force (military/police/government) there are many dissident factions around the world. The thing you keep not realizing of course is that capitalism is a weasal word, no economic system is pure one or the other.

Even in a "socialist" world, most of the 1st world lives in mixed economies.

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05 Feb 2007, 6:28 pm

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Among intellectuals who consider themselves "scientific," the phrase "the nature of man" is apt to have the effect of a red flag on a bull. "Man has no nature!" is the modern rallying cry and typical of the sentiment of political philosophers today was the assertion of a distinguished political theorist some years ago before a meeting of the American Political Science Association that "man's nature" is a purely theological concept that must be dismissed from any scientific discussion.

If you're aiming this at me, you don't even understand my position. Obviously man has two goals in his life: To survive, to replicate. He has also inherited through evolution, the biobehavioural baggage of the past, and genetic influences that cause ignorance (i.e. religion, etc).

Define the nature of man, what is it to you? If you can't define it then it proves you don't even much understand it except on the level of vague generalities. In that somehow its tied to evolution and evolutionary psychology, (of which I agree).

Slavery was once a part of "human nature", so was discrimination against blacks, gays, etc... so if human nature (prejudice) is so malleable, what else is?

Human nature, or rather HUMAN NATURES (plural) are individual personality characteristics, that are ultimately about the guiding principles within a man's head he uses to make decisions, and ultimately are a demographic issue. There are superior men and women who are not infected with the lower barbaric half of "human nature" (guiding principles that govern behaviroual decision making, i.e. inferior genetic programming). As this thread very well proves.

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