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05 Jan 2015, 9:49 am

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Muhammad and Jesus both taught that only one god exists.

But Muhammad openly rejected the God of Christians (Trinity) and even today Moslems regularly trample each other to death in their frenzy to stone the "Three Pillars" that represent the God of the Christians.

Is there no one around here that is not addicted to a mushy, sentimental, completely uninformed subjectivism?



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05 Jan 2015, 10:44 am

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Muhammad and Jesus both taught that only one god exists.

Muhammad's teachings seem to reach back to Mosaic Law and to ignore or deny Jesus' teachings.

Moses was raised as a polytheist, as an adopted Prince of Egypt.

He was shown otherwise by God, who chose him to lead His people to freedom.

Once he got them out of Egypt, what did they do?

Make a golden calf, or cow, which would have been an avatar for Hastur.

By that time, some Jews had become believers in the Egyptian deities.

Polytheism kept popping up in Israel throughout OT history, too.


All hail almighty Hastur, Cthulhu, and Nyarlathotep!


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05 Jan 2015, 1:08 pm

Oldavid wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Muhammad and Jesus both taught that only one god exists.

But Muhammad openly rejected the God of Christians (Trinity) and even today Moslems regularly trample each other to death in their frenzy to stone the "Three Pillars" that represent the God of the Christians.

Is there no one around here that is not addicted to a mushy, sentimental, completely uninformed subjectivism?


Muslims worship the one god of Abraham, as do Jews. Trinitarian Christians are the ones with the deformed understanding of the god of Abraham.


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05 Jan 2015, 5:12 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Muhammad and Jesus both taught that only one god exists.

But Muhammad openly rejected the God of Christians (Trinity) and even today Moslems regularly trample each other to death in their frenzy to stone the "Three Pillars" that represent the God of the Christians.

Is there no one around here that is not addicted to a mushy, sentimental, completely uninformed subjectivism?


Muslims worship the one god of Abraham, as do Jews. Trinitarian Christians are the ones with the deformed understanding of the god of Abraham.


Or perhaps the Christians had been given a wider revelation of God's nature?


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05 Jan 2015, 6:32 pm

Only one way to settle this,a Muhammad vs Jesus SmackDown.


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05 Jan 2015, 6:37 pm

Oldavid wrote:
Is there no one around here that is not addicted to a mushy, sentimental, completely uninformed subjectivism?

Ok David.. let's talk subjectivism... you haven't answered my last question... perhaps because it was off topic.. so I made a new thread.
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05 Jan 2015, 6:39 pm

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Only one way to settle this,a Muhammad vs Jesus SmackDown.

Cage-fight? Woohoo!


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06 Jan 2015, 3:14 am

Dear Funeralxempire, your signature is superb.

Simply superb.

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06 Jan 2015, 3:18 am

To whom it may concern,

I meant Hathor.


Sorry.

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06 Jan 2015, 3:33 am

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To whom it may concern,

I meant Hathor.


Sorry.

:oops:


Really? With your Miskatonic University reference with which you sign your posts, I took the use of Hastur's unholy name to be purposeful. :?


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06 Jan 2015, 3:56 am

I would probably follow Jesus if the corrupt church hadn't ruined it for me. Muhammed is way to militant.



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06 Jan 2015, 8:40 am

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I would probably follow Jesus if the corrupt church hadn't ruined it for me. Muhammed is way to militant.



but is this really the truth? the reason why muhammed and his followers was "militant" is becuse it was self-defence. if they did not defend themself, they would die.

they never attacked anyone, it was they who got attacked.



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06 Jan 2015, 11:13 am

Sylkat wrote:
Dear Funeralxempire, your signature is superb.

Simply superb.

:mrgreen:


Thank you. If only it was original. :P

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funeralxempire wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Muhammad and Jesus both taught that only one god exists.

But Muhammad openly rejected the God of Christians (Trinity) and even today Moslems regularly trample each other to death in their frenzy to stone the "Three Pillars" that represent the God of the Christians.

Is there no one around here that is not addicted to a mushy, sentimental, completely uninformed subjectivism?


Muslims worship the one god of Abraham, as do Jews. Trinitarian Christians are the ones with the deformed understanding of the god of Abraham.


Or perhaps the Christians had been given a wider revelation of God's nature?


I don't disagree, but wider is really just another way of saying different.

In terms of theology and understanding of their relationship with God, Muslims seem to not be not far removed from Bronze Age YHWY cultists or maybe the Jews of Biblical times.

Note this isn't me suggesting their religious interpretation is more correct or valid, only that those two seem more similar on the surface. The fact Jesus was a Jew and Muhammud wasn't doesn't inherently mean Jesus' cult will be the one that's more Jewish in beliefs, practices and customs.

At the end of the day Christianity was a religion for Indo-European gentile (Greek-speaking Romans), non-Semitic people. Islam was primarily intended for Semitic Arabs who already shared many cultural practices with Jews, or at least 'understood' them. Semitics had traditions of requiring 'ritual cleanliness' (including circumcision) and of 'purity' (no mixing meats, cloths, grains, ect.), Indo-Europeans had traditions of trinitarian gods and had nothing analogous to kosher laws.

I'm aware that in the early days of Christianity Jewish Christianity was a significant portion of Christianity overall, but there's no reason to assume these people were trinitarian in their interpretation.

Since I'm rambling and getting no closer to making any real point I'll just trail off here...


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