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24 Jan 2017, 1:29 am

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I think Bill has the drinking covered already.


Maybe you'd like to get under that tree with them, and make it a (ahem) threesome.


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24 Jan 2017, 1:43 am

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And I say NT's need to stop trespassing where they don't belong - Wrong Planet.

That's very rude. I'm high functioning and I voted for him. I'm on SSI, but I don't want to stay that way. I don't like the idea of the government playing the role of my parent. By the way, welfare is a form of government slavery. Destroy the economy and make it so more and more people rely on The State. It is a form of economic slavery.


You do know you personally can't survive without SSI, don't you?

That changes soon, as I will no longer need it. I didn't say it wasn't needed. It IS needed, but only because of economic situations. If we had a strong economy and a strong dollar, less and less people would need it; including myself. Think about how much cheaper housing used to be, how much easier it was to own a car, ect. We USED to have a strong currency and we no longer do. This is done by design.

You think it was politicians who conspired to do this?



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24 Jan 2017, 1:57 am

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They like to roleplay as 60s radicals, they like the aesthetics of it but aren't exactly deep thinkers. The selfie generation. All about them, all about their identity, all the time. Left wing media and academia is brainwashing these kids, Cultural Marxism is a very real thing and is essentially what SJWs believe in.

How many of these women would of been out there protesting serial rapist Bill Clinton returning to the white house? How many of them spoke up at all about Clinton's conduct towards women? I don't think too many.

And you people constantly whine about the left being insulting. :roll: I tend to disregard anything said by someone who uses the idiotic term "cultural marxist".



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24 Jan 2017, 2:11 am

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I tend to disregard anything said by someone who uses the idiotic term "cultural marxist".


Yeah, they're really more Maoist. :lol:


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24 Jan 2017, 2:13 am

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I can understand not not liking Trump. But mass hysteria is another thing. Like every single new policy or bill submitted, being compared to Hitler and it's going to be the end of the world and so on. Folks need to take it down a few pegs.


I seem to recall conservatives flying off the handle about Obama, many even accusing him of being the Antichrist.


You mean he isn't? :P But seriously, I have some recall of 2009. Were people really as hyped up then as they are now? I asked my dad and he said to a degree, but nothing close to as bad as this election.

Obama wasn't nearly as extreme a character as Trump. I mean, the guy is a classic narcissist, possible sociopath. I still don't get why conservatives like him. I don't get why autistic people would vote for a guy who probably was a bully as a child.



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24 Jan 2017, 2:17 am

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It was just on Fox that President Trump is coming out this week with the "Patient Freedom Act" after he chucks Obama Care! This is getting exciting! :mrgreen:


Well, if it actually does cover everyone, then I'll give him my full support, at least on this matter.

Don't hold your breath. It will probably be the "freedom to die if you can't afford treatment" act.



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24 Jan 2017, 2:21 am

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I can understand not not liking Trump. But mass hysteria is another thing. Like every single new policy or bill submitted, being compared to Hitler and it's going to be the end of the world and so on. Folks need to take it down a few pegs.


I seem to recall conservatives flying off the handle about Obama, many even accusing him of being the Antichrist.


You mean he isn't? :P But seriously, I have some recall of 2009. Were people really as hyped up then as they are now? I asked my dad and he said to a degree, but nothing close to as bad as this election.

Obama wasn't nearly as extreme a character as Trump. I mean, the guy is a classic narcissist, possible sociopath. I still don't get why conservatives like him. I don't get why autistic people would vote for a guy who probably was a bully as a child.


Bill Maher, I think, got it right when he called Trump completely Id, being completely impulsive, narcissistic, and unable to control his need for vendetta against enemies.


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24 Jan 2017, 2:22 am

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I still don't get why conservatives like him.


I'm not sure that they do, beyond signing their legislation and riling up the liberals, of course. One of the great ironies of this election has been that there has long been this assumption that the GOP base wanted ideological purity, someone who wouldn't sell out to the DC culture, etc, but when the base seriously decided to buck their party, they go for the least pure "Republican" on the ticket, which is still hard to comprehend. I really put it down to the desire for a genuine candidate, and say what you will about Trump, filtered he is not, coupled with sticking it to the liberals in the most over the top manner possible after years of jibes and contempt. I heard it put that Trump was "the extended middle finger of the American Right hand", and I can't really disagree with that assessment.


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24 Jan 2017, 2:25 am

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It was just on Fox that President Trump is coming out this week with the "Patient Freedom Act" after he chucks Obama Care! This is getting exciting! :mrgreen:


Well, if it actually does cover everyone, then I'll give him my full support, at least on this matter.

Don't hold your breath. It will probably be the "freedom to die if you can't afford treatment" act.


That, I fear, is more likely.


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24 Jan 2017, 2:32 am

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I still don't get why conservatives like him.


I'm not sure that they do, beyond signing their legislation and riling up the liberals, of course. One of the great ironies of this election has been that there has long been this assumption that the GOP base wanted ideological purity, someone who wouldn't sell out to the DC culture, etc, but when the base seriously decided to buck their party, they go for the least pure "Republican" on the ticket, which is still hard to comprehend. I really put it down to the desire for a genuine candidate, and say what you will about Trump, filtered he is not, coupled with sticking it to the liberals in the most over the top manner possible after years of jibes and contempt. I heard it put that Trump was "the extended middle finger of the American Right hand", and I can't really disagree with that assessment.


More likely, I think, they are just happy that someone with the Republican brand is in the White House after eight years. Remember, a great number of Republicans had been part of the "never Trump" faction, including Cruz, Haley, Romney, and loads of others. But all of these have since jumped onboard the Trump bandwagon, some even expecting jobs in his administration, such as Nikki Haley. Just having a Republican as President "Trumps" ideology after losing to the Democrats twice.


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24 Jan 2017, 2:38 am

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More likely, I think, they are just happy that someone with the Republican brand is in the White House after eight years.


Oh, I get that, what I don't get is why him? Of all the candidates, he was the most left field and the biggest risk, so hunger for victory alone doesn't quite explain it.


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24 Jan 2017, 2:41 am

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More likely, I think, they are just happy that someone with the Republican brand is in the White House after eight years.


Oh, I get that, what I don't get is why him? Of all the candidates, he was the most left field and the biggest risk, so hunger for victory alone doesn't quite explain it.


Because after the primaries, it was either him or Clinton, so they went with him. I'm sure they would have deep down preferred someone else at the time.


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24 Jan 2017, 3:08 am

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I still don't get why conservatives like him.


I'm not sure that they do, beyond signing their legislation and riling up the liberals, of course. One of the great ironies of this election has been that there has long been this assumption that the GOP base wanted ideological purity, someone who wouldn't sell out to the DC culture, etc, but when the base seriously decided to buck their party, they go for the least pure "Republican" on the ticket, which is still hard to comprehend. I really put it down to the desire for a genuine candidate, and say what you will about Trump, filtered he is not, coupled with sticking it to the liberals in the most over the top manner possible after years of jibes and contempt. I heard it put that Trump was "the extended middle finger of the American Right hand", and I can't really disagree with that assessment.


It's absurd to me that not having any filter or decorum is all it takes to be considered more "genuine" and "honest" than the average politician. It also seems absurd and immature to vote for someone just to spite people you don't like. They really have no more pressing concerns?



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24 Jan 2017, 3:28 am

It actually reminds me of what George Carlin said about Bill Clinton. "At least he's honest about being full of s**t". Seems to fit The Donald as well as Billie Boy.



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It's absurd to me that not having any filter or decorum is all it takes to be considered more "genuine" and "honest" than the average politician.


Unfortunately, that's the system we have to live with. It's kinda funny, the idea of a politician speaking his mind is considered so far fetched that it's a genuine comedy movie trope, not something that real people running for office do. I remember when McCain ran the "straight talk express" thing back in 2000 and had some success with it, but for me, the real blueprint of the Trump campaign was Charlie Sheen at the height of his "so crazy it's kinda cool" phase, when he was cutting car adds making fun of the fact he was under house arrest and talking about how he wasn't quitting cocaine because it had been good to him.

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It also seems absurd and immature to vote for someone just to spite people you don't like. They really have no more pressing concerns?


Honestly, and I hate to use this word, but I think it's a privilege thing, that if you haven't been on the receiving end of the decades of liberal contempt that came to a head this year, you can't really understand how bad it's been. You just hear jokes about rednecks and Dumbfuckistan and know that they're not talking about you so don't pay them much attention, but when you know that they are talking about you and it's everywhere, spite moves a few notches up the priorities list.


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24 Jan 2017, 3:34 am

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I can understand not not liking Trump. But mass hysteria is another thing. Like every single new policy or bill submitted, being compared to Hitler and it's going to be the end of the world and so on. Folks need to take it down a few pegs.


I seem to recall conservatives flying off the handle about Obama, many even accusing him of being the Antichrist.


You mean he isn't? :P But seriously, I have some recall of 2009. Were people really as hyped up then as they are now? I asked my dad and he said to a degree, but nothing close to as bad as this election.

Obama wasn't nearly as extreme a character as Trump. I mean, the guy is a classic narcissist, possible sociopath. I still don't get why conservatives like him. I don't get why autistic people would vote for a guy who probably was a bully as a child.


Bill Maher, I think, got it right when he called Trump completely Id, being completely impulsive, narcissistic, and unable to control his need for vendetta against enemies.


Like Bill Maher isn't all of those things?! To be able to ID one is to know one - himself. Whatever.


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