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12 Feb 2009, 3:18 pm

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Of course, the Romans did the deed but obviously it was arranged by someone higher up. Who was that?

There was no one higher-up than the Romans at that time and place. Who arranged the death of Jesus? Not the Mexicans.

Well that settles that. I thought religious people figured God was in control. Seems not. Outranked by the Romans.
Therefor it was the Romans who excused all human sins by crucifying Christ. I cannot follow the logic of that but neither have I been able to see it was logical for God to demand a human sacrifice to get humanity off the hook. Perhaps he felt frustrated by not actually going through with demanding Abraham sacrifice his son and finally felt complete by seeing to it that the Romans did Christ in.

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14 Feb 2009, 8:47 pm

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Jesus saving me because he died on the cross for ME.

How a man under reign of Tiberius could know anything about you (or me)? And so how he could die for you or me?

because it say's it in the bible and if you want to know any more answers - Why don't you read it? :rambo:

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Dont believe everything you read BellaDonna! :mrgreen:

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Why have some of the most expertised scientist become christian then?

"Become"? Some stayed on sentimental reason in the faith they were grown, but no one converted to Christianity. Within the scientific community you find that the vast majority consist of atheist or agnostics.

but the best of them. The most experienced scientist changed thier faith to Christianity.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... :roll:

You Totally made that up.

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14 Feb 2009, 9:41 pm

Are you a christian BDonna?

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20 Feb 2009, 11:12 pm

According to scripture no one killed Jesus as "He layed down His life as a randsome for many". So He chose to be a sacrifice to be the bridge between a holy God and unholy humans.

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21 Feb 2009, 2:58 am

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According to scripture no one killed Jesus as "He layed down His life as a randsome for many". So He chose to be a sacrifice to be the bridge between a holy God and unholy humans.

And then popped up in Heaven to enjoy in infinite life after death. Too bad we all can't sneak away like that.

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21 Feb 2009, 8:51 am

Sand wrote:

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According to scripture no one killed Jesus as "He layed down His life as a randsome for many". So He chose to be a sacrifice to be the bridge between a holy God and unholy humans.

And then popped up in Heaven to enjoy in infinite life after death. Too bad we all can't sneak away like that.

Are you jealous of Jesus?

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21 Feb 2009, 12:11 pm

slowmutant wrote:

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According to scripture no one killed Jesus as "He layed down His life as a randsome for many". So He chose to be a sacrifice to be the bridge between a holy God and unholy humans.

And then popped up in Heaven to enjoy in infinite life after death. Too bad we all can't sneak away like that.

Are you jealous of Jesus?

You seem to be asking me if I would like to be God. Actually, if I were to pick a fictitious character to be jealous of I would choose Peter Pan. Although I have a pilot's license I never got the kick out of flying that Peter Pan did. To be God means being a kind of super cop punishing evil and keeping an eye on people doing good. I was never much interested in police work.

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21 Feb 2009, 12:15 pm

Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

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21 Feb 2009, 12:35 pm

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Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

Since you seem so enamored of Jesus it seems you become Jesus by your recommended process. But, since I am not religious I do not favor kidding myself about reality. It won't work with me.

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21 Feb 2009, 1:26 pm

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Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

But be certain that the windows are well locked (at least if you live in a raised ground floor, the 1st floor or higher).

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21 Feb 2009, 1:29 pm

Sand wrote:

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Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

Since you seem so enamored of Jesus it seems you become Jesus by your recommended process. But, since I am not religious I do not favor kidding myself about reality. It won't work with me.

Enamoured of Jesus? Of course I am.

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21 Feb 2009, 1:30 pm

Dussel wrote:

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Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

But be certain that the windows are well locked (at least if you live in a raised ground floor, the 1st floor or higher).

It's not all that mind destroying. I tried LSD once and was amused by the visual distortions for a few hours but found the experience rather boring after a while. I was always aware of what was going on and there was no impulse to jump out of windows.

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21 Feb 2009, 1:40 pm

You're really into drugs, aren't you Sand?

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21 Feb 2009, 1:48 pm

Sand wrote:

Dussel wrote:

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Take some LSD and you can be Peter Pan for a while.

But be certain that the windows are well locked (at least if you live in a raised ground floor, the 1st floor or higher).

It depends - on the amount of the drug, of the contents of you stomach and the mental state you went into the trip.

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21 Feb 2009, 1:49 pm

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You're really into drugs, aren't you Sand?

Absolutely. I take a baby aspirin every day to prevent blood clots, I take Simvastatin for a cholesterol problem, and Nexium to hold down digestive acid. I drink at least one cup of coffee per day for caffeine and I take vitamins C,B,D and E. I have a really wild time sometimes and drink two cups of coffee. A regimen not for the weak minded but I manage quite well. Considering your comments, I would recommend a laxative to clear your mind.

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21 Feb 2009, 2:03 pm

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You're really into drugs, aren't you Sand?

I'm not really one to talk. I talk a lot of drugs myself, everyday. But it's never anytihng I have to buy from some shifty guy on the street.

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