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24 Feb 2011, 7:17 pm

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Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is.


Oh please. Political boundaries are an illusion. I say people can live in any geographic location they damn well please. Plus many muslim people are not immigrants.


Many of our country are immigrants, especially in certain cities. Apparently in 2009, there was on average, one immigrant a minue coming to our country. I was in London today, it was scary. They can live where they damn well please if they can adapt to our culture.


Culture is not static.


Its more static in other countries than in ours. If you went to Pakistan or Iran, you'd see the kind of culture you'd expect to see. You wouldn't have trouble in the national city, finding residents who could speak the country's language. And you wouldn't see loads of British fish and chip shops and pubs along the high street.


I went to at least four very english pubs in Tunisia a few years ago. And a "chippy".

Also, what the f**k is wrong with foreign food that you resent it being sold on the high street?


A lot of tourists go to Tunisia, thats a very stupid example you've given there. Go to somewhere like Egypt, you'll find it very touristy in tourist areas, but drive out of that area, and you're at risk.

Lol, off you go again with your jumping of the gun extremism. I don't have a problem with foreign food being sold, are you having a joke? But when a large majority of fish and chip shops are run by Chinese people, its quite sad.


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24 Feb 2011, 7:25 pm

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One of the Muslims I know is a very nice young man who is an Army recruiter nearby.

This is the root of all misunderstanding. If one Muslim is nice that doesn't mean that their ideology is nice. Their ideology is violent and therefore a muslim is more likely to be violent than a person of any other community. This doesn't mean that every Muslim will be a terrorist and btw every muslim cannot be a terrorist since people are required to grow food, make weapons. Therefore, even considering a community whose sole purpose is militancy cannot have its every member as terrorists.


This should be macbeth's sig, to remind him.


Yes. So I never forget that this world is populated with people who lack understanding of the subjects they spout nonsense about, and who can't admit when they are wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Bunker mentality at its best.


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You've just given the perfect description of yourself




Read it and weep: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ktats.html

Even the MAIL carried this one. Turns out you were even more wrong than I first thought. How about that then, you f***ing hypocrite?


Now how on earth does this make me a hypocrite?? That I can't predict the future? :? I'm pleased with what I read. But you don't think this is gonna make the ECHR push harder now? They'll be saying that criminals should get legal aid more than likely.


I was showing you links like this all the way through your f*****g thread about prisoners and votes, proving again and again that prisoners aren't getting s**t, and you suggest that I can't admit when I'm wrong? f*****g hypocrisy in action. End of story.

Back to THIS thread then, now that that is sorted...

How is it possible that I could spend all day today in a major city with a large Muslim population, and not be struck down by extremists? I've seen a group of Muslim girls in the complete garb queuing up in Macdonalds. What are they up to, funding the very essence of the evil capitalist pigdogs? Some secret plan to turn it Muslim from the inside? A Muslim couple helped us get the pushchair off a train, us and our WASP kids with their blue eyes and western clothing. How "extremist" of them. Qubut Ut Allah! How about the lady in the Yashmak in Waterstones buying Classic He-Man birthday cards?

Few years ago, a man Persian as the day is long and a devout Muslim, used to be our regular taxi guy from the nightclub. Baz, he was called, and a nicer chap I never met. Good friend of mine now, never once tried to f*****g bomb me. I once met an Arab Muslim in Tunis, who married a Yorkshire girl, and wept openly on 9/11 in sorrow at the needless slaughter. What a monster!

For every website that cites "extremist text" in the Quran, there is another citing the opposite. For every twat with a burning poppy, there is another Punjabi Muslim veteran wearing one.

Adversely, I could list literally hundreds of white english types who turned out to be vicious violent bastards hell-bent on just kicking the f**k out of anyone in the name of what they had decided was english "culture". Even their own. Especially after our dips**t boss decided to book a right-wing punk band and left the rest of the staff to deal with the aftermath.

So no, I'm not buying in the slightest that Islam is the most violent, or that Muslims in general are violent or dangerous, or any of that other s**t.


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24 Feb 2011, 7:28 pm

murphycop wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
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Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is.


Oh please. Political boundaries are an illusion. I say people can live in any geographic location they damn well please. Plus many muslim people are not immigrants.


Many of our country are immigrants, especially in certain cities. Apparently in 2009, there was on average, one immigrant a minue coming to our country. I was in London today, it was scary. They can live where they damn well please if they can adapt to our culture.


Scary? Why was it scary? Oh no, there are "foreign people" in London? Ever walked through Brixton? Miles and miles of "coloured" people, far as they eye can see, and its about as friendly a place as I have ever been.

Define "Our Culture" please, as you understand it.


You're so predictable, its boring. I was waiting for a post like this, yawn. Are you joking about Brixton? http://brixton.london.myvillage.com/art ... in-brixton you'll have your wheels stolen while you're driving there. Its quite funny what a family member told me today, she was speaking to a black lady, a carer. She's lived here for 30 years, she said how her area in London isn't like it used to be, due to "all the Middle easterners".

Its scary when a mutual friend of mine was driving his lorry in London, and tried to get directions, but couldn't find a person who spoke English! I can't define our culture, we don't have one anymore.


Clearly you've never been to St Helens then. 98% White. Absolute s**thole full of unpleasant w*kers.

Define "Our culture" as it used to be then. Or explain how they can adapt to something we don't have anymore?


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24 Feb 2011, 7:31 pm

murphycop wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Subotai wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Subotai wrote:
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Its about time they adapt to our culture, or they know where the door is.


Oh please. Political boundaries are an illusion. I say people can live in any geographic location they damn well please. Plus many muslim people are not immigrants.


Many of our country are immigrants, especially in certain cities. Apparently in 2009, there was on average, one immigrant a minue coming to our country. I was in London today, it was scary. They can live where they damn well please if they can adapt to our culture.


Culture is not static.


Its more static in other countries than in ours. If you went to Pakistan or Iran, you'd see the kind of culture you'd expect to see. You wouldn't have trouble in the national city, finding residents who could speak the country's language. And you wouldn't see loads of British fish and chip shops and pubs along the high street.


I went to at least four very english pubs in Tunisia a few years ago. And a "chippy".

Also, what the f**k is wrong with foreign food that you resent it being sold on the high street?


A lot of tourists go to Tunisia, thats a very stupid example you've given there. Go to somewhere like Egypt, you'll find it very touristy in tourist areas, but drive out of that area, and you're at risk.

Lol, off you go again with your jumping of the gun extremism. I don't have a problem with foreign food being sold, are you having a joke? But when a large majority of fish and chip shops are run by Chinese people, its quite sad.


Why is it sad? Is there some secret "white" way of making fish and chips that they don't know? Does it matter one iota what colour the person making your chippy is? If so, why?


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25 Feb 2011, 12:35 am

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Muslims are not "more likely to be violent than a person of any other community". I hope this statement is just bad phraseology, but I suspect that you actually do think this to be the case.

No, I mean what it is.
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It also seems a bit daft how you describe a Muslim community as if it consists of "terrorists" and their support network and that's it.

And it would seem that Muslim ideology is as open to interpretation as any other ideology, such that the violence is apparently completely optional.

Read history of Islam, a) In Mohammed's period b)After Muhammed till wahhab's revival c)After Wahhabi's revival, i.e. modern.


Clearly then you lack experience of other types of community if you feel you can make such ridiculous statements.
Christianity has been easily as violent, and for longer. Judaism too. But STILL you fools are intent on dragging "violence" and extremism into this when at no point has there been even the slightest threat of such in the OP.

The intense depth of your ignorance astounds me: That you both still insist on making his about extremism when its simply about religious parents making a similar request to religious parents all over the world, in all forms of religion. Nothing more. Nothing unreasonable or violent or demanding. Just the same request as Christian/Jewish/Mormon/etc parents make all the time. Makes me sick that such idiocy exists.


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25 Feb 2011, 3:55 am

daspie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
daspie wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Muslims are not "more likely to be violent than a person of any other community". I hope this statement is just bad phraseology, but I suspect that you actually do think this to be the case.

No, I mean what it is.
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It also seems a bit daft how you describe a Muslim community as if it consists of "terrorists" and their support network and that's it.

And it would seem that Muslim ideology is as open to interpretation as any other ideology, such that the violence is apparently completely optional.

Read history of Islam, a) In Mohammed's period b)After Muhammed till wahhab's revival c)After Wahhabi's revival, i.e. modern.


Clearly then you lack experience of other types of community if you feel you can make such ridiculous statements.
Christianity has been easily as violent, and for longer. Judaism too. But STILL you fools are intent on dragging "violence" and extremism into this when at no point has there been even the slightest threat of such in the OP.

The intense depth of your ignorance astounds me: That you both still insist on making his about extremism when its simply about religious parents making a similar request to religious parents all over the world, in all forms of religion. Nothing more. Nothing unreasonable or violent or demanding. Just the same request as Christian/Jewish/Mormon/etc parents make all the time. Makes me sick that such idiocy exists.


It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....


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25 Feb 2011, 4:17 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educa ... 23105.html

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Vicky Tuck, president of the Girls' School Association, which represents the country's top independent girls' schools, told her association's annual conference in Winchester: "Far from living in the dying days of single-sex education, I am confident that as understanding of the brain continues to evolve, what is obvious to us will become obvious to everyone: girls learn in a different way to boys and it is crucial to cater for their separate needs.

"I have a hunch that in 50 years' time, maybe only 25, people will be doubled up with laughter when they watch documentaries about the history of education and discover people once thought it was a good idea to educate adolescent boys and girls together."

She cited evidence in support of her argument showing that neurological differences between the sexes meant girls' brains worked differently to boys' and added it would reverse a 40-year trend towards co-educational schools.

A study by Harvard Medical School in the US showed that parts of the frontal lobe of the brain, which controls decision-making and problem-solving functions, were proportionally larger in women than men. The area of the brain which regulates emotions is also larger than in men.


But single-sex education is surely anathema to any right-minded Christian, and a gateway to Muslim extremism and the fall of western civilisation? It could never be the case that the parents in the OP are on to a good idea!.


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25 Feb 2011, 4:28 am

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It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....

It is height of illogic. Saying that it is punishment for what British did is just like saying that Americans deserved 9/11 because of their foreign policy. Yes, British committed immense atrocities. They sucked blood out of every poor Indian and put India far behind in terms of economic progress. Similarly, Americans have toppled regimes in the world and created taliban against USSR, we should keep in mind that ideology of Taliban existed in quran itself.
Hindus and Sikhs also migrated to britain, although I believe that only very skilled labor should be allowed to migrate and asylum should be given very cautious, they are no where like Muslims. Its the Muslims who have problems with integration. I hope you will understand the logic.



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25 Feb 2011, 6:04 am

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It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....

It is height of illogic. Saying that it is punishment for what British did is just like saying that Americans deserved 9/11 because of their foreign policy. Yes, British committed immense atrocities. They sucked blood out of every poor Indian and put India far behind in terms of economic progress. Similarly, Americans have toppled regimes in the world and created taliban against USSR, we should keep in mind that ideology of Taliban existed in quran itself.
Hindus and Sikhs also migrated to britain, although I believe that only very skilled labor should be allowed to migrate and asylum should be given very cautious, they are no where like Muslims. Its the Muslims who have problems with integration. I hope you will understand the logic.


What the f**k are you talking about? Who said it was a "punishment" for anything? I was pointing out how stupid it is to complain that the capital for a world-spanning empire happens to have a hefty non-english population. As for 9/11.. punishment is the wrong word, but their Foreign Policy has definitely been the inspiration for a lot of Anti-American feeling.

Without wanting to get sucked into a ridiculous argument about the Raj, I can't help but note that before European involvement (And it wasn't just Britain either.) India as a whole seemed to be doing rather a good line in oppressive caste systems, burning widows, Thuggee and oppressive feudalism. Not exactly an economic powerhouse.

Plenty of Muslims integrate, and more than a few Sikhs and Hindus keep to their own communities and limit their interaction with the indigenous peoples. Stop making s**t up.

Also, I can't help but wonder how you have determined how well Muslims integrate in the UK all the way from New Dehli? Spend a lot of time in London?


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25 Feb 2011, 8:55 am

Macbeth wrote:
daspie wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
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It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....

It is height of illogic. Saying that it is punishment for what British did is just like saying that Americans deserved 9/11 because of their foreign policy. Yes, British committed immense atrocities. They sucked blood out of every poor Indian and put India far behind in terms of economic progress. Similarly, Americans have toppled regimes in the world and created taliban against USSR, we should keep in mind that ideology of Taliban existed in quran itself.
Hindus and Sikhs also migrated to britain, although I believe that only very skilled labor should be allowed to migrate and asylum should be given very cautious, they are no where like Muslims. Its the Muslims who have problems with integration. I hope you will understand the logic.


What the f**k are you talking about? Who said it was a "punishment" for anything? I was pointing out how stupid it is to complain that the capital for a world-spanning empire happens to have a hefty non-english population. As for 9/11.. punishment is the wrong word, but their Foreign Policy has definitely been the inspiration for a lot of Anti-American feeling.

This is why I compared 9/11 with london. I know leftist ideology. Its not about non-english people, its about muslims.
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Without wanting to get sucked into a ridiculous argument about the Raj, I can't help but note that before European involvement (And it wasn't just Britain either.) India as a whole seemed to be doing rather a good line in oppressive caste systems, burning widows, Thuggee and oppressive feudalism. Not exactly an economic powerhouse.

Its you whose arguments have been ridiculous. What caste system has to do with raj? This is your problem if something bad(caste system) was happening so it was o.k. for britishers to oppress further. You cannot do logical arguments. Thugee is every where and is nothing compared to british loot. Feudalism is still here and is present even in west(people give more respect to a relative of a county sherrif etc and what is House of Lords?), it is in human nature. India has had many reformer who spoke against it and britishers oppressed the poor through this system.
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Plenty of Muslims integrate, and more than a few Sikhs and Hindus keep to their own communities and limit their interaction with the indigenous peoples. Stop making sh** up.

Also, I can't help but wonder how you have determined how well Muslims integrate in the UK all the way from New Dehli? Spend a lot of time in London?

Oh really, muslims do integrate and so much so that some times they get obsessed with it and then they carry out rallies like the one showed by murphycop to get over that obsession.
First of all, mind your language, you low I.Q. person.



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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/singlesex-schools-are-the-future-1023105.html

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Vicky Tuck, president of the Girls' School Association, which represents the country's top independent girls' schools, told her association's annual conference in Winchester: "Far from living in the dying days of single-sex education, I am confident that as understanding of the brain continues to evolve, what is obvious to us will become obvious to everyone: girls learn in a different way to boys and it is crucial to cater for their separate needs.

"I have a hunch that in 50 years' time, maybe only 25, people will be doubled up with laughter when they watch documentaries about the history of education and discover people once thought it was a good idea to educate adolescent boys and girls together."

She cited evidence in support of her argument showing that neurological differences between the sexes meant girls' brains worked differently to boys' and added it would reverse a 40-year trend towards co-educational schools.

A study by Harvard Medical School in the US showed that parts of the frontal lobe of the brain, which controls decision-making and problem-solving functions, were proportionally larger in women than men. The area of the brain which regulates emotions is also larger than in men.


But single-sex education is surely anathema to any right-minded Christian, and a gateway to Muslim extremism and the fall of western civilisation? It could never be the case that the parents in the OP are on to a good idea!.

This advocacy for single-sex education is different from muslim demanding it based upon sharia. I have explained this point in that "disney" thread when I differentiated between "insisting upon wearing hat" and "insisting upon wearing muslim head scarf". You will never realize. You make such kind of comparison because you are in denial.



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25 Feb 2011, 1:31 pm

daspie wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
daspie wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
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It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....

It is height of illogic. Saying that it is punishment for what British did is just like saying that Americans deserved 9/11 because of their foreign policy. Yes, British committed immense atrocities. They sucked blood out of every poor Indian and put India far behind in terms of economic progress. Similarly, Americans have toppled regimes in the world and created taliban against USSR, we should keep in mind that ideology of Taliban existed in quran itself.
Hindus and Sikhs also migrated to britain, although I believe that only very skilled labor should be allowed to migrate and asylum should be given very cautious, they are no where like Muslims. Its the Muslims who have problems with integration. I hope you will understand the logic.


What the f**k are you talking about? Who said it was a "punishment" for anything? I was pointing out how stupid it is to complain that the capital for a world-spanning empire happens to have a hefty non-english population. As for 9/11.. punishment is the wrong word, but their Foreign Policy has definitely been the inspiration for a lot of Anti-American feeling.

This is why I compared 9/11 with london. I know leftist ideology. Its not about non-english people, its about muslims.
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Without wanting to get sucked into a ridiculous argument about the Raj, I can't help but note that before European involvement (And it wasn't just Britain either.) India as a whole seemed to be doing rather a good line in oppressive caste systems, burning widows, Thuggee and oppressive feudalism. Not exactly an economic powerhouse.

Its you whose arguments have been ridiculous. What caste system has to do with raj? This is your problem if something bad(caste system) was happening so it was o.k. for britishers to oppress further. You cannot do logical arguments. Thugee is every where and is nothing compared to british loot. Feudalism is still here and is present even in west(people give more respect to a relative of a county sherrif etc and what is House of Lords?), it is in human nature. India has had many reformer who spoke against it and britishers oppressed the poor through this system.
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Plenty of Muslims integrate, and more than a few Sikhs and Hindus keep to their own communities and limit their interaction with the indigenous peoples. Stop making sh** up.

Also, I can't help but wonder how you have determined how well Muslims integrate in the UK all the way from New Dehli? Spend a lot of time in London?

Oh really, muslims do integrate and so much so that some times they get obsessed with it and then they carry out rallies like the one showed by murphycop to get over that obsession.
First of all, mind your language, you low I.Q. person.


Did I say it was "OK for the British to oppress further? No. I pointed out that European involvement in India was hardly a set-back economically. Might as well say that the Roman Empire set the UK back, with their "sewers" and "floors" and suchlike.

"Thugee is everywhere"? Explain please. Everywhere where? Are you saying that Murder-Goddess worship still continues in India or what?

It is customary to say "First of all" at the beginning of a list of statements, not at the end. And insulting my IQ in Pythonesque pidgin English because I refuse to accede to your odd "logic" is hardly reflective of a towering intellect on your part either I might add. And if you're trying to suggest that I have a low IQ because I use "bad language" then frankly you can go bollocks. I use the words I mean to use in the fashion I choose to use them because I feel they represent what I am trying to convey in any given sentence.

I didn't say ALL Muslims integrate. But plenty of them do quite well.

It gets quite tiring having you two constantly making out like I think all Muslims are lovely peaceful people with not an iota of hatred in their hearts, because I don't. I have never claimed that all Muslims are peaceful, nor that I love them, or anything else of the sort. Nor am I blind to the rabble-rousing extremism that goes on in the Muslim community. Never said anything of the sort. Some Muslims ARE violent war-mongering dangerous terrorist. SOME. Plenty of them are not. Plenty of them are just normal people trying to get on with their lives without being hated on for the actions of someone else.


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25 Feb 2011, 2:54 pm

daspie wrote:
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daspie wrote:
It is really scary what London has become.


The one-time capital of a global empire? Who would have thought that "foreign people" would settle there? How terrifying....

It is height of illogic. Saying that it is punishment for what British did is just like saying that Americans deserved 9/11 because of their foreign policy. Yes, British committed immense atrocities. They sucked blood out of every poor Indian and put India far behind in terms of economic progress. Similarly, Americans have toppled regimes in the world and created taliban against USSR, we should keep in mind that ideology of Taliban existed in quran itself.
Hindus and Sikhs also migrated to britain, although I believe that only very skilled labor should be allowed to migrate and asylum should be given very cautious, they are no where like Muslims. Its the Muslims who have problems with integration. I hope you will understand the logic.


The word is 'blowback,' not 'punishment.'
We Americans have been waging a war that was only 'cold' for ourselves and the Soviet Union for decades, and when the Soviet Union fell we kept right on exploiting other countries for oil and other natural resources. A better comparison would be 9/11 and the IRA bombings in London. Both were terrorism, and neither was justified - but both were the blowback of bullying policies.

Immigration, and especially the eventual intermarriage it brings, is good for a population. It reduces homozygosity and allows for greater adaptability.



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Its not about non-english people, its about muslims.

To murphycop, it is about non-English and non-white populations.

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Its you whose arguments have been ridiculous. What caste system has to do with raj? This is your problem if something bad(caste system) was happening so it was o.k. for britishers to oppress further. You cannot do logical arguments. Thugee is every where and is nothing compared to british loot. Feudalism is still here and is present even in west(people give more respect to a relative of a county sherrif etc and what is House of Lords?), it is in human nature. India has had many reformer who spoke against it and britishers oppressed the poor through this system.

His point, I think, was that the Hindus are far from being the peaceful, spiritual victims of Muslim oppression that you are portraying them as.
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Oh really, muslims do integrate and so much so that some times they get obsessed with it and then they carry out rallies like the one showed by murphycop to get over that obsession.[/b]
First of all, mind your language, you low I.Q. person.

IIrc, the placards that murphycop posted pictures of were of rallies in muslim-majority countries in Africa and the middle east after the publication of the Mohammad cartoons in a Danish newspaper. They demonstrated that Muslim extremists can be violent, but not that there is a significant proportion of extremist Muslims in England.



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25 Feb 2011, 3:03 pm

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This advocacy for single-sex education is different from muslim demanding it based upon sharia. I have explained this point in that "disney" thread when I differentiated between "insisting upon wearing hat" and "insisting upon wearing muslim head scarf". You will never realize. You make such kind of comparison because you are in denial.

I fail to see how same-sex education based on Islamic theology is better or worse than same-sex education based on Christian theology. Frankly, there's less outright sexism in the Koran (the Hadith is another matter altogether) than there is in the Christian bible, old or new testament.



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25 Feb 2011, 3:44 pm

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Did I say it was "OK for the British to oppress further? No. I pointed out that European involvement in India was hardly a set-back economically. Might as well say that the Roman Empire set the UK back, with their "sewers" and "floors" and suchlike.

If you think that European involvement in India was hardly a set-back economically then you need to google about it or read about it.
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"Thugee is everywhere"? Explain please. Everywhere where? Are you saying that Murder-Goddess worship still continues in India or what?

What I meant by "Thugee" was robbery. Is New York or London safe? What do you mean by Murder-Goddess? If you are referring to durga or kali is shown as killing a demon then I must say that it is not wrong to do so. Non-violence fails when the enemy is bent upon killing you.
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It is customary to say "First of all" at the beginning of a list of statements, not at the end. And insulting my IQ in Pythonesque pidgin English because I refuse to accede to your odd "logic" is hardly reflective of a towering intellect on your part either I might add. And if you're trying to suggest that I have a low IQ because I use "bad language" then frankly you can go bollocks. I use the words I mean to use in the fashion I choose to use them because I feel they represent what I am trying to convey in any given sentence.

I wrote "First of all" for the beginning but then I scrolled up and started replying to individual paragraphs and forgot about that. My English may be Pythonesque to you but what I right is logical and cogent. I have been thinking about Islam for so many years now. Yes, you seem to be low I.Q. because of the way you are arguing i.e. by not directly replying to my arguments and using abusive language because you don't have logic.
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I didn't say ALL Muslims integrate. But plenty of them do quite well.

It gets quite tiring having you two constantly making out like I think all Muslims are lovely peaceful people with not an iota of hatred in their hearts, because I don't. I have never claimed that all Muslims are peaceful, nor that I love them, or anything else of the sort. Nor am I blind to the rabble-rousing extremism that goes on in the Muslim community. Never said anything of the sort. Some Muslims ARE violent war-mongering dangerous terrorist. SOME. Plenty of them are not. Plenty of them are just normal people trying to get on with their lives without being hated on for the actions of someone else.

Why that rabble-rousing extremism is not present among Hindus and Sikhs? Think about it and you will understand what I and murphycop has been telling you all along. I hope this time my english is o.k. Thanks for reminding me about my english though, seriously.