Are Jews Basically "Fellow Christians?"
Not sure what QFS means, but to expand on Roman's remarks, the Constitution has its roots in Judeo-Christian values.
Anyways something interesting I ran across:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Were_any_of_t ... n_religion
If it wasn't for Jewish People we might not have had a country:
I might be mistaken, but IIRC the guy you're referring to was actually ineligible vote under the laws of New York, both pre- and post- Revolution. In addition to being owed a few bucks. Maybe if he'd lived past the ratification of the Constitution things might have changed, but probably not. After all, Connecticut had an "Established" church, supported by taxes until sometime in the 1820s.
And your claim of Judeo-Christian values as basic to the founding of the US need to be reconciled to what Thomas Jefferson wrote. Many times and in many ways. I think my personal favorite is the Book of Revelation as the "ravings of a maniac." And if you want more I'm pretty sure I can find them. John Adams, James Madison, Ethan Allen, etc. As best I recall, Washington said things one way sometimes, another way other times. Like he couldn't be bothered with it and didn't want to offend, or perhaps he did have some sort of inner conflict of faith. (I do know Madison did not want clergy in the Armed Forces, nor a chaplain for Congress.)
Going the other way, I'm pretty sure Patrick Henry was a solid Christian. Which is kind of funny since he spearheaded the campaign in Virginia AGAINST ratifying the Constitution, and I believe actually did drag religion in as a reason to oppose it, among others.
Anyway, Link: THOMAS JEFFERSON ON CHRISTIANITY & RELIGION
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, Jan. 17, 1825
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While all three religions have common roots, I still don't see how a Christian could be considered a Muslim, or a Muslim a Jew, or yes, a Jew a Christian. Rather than trying to create non-existent associations beyond common origins, I think the emphasis should rather be on mutual respect for one another, despite differences.
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While all three religions have common roots, I still don't see how a Christian could be considered a Muslim, or a Muslim a Jew, or yes, a Jew a Christian. Rather than trying to create non-existent associations beyond common origins, I think the emphasis should rather be on mutual respect for one another, despite differences.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
All religions are equally true, equally false and equally foolish.
ruveyn
I recall Jerry Falwell claiming that the only Jews who got into Heaven, without converting to Christianity, were the characters of the Old Testament who were looking forward to the coming of Jesus. Jews who remained Jews after that were lost.
The idea of the "dual covenant" (i.e., one for Jews, who don't have to convert to Christianity, and another for Christians) seems rather new among the Fundies.
All religions are equally true, equally false and equally foolish.
ruveyn
It would help if you checked the data before saying such things. I would let you squeeze by if you had said "alike" rather than equally, allowing for your right to a squinched standpoint. But this is like my associate who tried to maintain all languages are of equal complexity.
While all three religions have common roots, I still don't see how a Christian could be considered a Muslim, or a Muslim a Jew, or yes, a Jew a Christian. Rather than trying to create non-existent associations beyond common origins, I think the emphasis should rather be on mutual respect for one another, despite differences.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
All religions are equally true, equally false and equally foolish.
ruveyn
For once we're in agreement
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The idea of the "dual covenant" (i.e., one for Jews, who don't have to convert to Christianity, and another for Christians) seems rather new among the Fundies.
Though I do recall he had said he would never try to convert "God's chosen people," as if attempting to bring them to Christ was an unnecessary insult.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
According to Jerry
http://www.religioustolerance.org/falwell.htm
What a scheister, eh?
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/falwell.htm
What a scheister, eh?
Or maybe, just maybe, the Anti-Christ was a reference to the Roman Emperor Nero, who had persecuted the early church.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
