Who do you support for the Democratic nomination?

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[quote="Jacoby"]We're all getting played, the elite of the elite freely float between the establishment of the two parties and hedge their bets either way. Do you think it mattered to Wall Street if Mitt Romney was president? Their annoited ones Jeb & Hillary seem like total duds but they're completely interchangable, the GOP establishment has a whole line of losers nobody likes. It just goes to show you how fake our democracy is, which voting group was begging for these unfair trade deals? They can scare the sheep into wanting war, everything is a manipulation by special interests. They control information, they control the narrative, it's all fake.

True enough. I feel that the decision of who gets elected is made in backrooms in Washington, not by us, and we just get to pick the one that nauseates us the least. I vote mainly because then I feel it gives me a license to b***h. This pathetic system needs to be shaken up, but I'm not holding my breath.

How is he essentially a Marxist? last I've heard he wasn't calling for a violent revolution to instate communism, which is essentially what 'Marxism' is. He certainly does seem vaguely socialist which certainly could help the infrastructure and seems he wants to put the people first and end this catering to the wealthy elite. I wish this whole socalism/communism is the epitome of 'evil' would stop especially when it is so painfully obvious the countries used to represent these things are totalitarian who claim 'socialism/communism'. I guess technically you can have sort of a fusion of socialism and totalitarianism but socialism and democracy can also go together just fine. As for communism that hasn't occurred, closest thing is probably hippie communes but those are certainly smaller scale than a country for instance.

I am prone to hyperbole so I didn't mean it literally, there are quite few things I disagree with Bernie about tho and I think he is more of an authoritarian-lite nanny state European democratic socialist where as economics aside I put a lot more value on civil libertarianism and non-interventionism than Bernie does. Sanders is unique for this country but not the world, I don't look to Europe particularly Scandinavia as being the type of country we'd want to be as far as our freedoms go and I don't think Europe is doing all that well either. I think he elevates the debate and is way less of a liar than the vast majority of these politicians, I just never would vote for him.

I am just not seeing the authoritarian bit at all...also 'non-interventionism' isn't the solution for everything. I mean sure the idea of excessive regulations or very limited personal freedom are very unappealing...however without any government regulation whatsoever on anything there would just be chaos. For instance having social programs and welfare for struggling americans is an example of government intervention, having safety regulations or employee rights on a job is an example of government intervention, bringing resources/aid to an area just hit by natural disaster is an example of the government intervening...and I don't really think any of those are bad things.


But it seems he actually is pretty liberal on personal freedom...he wants to end for profit, private prisons he wants everyone to have the option to go to college, I imagine he's probably not going to reverse current marijuana legalization/decriminalization going on. I just have not seen or heard anything from him that implies he wants to place any more limits on personal freedoms....which is the thing that has surprised me about him because usually with most 'democrats' I am very disappointing when I actually look into where they stand on social issues and personal freedom.

I'm voting for Cthulhu.

http://www.cthulhu.org/

I wish someone could explain to me why I have to pay 25-30 percent of my wages in taxes and why someone who makes much more should not have to pay the same percent of what they make in taxes. The word socialism is somehow being confused with fairness. I also think that the term "conservative think-tank"is a huge oxymoron

His running mate should be Hastur, The King in Yellow.

why vote for the lesser of two evils, indeed

-In the US we have "Medicare tax" , and as President Obama informed everyone, "Medicare is a ticking time bomb".

-In the US we have "Social Security tax" that was looted for other programs and just IOUs are left.

-In the US we have "Income tax" which didn't even exist until early 1900s, and even with all this new revenue, they blew through an additional 18 trillion+ dollars in borrowed money, presently.

-Locally, we have a "gas tax" that I found out was diverted to the schools. So, the road workers want more now.

-Locally, the cities keep asking for more , for new police stations, new court houses , to add fire/police ... this is like a game the cities play and hope they wear you down. In the city I live in, the city paid a consultant to advise them on how to get tax increases through - despite the voters rejecting it twice before.

Taxing doesn't work, because greedy people will find a way to get their hands on that money.

20 years from now, taxes will be much higher, all the social problems will be perceived as worse, and the rich will be richer.

The problem with taxation is that the people who can afford to pay them are able to weasel out of their responsibility by use of loopholes justified by notions that they're the job creators and shouldn't have to be burdened financially, and that calls for them to be taxed are based on class envy rather than concern for the country's well being. Close those loopholes, and seize the property of any of those rich a$$holes who want to give up their citizenship to escape taxation. Make it impossible for corporations to desert American workers in order to avoid taxation. Then taxation will take care of those problems.

make something like a VAT with an income exemption for up to 400% of poverty level for a typical family or individual. who can escape a VAT?

VAT? Wut dat?

Value Added Tax-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax

Gotcha.

Doesn't matter what wing I vote for, what nominee I vote for. At the end of the day you're just hiring a spokesman to give speeches and pass senseless lasws designed to keep us the working class slaves for the elite.

You want a true democracy where the peoples voices counts then quit hiring one man to make decisions that affect billions....the concept just sounds absurd to me. Our Govt. structure is so skewed it's unbelievable that people think they will start seeing change because I voted for "this guy" or "that guy"......I guess I'm just not a follower of the masses, I like to think for myself, live my life to my standards, not standards set forth in the interests of corporate America.

Have you even looked at what Bernie Sanders stands for? I've heard him take all calls about any issue for years on the Thom Hartman show. He never ducks an issue. He is also consistent over time with his views. The only calls he wouldn't take were from drunks and one other reasonable caveat which I don't remember. It was a trivial and necessary reason. He stands for us the people on all issues...