05 Sep 2012, 4:40 pm
so because I use TNT as fuel in fireplace and go fishing with hand grenades, does it mean any moron shoud keep them?
It is almost impossible to kill 20 people on the street with lock pick. No analogy at all.
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05 Sep 2012, 4:48 pm
Who cares people are dying, as long as I enjoy my recreation 
Very considerate and human 
05 Sep 2012, 5:37 pm
The last three posts should be proof that there can be no worthwhile discussion with these people.
05 Sep 2012, 5:48 pm
Raptor wrote:
The last three posts should be proof that there can be no worthwhile discussion with these people.
Why would you want a worthwhile discussion over anything?
Anyway, there are 3 things that gun proponents would have to admit before I can take them seriously:
1. The function of guns is killing (animals or humans). They are designed with killing in mind. The gun industry would rate a gun that cannot kill as a bad quality one. The first ever use for a gun was killing humans.
2. Guns are a tool. All tools have a primary function and the primary function of the tool called "gun" is to kill.
3. It is perfectly possible to regulate something without making it illegal or reducing your rights to get it. Example: liquor, cars, adopted infants.
05 Sep 2012, 6:18 pm
05 Sep 2012, 6:27 pm
05 Sep 2012, 6:29 pm
aSKperger wrote:
Who cares people are dying, as long as I enjoy my recreation Very considerate and human
I'd had enough of your guilt tripping rhetoric. I could just as easily say you don't give a s**t about small business owners in low income neighbourhoods who need a gun for protection as long as YOU can sleep comfortably at night, but I have something called intellectual honesty. And in case you didn't know, using straw man arguments and appeal to motives (which is a form of ad hominem) does a lot to undermine yours.
Very considerate and human I tried to be f*****g civil with you. I've even given you the benefit of the doubt a few times when I could've easily just misrepresented your argument or jumped to conclusions but all you have to show for it is even more arrogance. Thank you very f*****g much, I really appreciate it.
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05 Sep 2012, 6:35 pm
Raptor wrote:
The last three posts should be proof that there can be no worthwhile discussion with these people.
There are some less than sharp knives in this drawer, true, but I think there are a handful of actually useful and interesting discussions going on here. The thread has certainly given me the opportunity to lay bare some of the fallacies of the gun control argument, educate some people about the technical aspects of guns and ammunition, and use both the sharp side and the silver side of my keyboard. Smacking the antis around can be fun, but this is a battle won through education, as their position simply can't stand up to scrutiny and examination, as this thread is amply demonstrating.
05 Sep 2012, 6:42 pm
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05 Sep 2012, 6:57 pm
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05 Sep 2012, 7:15 pm
05 Sep 2012, 7:19 pm
aSKperger wrote:
It is almost impossible to kill 20 people on the street with lock pick. No analogy at all.
It is impossible to kill 20,000 people in a city instantaneously with a gun. So there's no analogy between WMDs and guns at all.
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Remove guns = minimize threads.
I'm pretty sure we'd have plenty of threads even if people stopped posting in the gun-related ones.
05 Sep 2012, 7:27 pm
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