He was being unamerican. Next time we might have to kill him

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17 Mar 2016, 6:14 pm

I would say the vast majority of liberals have jobs and pay taxes.

Same with conservatives.



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17 Mar 2016, 6:15 pm

Experimenter is a movie everyone should watch. It's particularly relevant right now.

To summarize, in what universe is it okay for a leader to use such phrases as "knock the hell out of him" when talking to large groups of people (blind obedient followers if you ask me). There is a quote in the movie about how even well-meaning people cannot resist the forces of a malevolent dictator. Someone remember the actual quote? I can't find it right now. Movie is about how most people lack the internal resources to defy an authority figure. Maybe someone can explain it better than I can. Obedience is not a virtue when it is used as an instrument of evil.



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17 Mar 2016, 6:27 pm

heavenlyabyss wrote:
Experimenter is a movie everyone should watch. It's particularly relevant right now.

To summarize, in what universe is it okay for a leader to use such phrases as "knock the hell out of him" when talking to large groups of people (blind obedient followers if you ask me). There is a quote in the movie about how even well-meaning people cannot resist the forces of a malevolent dictator. Someone remember the actual quote? I can't find it right now. Movie is about how most people lack the internal resources to defy an authority figure. Maybe someone can explain it better than I can. Obedience is not a virtue when it is used as an instrument of evil.


Trump just loves to say crap and then apologize and use the "I was kidding" or "it was taken out of context" card to sweep it away.

Trump said on the tv show "The View" he would date his daughter if they werent related. That is so sick and that's something you shouldn't joke about.. ever.

I'm sure all people have stuff they wish they hadnt said. However there is plenty of other stuff against Trump to show he has no right to be president. Add up all the crap he has said and done, there's more than enough out there to dispel the ignorant followers that think he can "fix" things in USA.



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17 Mar 2016, 6:50 pm

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I'll be for Trump any day without blinking an eye or my faith.


Case in point.


Other than the fact that that cute obama quote was reported by one and only one person who also happens to be a super gun man (who also happened to write two anti-obama books) and has zero verifiable proof, the fact that someone may say "i personally don't think people should have guns" does not equate to "i'm going to disarm a country so i can subjugate and eliminate citizens as i wish". And aside from the fact that i dare you to produce verifiable proof of that hitler quote - other than a meme, you're eternally proving the aforementioned point that some people have said pretty nasty things about obama and yet not been beaten for doing so.



You dare me? I owe you nothing. I've already said I'm done producing any proof since the Left never does. I'm going to do the same thing your side has been doing all along - spout off whatever infuriating crap is on the top of my head whether it's true or not.

I see your Asswipe getting compared to Hitler sure got a rise out of you. :mrgreen: Don't feel too bad because I've had a lot worse, like your side saying that I am Hitler - so get off your freaking high horse.


Apparently, being asked to prove anything you say is a difficult subject. Interesting.

And you can call obama hitler all day long if you want. You can call him asswipe too. Unlike what jacoby argued, i don't find it inciting violence and have no interest in beating you for it. I really don't care. If anything, to me, constant references like 'asswipe' just say -this person is not someone i'll ever be able to have any version of a reasonable, rational discussion with on this topic. Unfortunate, but oh well.

Btw - He's not 'my' obama nor is it 'my' left - terms you seem to regularly spit with venom. All of you, the enemy.
Though clearly it is for some, the world isn't that black and white. However, that too you can carry on with and i care not; it only says something about the author and (lack of) potential discussions.


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17 Mar 2016, 6:55 pm

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You know it wasn't even that long ago when Trump said Hillary would make a great president. There is a lot of audio of him praising Hillary. But now that he's running he suddenly decided she is actually "evil".

They look pretty thick in this photo.
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Under oath for the trump u s**t, it came out that he previously (before running) said hillary would be a great president.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:13 pm

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I don't think anyone is saying that trump 'is' Hitler, just some of what he expresses sound a bit Hitler like...which well it does. The guy is known for getting up on his podium, passionately yelling rhetoric and scapegoating various demographics as 'the problem' quite similar to what trump does. I don't think trump would try and re-invent the holocaust but he certainly has the unity through hate down. One does not have to do all the bad that Hitler did to have similarities to the man...there was a time before Hitler was a dictator and before he accomplished all his evil so to me its important to be wary of candidates for president who shares traits with him.


You nailed it. Hitler wasn't "hitler" before he became "hitler". And it didn't happen overnight. He was just a goofy looking guy that was a powerfully persuasive speaker focused on hateful rhetoric against select groups of people (e.g. muslims..i mean jews), and had droves of followers; and in the beginning, dissenters at his speeches were assaulted.

It is not trump is hitler. Nor is " hitler" a finite example in this reference - saying that trump Will act identical to him..create concentration camps and kill the jews. It is that he, based on his words, actions, and followers, is very reminiscent of these prior leaders and many warning signs are blaring in that regard.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:19 pm

one way or another, those FEMA camps will be used for something.



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17 Mar 2016, 10:09 pm

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Maybe trump really isn't the racist he implies that he is; maybe it's just a matter of performance art on his part. But Trump has unleashed something ugly here. He's made it permissible to voice the ugliest thoughts people have concerning non-white citizens, and to back it up with violence, especially since more and more of the ranks of his supporters are being filled with known white supremacists. It's the same with Palin's supporters sniping about how Obama wasn't a real American, which was code for something other than white, which spawned the birther movement, and the crap that Obama is a secret Muslim. What Trump has unleashed may just prove to be far worse, even if he loses.


source?

also who cares who they support?

How is it more uglier than say black lives matter extremists or these college marxist? It's nonsense. What violence? What violence that even compares? Seriously a 78 year old took a swing a at someone trying to shut down an event? Are Trump supporters being confrontational? It's just nonsense. What are these ugliest thoughts? Like clips of Trump saying whatever means nothing, I do not care about what he has says in response to his this organized campaign against him. Not everybody has protesters, Trump has dozens of people that sit and wait in the crowd just to leap up and to derail and essentially shut down the event from happening.


Well, it does matter who racists support. I'm sure there had originally been some decent people in the Nazi party, such as the hero of Nanking, John Raabe, or those who later joined the Stauffenberg bomb plot, but extremist bigots also were attracted to the party, and became it's face. One young African American lady who was ejected from a Trump rally (without having done a thing) was violently shoved by a man later identified as a known white supremacist (reported by CNN and Yahoo News). More recently, one Trump supporter told a reporter to go back to Auschwitz (as seen on CNN) - and I challenge you to explain why a Non-Nazi, non-racist would say such a thing. At one red state locale, a poll was taken in which twenty percent of his supporters there thought that ending slavery was a bad thing. Too many of these people are being drawn into the Trump cause, because of his call to deport illegals (which they see as code for Latinos in general), his plans to stop all Muslim immigration, as well as his talk about how most white murder victims are killed by blacks (no they're not), white supremacists find message resonating with them, and the believe he is one of them.
As for student "Marxists," or black lives matter "radicals" - just who have they lynched? What acts of terror have they committed, rather than interrupting political rallies, or stopping traffic? The people showing up at Trump rallies either themselves have long personal histories of violence, or belong to organizations that do.

completely false


No, no it isn't.


Yes, it is. I'll do like your side has been doing - "you got proof?" Otherwise, it's just a statement off the top of your head. :roll: In fact, most of the people on Trump's side have jobs and pay taxes. Can you say that about your side?


I sited stuff I saw on CNN, and read on Yahoo News. I am not going to make sh*t up. Just why do you think David Duke was endorsing Trump? Because Trump is viewed as the racist messiah.


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17 Mar 2016, 10:13 pm

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I don't think anyone is saying that trump 'is' Hitler, just some of what he expresses sound a bit Hitler like...which well it does. The guy is known for getting up on his podium, passionately yelling rhetoric and scapegoating various demographics as 'the problem' quite similar to what trump does. I don't think trump would try and re-invent the holocaust but he certainly has the unity through hate down. One does not have to do all the bad that Hitler did to have similarities to the man...there was a time before Hitler was a dictator and before he accomplished all his evil so to me its important to be wary of candidates for president who shares traits with him.


You nailed it. Hitler wasn't "hitler" before he became "hitler". And it didn't happen overnight. He was just a goofy looking guy that was a powerfully persuasive speaker focused on hateful rhetoric against select groups of people (e.g. muslims..i mean jews), and had droves of followers; and in the beginning, dissenters at his speeches were assaulted.

It is not trump is hitler. Nor is " hitler" a finite example in this reference - saying that trump Will act identical to him..create concentration camps and kill the jews. It is that he, based on his words, actions, and followers, is very reminiscent of these prior leaders and many warning signs are blaring in that regard.


Yes, Hitler was a persuasive speaker. He also had a micropenis. As Trump has to brag about how well endowed he is, I have to think his equipment is on the small size, too.


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17 Mar 2016, 10:18 pm

it is unimportant if his toot-toot is 3 sizes too small, what matters is if his heart is 3 sizes too small.



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17 Mar 2016, 10:31 pm

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it is unimportant if his toot-toot is 3 sizes too small, what matters is if his heart is 3 sizes too small.


I agree, but I have to think Hitler's psychosis wouldn't have been what it was without feelings of shame and inferiority due to his penis size. Maybe it's the same with Trump.


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17 Mar 2016, 10:36 pm

kinda ironic that a big dik could have a little dik :scratch:



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17 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm

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kinda ironic that a big dik could have a little dik :scratch:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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18 Mar 2016, 12:58 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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Maybe trump really isn't the racist he implies that he is; maybe it's just a matter of performance art on his part. But Trump has unleashed something ugly here. He's made it permissible to voice the ugliest thoughts people have concerning non-white citizens, and to back it up with violence, especially since more and more of the ranks of his supporters are being filled with known white supremacists. It's the same with Palin's supporters sniping about how Obama wasn't a real American, which was code for something other than white, which spawned the birther movement, and the crap that Obama is a secret Muslim. What Trump has unleashed may just prove to be far worse, even if he loses.


source?

also who cares who they support?

How is it more uglier than say black lives matter extremists or these college marxist? It's nonsense. What violence? What violence that even compares? Seriously a 78 year old took a swing a at someone trying to shut down an event? Are Trump supporters being confrontational? It's just nonsense. What are these ugliest thoughts? Like clips of Trump saying whatever means nothing, I do not care about what he has says in response to his this organized campaign against him. Not everybody has protesters, Trump has dozens of people that sit and wait in the crowd just to leap up and to derail and essentially shut down the event from happening.


Well, it does matter who racists support. I'm sure there had originally been some decent people in the Nazi party, such as the hero of Nanking, John Raabe, or those who later joined the Stauffenberg bomb plot, but extremist bigots also were attracted to the party, and became it's face. One young African American lady who was ejected from a Trump rally (without having done a thing) was violently shoved by a man later identified as a known white supremacist (reported by CNN and Yahoo News). More recently, one Trump supporter told a reporter to go back to Auschwitz (as seen on CNN) - and I challenge you to explain why a Non-Nazi, non-racist would say such a thing. At one red state locale, a poll was taken in which twenty percent of his supporters there thought that ending slavery was a bad thing. Too many of these people are being drawn into the Trump cause, because of his call to deport illegals (which they see as code for Latinos in general), his plans to stop all Muslim immigration, as well as his talk about how most white murder victims are killed by blacks (no they're not), white supremacists find message resonating with them, and the believe he is one of them.
As for student "Marxists," or black lives matter "radicals" - just who have they lynched? What acts of terror have they committed, rather than interrupting political rallies, or stopping traffic? The people showing up at Trump rallies either themselves have long personal histories of violence, or belong to organizations that do.

completely false


No, no it isn't.


Yes, it is. I'll do like your side has been doing - "you got proof?" Otherwise, it's just a statement off the top of your head. :roll: In fact, most of the people on Trump's side have jobs and pay taxes. Can you say that about your side?


I cannot find any statistics that suggest most people on trumps side have jobs and pay taxes, to be fair I also cannot find statistics on how many on the left have jobs and pay taxes so at this point the claim from either side is hearsay.

I wonder though if most people on trumps side do have jobs why do they think illegal immigrants are 'taking' all of the jobs? T


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18 Mar 2016, 1:29 pm

Saying that Trump's supporters disproportionately made up people with histories of violence or members to groups with histories of violence is totally false and out who's ever ass that came from.



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18 Mar 2016, 1:33 pm

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Saying that Trump's supporters disproportionately made up people with histories of violence or members to groups with histories of violence is totally false and out who's ever ass that came from.


At least as to my knowledge there aren't statistics to back that claim up...can't say if it's completely false or not as I haven't seen a study/statistics done on it but it certainly cannot be passed off as a fact.


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