leejosepho wrote:
AlSwearengen wrote:
supra_chiasma wrote:
“Gender, race and impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.” Two men can't reproduce,
So if a man is defined by his ability to be able to impregnate women and a woman's value is in her ability to have [children] ...
Rhetorical hypotheticals can all-too-easily just lead to more confusion.
Then this ought to spell it out more easily and people can definitively say where they are on the debate by asking themselves some very easy questions.
AlSwearengen wrote:
Now here is an interesting point.
Does a person choose their sexual identity anymore than the colour of their skin or their gender? No.
OK what is the homophobic bigot (ie ho·mo·pho·bi·a (hm-fb-)n. 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. 2. Behavior based on such a feeling.) thinking the homosexual person is going to do to rectify their sin?
Being gay is sinful and being gay is a sin. Effectively these elements of the faith belief that God has selected a people that will be punished for "being| (not choosing or following a course of acting that they could avoid.)
Is that fair, tolerant, loving , ethical, kind or good? Flies in the face of organised Christian faith doesn't it?
My questions to the Christians that hold such views and are in contempt of gay people
Are you a bigot (it is defined above)?
Does that make you any better than the intolerant sexists, racists or any other bigot or bigotry?
Why?
Why do you think that a loving tolerant moral God would allow for people to be born gay and thus damned at birth (Yes not go into the "they choose to be gay" - that is a cop out)?
Murderers, rapist, thieves and the like hurt others and society. Gays don't. Why invest with them the same or similar abject disapproval?
In the approach of calling it fair, if a fundamentalist Christian with negative views on gay people were to illustrate contempt then at what point is retaliation from those insulted parties, allowable? We ought not suggest that gay people ought to be defenseless against anti-gay rhetoric or not? (regardless of whether it is hidden under the cowardly veil of a stated belief, or not).
I am sure I would be amazed at the answers and get an insight.
As said these are pretty simple and easy questions. Ought not take too much for a person to back their position and why on the basis of these questions.