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Last edited by claire-333 on 30 Nov 2008, 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

So gulf war 1 setting groundwork for gulf war 2 is irrelevant? Gulf war 2 should have taken place IN 91 perhaps? Limited objectives and the abandonment of the Iraqi people in 91 dont lead to issues now? I could do this all night, but the point is that you are certainly not an authority capable of declaring any historical event "irrelevant". Hungary wasn't Soviet, then it was, then it wasn't again. Any historical event can be summarised, but that does not increase or decrease its relevance. And would you kindly stop casting aspersions against my knowledge and intelligence. The only reason I know about something is because I remember it? What sort of toss is that? I wasn't born for Suez or Hungary, but I know about them.

I shouldnt even bother getting into this. You're obviously taking your own tagline way too seriously.

Though its worth pointing out that there is evidence of a "Dead Parrot" sketch occurring during Roman times. Some comedy is timeless.

"Most" females? Jesus.. are you from the past? You have obviously never been on the business end of a bat wielded by a 7 stone female. It hurts, a lot, and can be as incapacitating as any blow by any male of any size. How small are the rooms in your house? Unless she lives in a cupboard she probably has more than enough room to pop someone in the face.

Greek, actually. And it was a dead slave in that sketch. The oldest known joke was a Babylonian fart joke whose humor was lost to me in translation. The oldest known example of British humor involved a double entendre concerning male anatomy.

Same joke, different time period. I was naming the sketch type according to.. ah f**k it. If you cant figure out what I was doing then I cant be bothered explaining it. Takes too long, and I'm wasting valuable key time typing the same explanation over and over again.

Because if you don't drop him with one swing he'll be more than a little miffed. You need to hit him very hard to incapacitate him, or you'll then be in a worse position than if you didn't have a bat and didn't hit him.



Yes, you would. Better still, get a gun, keep it away from the kids, and learn how to use it.

I don't know about you, but if I were hit with a bat, it would at least slow me down. In the time that an intruder is registering having been smacked with a bat, claire333 has plenty of time to aim another- harder- swing.

Yes, most females. I didn't take you as being some brainwashed feminist apologist... oh well.


I've quite a big house by UK standards, actually, Macbeth. Someone commented that my bathroom is as big as some peoples dining room. Even so, each room has four walls, a ceiling, and at least one door -- what a surprise, I bet you never guessed. And so, there are plenty of obstructions unless you invite your intruder to a convenient spot before taking a swing.

And if the intruder has a gun, and is quicker, then it's goodbye claire333. Even if he doesn't, the odds aren't with her.

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Last edited by claire-333 on 30 Nov 2008, 5:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

You know, things like that don't work the way they do on TV.

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Last edited by claire-333 on 30 Nov 2008, 5:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If you have the stomach for it and guns are ruled out, I'd recommend a short katana (wakizashi) over a baseball bat for home defense. It requires less swing space, less force to do damage, is much faster, and is far more likely to do serious, incapacitating injury on the first strike than a bat is. It can also be obtained relatively cheaply, since even a smoke shop special will do for this purpose, and can be painted flat black and thus made virtually invisible in the dark. It also has much more psychological impact than a bat does, since a determined attacker may conclude that he could shrug off a whack or two to get his hands on you, where as trying that against a sword might lose him an appendage. Also, the thin flat profile allows a short sword to be hidden almost anywhere, like between the mattress and the box spring of a bed, without being obvious to casual observation. This last point is important to people living in places such as England, where defending yourself and your property is frowned upon as somehow uncouth and possibly even illegal.

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Last edited by claire-333 on 30 Nov 2008, 5:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.

How about a Taser? Aren't those popular with women in the US?

Ughh, don't even get me started on these things. If you want to talk about something that gives you a false sense of security, Tasers ought to be the poster child. To start, they are just as expensive if not more so than many guns, you only get one shot, they don't work equally on all people, they are slow to reload and they are completely useless against multiple assailants. Like I pointed out earlier, the cops carry them in addition to their normal sidearm, for situations that don't call for lethal force but where some force is required. I don't like them at all for civilians, they are just as bulky as a handgun and have so many disadvantages to them that unless you are prepared to back one up with a firearm I simply wouldn't bother with one. Pepper spray I do approve of because of the way that it can be used to cover an escape (spray it over your shoulder as you run away) or render an area impassable, while also being light and compact enough to not be a burden to carry. The thing that really bothers me about almost all non lethal weapons is that given an angry or determined enough opponent, they almost all can be shrugged off by someone willing to disregard the pain, the Rodney King incident escalated when RK was Tased, and simply pulled out the darts and laughed at the cops. Even gunshot wounds aren't immune to this phenomenon, in the 80's a man in Florida shot 7 FBI agents, killing 2 of them, after suffering a lethal 9mm wound to the chest. However, the gun offers you the option of an immediately incapacitating CNS (central nervous system) shot, or a crippling shot to the the load bearing structure of the body, such as the knee or hip, that not even the toughest or angriest of people could continue to pose a threat after. That, after all, is the whole point of a defensive weapon, to render an opponent unable to continue to pose a threat, the means by which this is accomplished is academic so long as the result is certain.