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31 Dec 2008, 12:27 pm

No, not really. Take a look at Star Trek. They were sort of asexual weren't they. Don't those people represent human ideals?

Unlike this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWxn-81L4E[/youtube]



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31 Dec 2008, 12:47 pm

[quote]Did you know that dolphins are gay?/quote]

Did you think this through?

If dolphins were gay, they would not exist. The key to existing as a species is the act of procreation. I don't doubt that a few dolphins exhibit homosexual behaviours, nor am I saying that homosexuality is bad. Homosexuality serves the important purpose of curtailing excessive population growth in humans and other species.



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31 Dec 2008, 1:46 pm

Even though they form male/male bonds, they do have sex with females but it is for procreation. I stated that above.

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Male Bottlenose Dolphins often form lifelong pair-bonds with each other. Adolescent and younger males typically live in all-male groups in which homosexual activity is common; within these groups, a male begins to develop a strong bond with a particular partner (usually of the same age) with whom he will spend the rest of his life. The two Dolphins become constant companions, often traveling widely; although sexual activity probably declines as they get older, it may continue to be a regular feature of such partnerships. Paired males sometimes take turns guarding or remaining vigilant while their partner rests. They also defend their mates against predators such as sharks and protect them while they are healing from wounds inflicted during preclators' attacks. Sometimes three males form a tightly bonded trio. On the death of his partner, a male may spend a long time searching for a new male companion—usually unsuccessfully, since most other males in the community are already paired and will not break their bonds. If, however, he can find another "widower" whose male partner has died, the two may become a couple...

The lives of male Bottlenose Dolphins are characterized by extensive bisexuality, combined with periods of exclusive homosexuality. As adolescents and young males, they have regular homosexual interactions in all-male groups, sometimes alternating with heterosexual activity. From age 10 onward, most male Dolphins form pair-bonds with another male, and because they do not usually father calves until they are 20-25 years old, this can be an extended period—10-15 years—of principally same-sex interaction. Later, when they begin mating heterosexually, they still retain their primary male pair-bonds, and in some populations male pairs and trios cooperate in herding females or in interacting homosexually with Spotted Dolphins.

-Bruce Bagemihl


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31 Dec 2008, 1:57 pm

Magnus wrote:
Even though they form male/male bonds, they do have sex with females but it is for procreation. I stated that above.
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Male Bottlenose Dolphins often form lifelong pair-bonds with each other. Adolescent and younger males typically live in all-male groups in which homosexual activity is common; within these groups, a male begins to develop a strong bond with a particular partner (usually of the same age) with whom he will spend the rest of his life. ... ... -Bruce Bagemihl


That's really interesting. I had read about female homosexuality among chimpanzees but knew nothing about male homosexual habits among other animals. Thanks for the quote.

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31 Dec 2008, 2:07 pm

Too bad we can't ask the male/male bonded dolphins, "Are you two lovers or just friends?" :wink:

How do dolphins have gay sex anyway? I've seen lots of dolphin footage, but I've never noticed male dolphins' genitalia.



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31 Dec 2008, 4:17 pm

Magnus wrote:
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It assumes that the 'normal' state for men is better than the 'normal' state for women. Like it would be sexist to give men a pill specifically to make them have female-level sex drives.


Give me a pill to squash my sex drive. :lol: That will help me focus more.

Why would anyone want to be bothered with a high sex drive? Society would be better off if we were asexual. There would be more intellectuals and not so many competitive, frustrated people.



If we we became asexual, then in 100 years would be Extinct. :skull:



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31 Dec 2008, 4:23 pm

Haliphron wrote:
If we we became asexual, then in 100 years would be Extinct. :skull:

Doesn't seem to be a bad idea.


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31 Dec 2008, 5:09 pm

slowmutant asked:

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How do dolphins have gay sex anyway? I've seen lots of dolphin footage, but I've never noticed male dolphins' genitalia.


The guy in this video has a funny British accent: :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWx3hNSqslI[/youtube]