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08 Aug 2007, 3:09 pm

yeah you jsut say the same thing-God this and God that-sin this and sin that
yuou never really answer just hide behind religion

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08 Aug 2007, 3:11 pm

Kilroy wrote:

What I am gathering from whats being said-is I'll have to not be bi to get into heaven, marry a woman,

You know, I doubt that it's as bad as it used
to be, but I remember when being gay was
reasonably acceptable, but being bi was simply
not. Almost no one accepted people being bi
at all.

Kinda miss those days, 'twas easier for me.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:11 pm

Yeah, I wanna know why it is somehow wrong to be gay. And if you can't logically justify it yourself, Ragtime, then why do you blindly follow something which makes no sense logically? If you can't answer the first, then at least answer the second.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:12 pm

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My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.

Come off it. That's your hormones talking.
You can't really tell me that you find human
females more appealing - artistically, than
cats. Humans, of all types, are funny-looking
apes.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:12 pm

Sedaka wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?

Women are better at sucking a penis than men are. Please don't ask me to go into the depths, as it were, of their silky mouths, and their natural subtle eroticism which so inflames us. Men suck more like they're playing professional sports, or working out, than like they're actually making sweet, sweet love to their partners.

And you would know this how exactly?

I've been sucked.

But only by my wife.

Exactly.
And, incidentally, why is it OK for you and your wife to engage in oral sex, but not me and my (non existent) girlfriend? After all, neither of these would result in any kids. So how does you and your wife being married somehow make it alright for you, but not me?

Sopho, why do you care what I think? You've already said, and shown, that you don't, so why waste my time?

Your real problem with me is that I esteem God above man.

people keep asking cause you never give answers to their questions.....

you never have logical reasoning beyone "cause the bible says so"

which is the whole point of these conversations...

As a Christian, my highest authority is God, and He speaks through Scripture. And, obviously, I use my own logic continually; if I had not, you all would have stopped talking to me by now and lost interest.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:12 pm

calandale wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

What I am gathering from whats being said-is I'll have to not be bi to get into heaven, marry a woman,

I think bi people get it harder in some ways. They get s**t from some gay people I've noticed, for not choosing which they are or some crap like that. Still, I wish I was bi instead lol.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:13 pm

Flagg wrote:

Somedays I wish I was a mod again, it was fun being part of the dictatorship once and a while......

This attitude is WHY you aren't.
Something which the current mods
need to be reminded of, now and then.

(not that they're being unreasonable,
AFAIK recently).

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08 Aug 2007, 3:15 pm

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Still, I wish I was bi instead lol.

You ain't the only one. Take it how you will.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:15 pm

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well, your logic seems to be flawed my friend, even some christians accept that the bible is not PERFECT considering the times it was written. Where is your logic there?

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08 Aug 2007, 3:18 pm

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Sedaka wrote:

b) just because im not gay doesnt mean i sin any less on the topic... because i think being gay is fine and perfectly moral... and actually no.... that still does concern the bible (god) or else he wouldnt care about things like coveting or the true nature of your heart......... and how do you know who i am? do you know that i havent been with women? ive stated on other threads id like to have many men and that i'd be fine if women were rpesent... so dont just think you can write me off and push me to the side cause you dont have the fortitude to deal with me head on....

What are you talking about?? There's a major theory-of-mind deficit here... I'm not considering you having "any less sin". Counting people's sins is beyond the purvue of the church. Only God can number sins, or judge someone to be more sinful than another. No one can judge hearts but God alone. If I have a little affection for you, that's my bias, not anything based on the truth.

why do you ALWAYS specifically edit out your portion of the quotes when they have the key elements to your questions you mirror back at me?

you avoided my line of conversation by saying the bible/god doesnt care about my philosophy on hmosexuality BECAUSE IM NOT ACTUALLY GAY

i countered and said that's not true...... what's not to see?

Look, these quotes get long, so I have to trim them down when quoting, unless you want me to leave the whole damn thing every time and let it snowball. I keep what I think are the relevant points, which may be different than what you think are the key points.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:19 pm

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yeah you jsut say the same thing-God this and God that-sin this and sin that
yuou never really answer just hide behind religion

It's so boring that you guys always come to this same conclusion. :roll:

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08 Aug 2007, 3:20 pm

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I think bi people get it harder in some ways. They get sh** from some gay people I've noticed, for not choosing which they are or some crap like that. Still, I wish I was bi instead lol.

yeah but by rag's logic... it's easer for them to get into heaven... cause they just have to deny a portion of their sexuality (like he does when he abstains from premarital sex ect)

completely gay people have to fabricate hormones and a whole new genetic makeup!

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08 Aug 2007, 3:21 pm

Sopho wrote:

Actually, you're wrong. I follow God's logic semi-blindly because I know it's superior to mine and to yours. You think you're top dog logic-wise, the brilliant Sopho, etc., but that doesn't make you correct.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:22 pm

Ragtime wrote:

Your real problem with me is that I esteem God above man.

Even if your'e wrong?

Yeah, you esteem God above man, believing you are doing right, when obviously and logically you are wrong.

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08 Aug 2007, 3:22 pm

well what do you say
its wrong to be gay?
I wont get into heaven because of it
I have to fallow God to be saved?
what is it

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08 Aug 2007, 3:23 pm

calandale wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.

Come off it. That's your hormones talking.
You can't really tell me that you find human
females more appealing - artistically, than
cats. Humans, of all types, are funny-looking
apes.

No, I find art in cats, birds, trees, flowers, even insects. Just proves my point even more.

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