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Where are you politically?
Liberal 13%  13%  [ 13 ]
Conservative 10%  10%  [ 10 ]
Moderate 7%  7%  [ 7 ]
Socialist 13%  13%  [ 13 ]
Libertarian 15%  15%  [ 15 ]
Authoritarian 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Anarchist 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Communist 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Centrist 6%  6%  [ 6 ]
Mixture of a few 20%  20%  [ 20 ]
Other 9%  9%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 102

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18 Mar 2012, 1:25 pm

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I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy .


Well, Gordon Gecko and his real life counterparts then and today certainly thought - and think - so.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah america is all about greed it seems but I am greedy when it comes to sex but not so much when it comes to money.


Amen, Aspie brother!

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Thank you my fellow Aspie



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18 Mar 2012, 2:37 pm

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i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining. :roll:

In the Middle Ages, the nobility was obviously positionned above the majority of the population. It held almost all political powers, at least in rural areas, all completely open and justified as the unalterable order given by God.

Yet for all that, I always feel, when comparing them to their peasants, that they were much closer to each other than our ruling class is from our lower class.


Absolutely. The nobles always lived close to their rural peasantry, and always interacted with them. In some cases, the nobles may have been so poor that they lived little better, but were still given the respect their social rank demanded. Today, the wealthy can - and do - live separate and apart from the rest of us. Just consider how George Bush I, and now Romney appear so awkward in public among "commoners."

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18 Mar 2012, 2:40 pm

Democratic Socialist, I'd say. I like some of the features of a socialist society. Such as public health services the government pay for, no phoney insurance scams, etc. But I also believe people should have a word and say in what is going on too.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:46 pm

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Democratic Socialist, I'd say. I like some of the features of a socialist society. Such as public health services the government pay for, no phoney insurance scams, etc. But I also believe people should have a word and say in what is going on too.


I believe there had always been an intention for democracy in socialism from the start. But because communism had developed quickly into an authoritarian system, and because the Nazis had stolen the word, socialism has gotten a bad, anti-democratic rap.

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18 Mar 2012, 2:51 pm

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I believe there had always been an intention for democracy in socialism from the start. But because communism had developed quickly into an authoritarian system, and because the Nazis had stolen the word, socialism has gotten a bad, anti-democratic rap.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Well we actually have some socialism in our society already.

-Public education

-Public libraries

-Public transportation

People are to dumb to notice this though. And they fight socialism not realizing socialism is already been a part of our society.



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18 Mar 2012, 3:18 pm

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I believe there had always been an intention for democracy in socialism from the start. But because communism had developed quickly into an authoritarian system, and because the Nazis had stolen the word, socialism has gotten a bad, anti-democratic rap.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Well we actually have some socialism in our society already.

-Public education

-Public libraries

-Public transportation

People are to dumb to notice this though. And they fight socialism not realizing socialism is already been a part of our society.


Oh, absolutely! I think one of the dumbest signs I've seen on a televised tea bagger rally read, "Get your government out of my medicare!"

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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18 Mar 2012, 3:35 pm

And then you see this...



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18 Mar 2012, 3:38 pm

I really have no idea, so I put down "Multiple". Then again, I guess I like what they're doing up in northern Europe.

Neocons and neoliberals scare me though.

Liberal means something completely different here in Australia. Basically, our Liberal Party is basically our equivalent to the US Republican Party, in more ways than one.



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18 Mar 2012, 3:49 pm

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And then you see this...


AAARRRGGGHHH!

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18 Mar 2012, 4:10 pm

Pandora_Box wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I believe there had always been an intention for democracy in socialism from the start. But because communism had developed quickly into an authoritarian system, and because the Nazis had stolen the word, socialism has gotten a bad, anti-democratic rap.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Well we actually have some socialism in our society already.

-Public education

-Public libraries

-Public transportation

People are to dumb to notice this though. And they fight socialism not realizing socialism is already been a part of our society.


The first public library system in the U.S. was privately funded by Andrew Carnegie, the founder of U. S. Steel.

Carnegie came over from Scotland with just the clothes on his back and he founded the biggest steel company in the world. He was a billionare when gold was going at $20 an ounce.

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18 Mar 2012, 7:06 pm

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Pandora_Box wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I believe there had always been an intention for democracy in socialism from the start. But because communism had developed quickly into an authoritarian system, and because the Nazis had stolen the word, socialism has gotten a bad, anti-democratic rap.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Well we actually have some socialism in our society already.

-Public education

-Public libraries

-Public transportation

People are to dumb to notice this though. And they fight socialism not realizing socialism is already been a part of our society.


The first public library system in the U.S. was privately funded by Andrew Carnegie, the founder of U. S. Steel.

Carnegie came over from Scotland with just the clothes on his back and he founded the biggest steel company in the world. He was a billionare when gold was going at $20 an ounce.

ruveyn


But I doubt that even he could have established a library in every state, county, and city in America. Public works (or socialism, if you will), is necessary for that.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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18 Mar 2012, 7:53 pm

femme wrote:
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One can debate which turd is less smelly or just agree they're both turds


One can debate about anything thats why its called a debate.


Yeah, Vigilans got the better of that exchange. xD


Yeah Vigilians got the better of me by using a immature analogy.


It is a very apropos analogy, thank you. Fascism is immaturity ;)

Hey... if Joker says "got the better of me" to a comment I made to femme... does that mean femme is actually... Inuyasha? :o


Who in the blue hell is Inuyasha.


He was the official mouthpiece of the Republican party here on WP for a year or so. Then he disappeared. I hope everything's alright with him.

Maybe he landed a position at Fox News. Nobody's seen a scowling young man with a red robe and long white hair on Hannity by chance have you? Maybe he's taken Glenn Beck's time slot.



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19 Mar 2012, 12:59 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Just consider how George Bush I, and now Romney appear so awkward in public among "commoners."

i remember during bush sr.'s term, there was a political cartoon showing bush trying to shop in a grocery store, and when the cashier tried to scan the "compassionate conservative- i care" can of beans he was buying, it wouldn't scan, and the cashier said, "why doesn't this scan?"



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19 Mar 2012, 1:03 am

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Just consider how George Bush I, and now Romney appear so awkward in public among "commoners."

i remember during bush sr.'s term, there was a political cartoon showing bush trying to shop in a grocery store, and when the cashier tried to scan the "compassionate conservative- i care" can of beans he was buying, it wouldn't scan, and the cashier said, "why doesn't this scan?"


:lol:

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19 Mar 2012, 1:04 am

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And then you see this...


AAARRRGGGHHH!

that clueless social services recipient reminds me of a cartoon i saw of a dog happily riding in the car with his master, and he stuck his head out the window and gaily said to one of his buddy dogs, "i'm going to the vet's to get tutored!"



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19 Mar 2012, 1:12 am

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
enrico_dandolo wrote:
And then you see this...


AAARRRGGGHHH!

that clueless social services recipient reminds me of a cartoon i saw of a dog happily riding in the car with his master, and he stuck his head out the window and gaily said to one of his buddy dogs, "i'm going to the vet's to get tutored!"


:lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer