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04 Jun 2008, 7:01 pm

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I know people who have been in arranged marriages. They are happy together. They don't divorce each other a year later like "love" marriages do. If my parents decided to arrange a marriage for me, why should I disagree with them? They're not forcing me to marry, they are only arranging a possibility. I have nothing against arranged marriages.

How many "love" marriages actually last? The homosexuals acquired their marriage privileges in Mass. only to have a couple divorce 7 months later. That is a great way to celebrate something they've been fighting for. They surely must have loved each other. I'm glad I didn't interfere with them.


It is better to have loved and lost that to have never loved at all...

But then again I'm the passionate type.


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04 Jun 2008, 7:23 pm

Yes, but this doesn't mean a person arranged to marry does not have the same passion as those who happen to have "fallen in love" after months or years.


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04 Jun 2008, 8:06 pm

Oh, well I have nothing against people choosing to marry people their parents have arranged them to.

Then only respect marriages that last, but don't make assumptions.

Why shouldn't the definition of marriage change? And what if it did? Would your opinion on homosexual marriage change?

I already said you wouldn't need to picture yourself as a woman, and I'm thinking your refusal to at least try to see this from the direct perspective and to connect yourself with someone who has very few differences from you might explain why you have such rigid opinions.

You shouldn't dictate your child's love life at all, unless they're practicing adultery or doing stuff with young children or something.

We shouldn't legalize polygamy or "approve" of anyone's relationships that don't have to do with us.
In my opinion, any two consenting adults should have the opportunity to get married. No one can know whether they're in love or not, and if they get divorced you have no right to judge other people getting married by them.



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04 Jun 2008, 10:09 pm

oscuria wrote:
Yes, but this doesn't mean a person arranged to marry does not have the same passion as those who happen to have "fallen in love" after months or years.


It doesn't matter. If you're in love, get married, if you're not, get divorced. May the couples be hetero or homosexual, it doesn't bother me, and to be honest I don't even care. Just the fact that so many right-wingers get riled up over this is pretty laughable. You don't like gay marriage? Then don't have one! That's what I do and it's been working so far. :lol: :wink:


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04 Jun 2008, 10:15 pm

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More rights to gays and lesbians--but not marriage.

Jail time / Psychiatric help for the transgendered and transvestites

y no marriage? marraige means more than religion now. lawful sh*t. marraige is a nessecity for a long term partnership in MOST cases.



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04 Jun 2008, 10:20 pm

mankind has the inability to accept difference...



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05 Jun 2008, 4:28 pm

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marraige is a nessecity for a long term partnership in MOST cases

That's absolutely horrible and I really hope it's not true.

DiabloDave363 wrote:
mankind has the inability to accept difference...

I DON'T! Damn I always knew I wasn't human.



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06 Jun 2008, 7:51 am

sarolie wrote:
DiabloDave363 wrote:
mankind has the inability to accept difference...

I DON'T! Damn I always knew I wasn't human.


:lol:



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06 Jun 2008, 9:09 am

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Although I'm not an atheist or fundmentally religious, I really don't see anything wrong with gay marriage and I really see nothing that holy and virutious of marriage.

After many acceptions that have been taken into Christianity, why would being gay be frowned upon considering they made divorce possible and adultery forgiveable. I wonder what Jesus would think since he was known as a forgiving man. Religious or not, many of the scriptures were written by men aka witnesses to the holy testimony although as humans we all have our own version or like to add on a version to a story.

It just seems that in this society saints and sinners really frown upon people of a different sexual orientation. With a little common sense and not so much analytical ego-centricity, it's pretty obivious they were born this way as many people are born with differences. From opinion, I don't see what is wrong with two grown consenting adults who love eachother and aren't hurting anyone else. Maybe this statement comes off as blunt without all the details but I thought I'd add my input anyway.


For a Christian, most sins are forgiveable, including all forms of sexual indescretion. While it is true that the integrity of marriage as an institution and a holy sacrament is on the decline, there are still couples who uphold it. Don't make the mistake of thinking that adultery is a trifling matter which we can laugh about later. It isn't. To have the church forgive you is one thing. But God is the final arbiter of these matters. The decline of virtue and morality has done its best to mock things like marriage, family, and the home.

Since straight people are just as susceptible to sin as the LGBT folk, that's all the more reason to consider ourselves and each other on more equal footing. Anyone can be a decent, moral person, no matter their sexual orientation or background. I really believe that.

Is the traditional definition of marriage sacrosanct? I don't know that it is or is not. I don't know how I feel about the whole issue, but on the secular side of the equation, gays and lesbians deserve to have full civil and legal rights. That is only fair. On the religious side of things, some churches already recognize same-sex marriages. Other do not, and will not. And they should not be change this policy. Again, only fair.



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06 Jun 2008, 2:31 pm

just-me wrote:
sarolie wrote:
DiabloDave363 wrote:
mankind has the inability to accept difference...

I DON'T! Damn I always knew I wasn't human.


:lol:

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02 Jun 2010, 9:19 pm

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I now think all homosexuals should be forced
to marry.. people of the opposite sex

That'll lern em'


I now think all (bigoted) christians should be forced to marry... muslims

OR

all homophobes should be forced to marry... other homophobes of the same gender

That'll learn 'em


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03 Jun 2010, 6:19 am

Why should anybody be concerned with the people that strangers marry or go to bed with? There is not basis in reason for this concern. I can see the Yucchhh! factor at work, but that is emotion, not reason.

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03 Jun 2010, 4:48 pm

Frankly, given what I have been led to understand goes on between heterosexuals, I think we should be banning heterosexual marriage and sex. (I mean, seriously. Yuck!) [/sarcasm]


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