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23 May 2016, 5:57 pm

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And, the only people who I know that need telephones, cellular phones, tablets and computers ("freedom of speech, or of the press") are legitimated news reporters who have had their criminal histories reviewed by the federal government and their intended use of the First Amendment approved in advance under law and regulation.

Sooo, if the constitutionally protected natural right to keep and bear arms is compromised, should we "spread the wealth around" and prohibit all the other freedoms ... like the right to purchase, own and use a cellular telephone?

So to you walking in the city knowing anyone at any minute might pull out a cellphone and send a text message is the same as that anyone at any minute might pull out a gun and shoot you...?

Ever heard of "calling in a threat" or "hacking" or how cell phones are used to set off IEDs?


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23 May 2016, 6:24 pm

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What is this just with some Americans and their love for guns all anyway? The only people who I know that have and need guns are policemen.

Evidently, there is an epidemic of rabid skunks out there.


Where, in the US, really? 8O And people are seriously left to take care of an epidemic with rabies all on their own, privately?

The rabies outbreak was a few years back.If you live in a rural area no one is going to deal with it but you.It would take the cops or game warden a half hour to get here.By that time it could have wandered off and bit another animal.No animal control here.In the larger towns that might be an option.
http://www.waff.com/story/22855519/arka ... abies-case


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23 May 2016, 6:26 pm

Right, so naturally, she needs the right to own a .50 cal rifle or AR-15.

For skunks.



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23 May 2016, 6:41 pm

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Right, so naturally, she needs the right to own a .50 cal rifle or AR-15.

For skunks.

What do you have a giant modern stuff? Go live with the Amish.

Simiauto technology has been around since the bill of rights was invented, what the f**k is wrong with people wanting a more comfortable gun, or a gun that doesn't burn their hands, or a gun that can adjust its stock so women can use it.
Oh but it looks scary boo f*****g who. Black people look scary to a lot of whit rich people can they ban them from certain areas?

Why can people have sports cars? Why can non farmers have trucks, why can people build rockets, why can people do anything. Why's it any of your f*****g problem.

Go learn about stuff you find scary so you won't be ignorant about them and then you wond find it scary. The same guns with wood stocks are fine but black guns are bad. Polymer and plastic are bad now? f*****g gosh, you people are so ignorant and annoying. I find lots of things scary I don't push to ban them.

If I did all sports world be banned.



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23 May 2016, 6:57 pm

You actually don't have a right to a truck or a sports car. Why is my problem? Because guns f*****g kill people. I don't want to live in the Wild West, where, by the way, guns were often prohibited in town.



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23 May 2016, 7:00 pm

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Right, so naturally, she needs the right to own a .50 cal rifle or AR-15.

For skunks.

Don't own either.
Sometimes black bears are in the yard.The old geezer up the road had one get in his house when he went to town.It went right thru the screen door and ate a whole pan of cornbread.Then it carried the can of lard out in the yard,squeezed all the lard out of it and chewed up the can.Not the first time a bear has gotten into a residence.
We had a wolf hybrid try and carry one of our Saanen dairy goats off,my ex dealt with that problem.Then a coyote with severe mange,it looked like it just climbed out of a sarcophagus.You can google pics of what they look like.
Feral dog attacked the daschunds,feral dog tried to drag off turkey Gobbler(Major Tom),possums eating the chickens,etc....get the point? The only people here that don't have guns are some of the relgious groups.Like the Endtime Handmaidens of the Lord.You can't bring guns onto their property if you work for them.Even the hippies have guns,just not very good ones.


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23 May 2016, 7:15 pm

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You actually don't have a right to a truck or a sports car. Why is my problem? Because guns f*****g kill people. I don't want to live in the Wild West, where, by the way, guns were often prohibited in town.

So do trucks. f**k a truck killed 4 kids all at once and that was on accident.

Sports car speed they go way over the speed limit so why let people have them.

Knifes, axes, trucks, bats etc all kill people why let anyone have the,. No one should be allowed to have anything unless their job requires it. Want a bat become a baseball player.

Omg look around half the people own guns, everyone around you carries a gun, is it the f*****g wild Westminster f**k even the west wasn't the Wild West. People in mass have had guns for hundreds of years and it's never been mass violence like your side says. Fact crime went down in states where concealed carry were made legal not up.

The fact your still here and not dead shows guns don't equal violence. If every gun owner was so violent as people say and killed 20 people each there'd be no one left alive. Duck if they just killed one other person each there'd be no one. This Wild West your crazy fanatical side makes up never existed and never will exist, but simply saying , Mia crazy a**hole who wants to take people's rights away for no other reason then I don't like guns won't sell with the populace so you. Make up scare tactics and lies to trick people into giving their freedom away. You make up words the. The. Those don't work you make up new ones. Your side is truly deeply evil.



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23 May 2016, 7:19 pm

Misslizard wrote:
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Right, so naturally, she needs the right to own a .50 cal rifle or AR-15.

For skunks.

Don't own either.
Sometimes black bears are in the yard.The old geezer up the road had one get in his house when he went to town.It went right thru the screen door and ate a whole pan of cornbread.Then it carried the can of lard out in the yard,squeezed all the lard out of it and chewed up the can.Not the first time a bear has gotten into a residence.
We had a wolf hybrid try and carry one of our Saanen dairy goats off,my ex dealt with that problem.Then a coyote with severe mange,it looked like it just climbed out of a sarcophagus.You can google pics of what they look like.
Feral dog attacked the daschunds,feral dog tried to drag off turkey Gobbler(Major Tom),possums eating the chickens,etc....get the point? The only people here that don't have guns are some of the relgious groups.Like the Endtime Handmaidens of the Lord.You can't bring guns onto their property if you work for them.Even the hippies have guns,just not very good ones.



He doesn't give a s**t. He's so crazy it's like talking to Isis. And he won't even put up, he'll send some other sap to take people's guns, anti gun people are cowards and liars. They'll no different then the kkk or Nazis, they'll hate is so diluted and false but they'll never see that. Fanatics never do. And everyone does has to suffer for their blind obedience to their false cause. I'm so sick of it, gun owners are the only group whose civil rights are ok to attack. I hope one day it'll be illegal just like it is to do so to other groups.



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23 May 2016, 7:20 pm

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You actually don't have a right to a truck or a sports car....

Yet again, not quite ... by a long shot. The Ninth Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America provides that "[t]he enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." In other words, the people retain all rights about all matters unless the Constitution prohibits them specifically. Furthermore, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution provides that "[t]he powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." In other words, the authority to do anything lawful resides with the states or, failing a state prohibits it, the people unless the Constitution prohibits them specifically. Moreover, the Privileges and Immunities Clause (Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1) prohibits any state from treating citizens of other states in a discriminatory manner. The right of interstate travel may plausibly be inferred from the clause. This protection comes to us from the Magna Carta of 1215 that provided the right to travel.


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23 May 2016, 7:23 pm

He's ruined my thread :cry:



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23 May 2016, 7:28 pm

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He's ruined my thread :cry:

I don't see how. The goal posts keep moving. It is difficult to help or hinder an idea with so many distractions.

I have completely enjoyed this topic. And, I support your opinion wholeheartedly, sly279!


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23 May 2016, 7:41 pm

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He's ruined my thread :cry:

I don't see how. The goal posts keep moving. It is difficult to help or hinder an idea with so many distractions.

I have completely enjoyed this topic. And, I support your opinion wholeheartedly, sly279!


Point was to get people to go comment against it the illegal proposed rule change. not to debate the 2nd amendment.



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23 May 2016, 7:55 pm

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He's ruined my thread :cry:

I don't see how. The goal posts keep moving. It is difficult to help or hinder an idea with so many distractions.

I have completely enjoyed this topic. And, I support your opinion wholeheartedly, sly279!

Point was to get people to go comment against it the illegal proposed rule change. not to debate the 2nd amendment.

We all started out doing so, until the topic was derailed over and over. I apologize that I apparently helped fuel the distractions. Still, I believe that the SSA regulation is doomed if only because too much water is under the U.S. Supreme Court bridge regarding the Second Amendment. There is, as a result, too little room to accomplish the regulation lawfully. So, I believe that you did get what you intended: to inform us about yet another pending battle. The good news is that our battle will be short and successful.


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23 May 2016, 8:14 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
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You actually don't have a right to a truck or a sports car....

Yet again, not quite ... by a long shot. The Ninth Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America provides that "[t]he enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." In other words, the people retain all rights about all matters unless the Constitution prohibits them specifically. Furthermore, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution provides that "[t]he powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." In other words, the authority to do anything lawful resides with the states or, failing a state prohibits it, the people unless the Constitution prohibits them specifically. Moreover, the Privileges and Immunities Clause (Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1) prohibits any state from treating citizens of other states in a discriminatory manner. The right of interstate travel may plausibly be inferred from the clause. This protection comes to us from the Magna Carta of 1215 that provided the right to travel.

But not in a car, which could be outlawed by an act of Congress.



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23 May 2016, 11:10 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
sly279 wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
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He's ruined my thread :cry:

I don't see how. The goal posts keep moving. It is difficult to help or hinder an idea with so many distractions.

I have completely enjoyed this topic. And, I support your opinion wholeheartedly, sly279!

Point was to get people to go comment against it the illegal proposed rule change. not to debate the 2nd amendment.

We all started out doing so, until the topic was derailed over and over. I apologize that I apparently helped fuel the distractions. Still, I believe that the SSA regulation is doomed if only because too much water is under the U.S. Supreme Court bridge regarding the Second Amendment. There is, as a result, too little room to accomplish the regulation lawfully. So, I believe that you did get what you intended: to inform us about yet another pending battle. The good news is that our battle will be short and successful.


Obama doesn't care about laws, their proposal even basically states what they're doing is illegal but what you going do to stop us.
It's only got 390 comments. The f*****g ban on 5.56 green tip got thousands and thousands of comments and just barely got stopped. No one cares about us. Non of the big gun groups or you tubers are talking about it. They were all over the 5.56 thing.

Aspe been the one derailing it over and over trying to push his agenda not you.



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24 May 2016, 1:16 am

Seriously, ignore the troll, that's what he is at this point.


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