Are the Muslims really the biggest threat . . .

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How could any religion be a threat when it is based on the hallucinatory ramblings of a man who was a pedophile, a polygamist, and a womanizer?

Then Mormonism is a threat as well, not just Islam, and we don't know enough about Jesus (we know more about Buddha, and he appeared centuries before Christianity did) to figure out what he was or what he wasn't.

Muslim extremists are the biggest threat to other Muslims. They're trying to push their own civilization backwards.

Right, and have you anything to offer other than this bisyllabic rebuttal?

The Objectivist cult certainly is dangerous, because they have a significant drive to take the white house, spearheaded by the tea party movement.

If these people succeed they will deliver a level of wealth disparity upon America not realised since the darkest days of Victorian England and the early industrial revolution.

I think in many countries where Islamists dominate, whether they have any "civilisation" at all to speak of is all rather debatable. I feel so sorry for the poor bastards living there who yearn for something better.

It amazes me how conservatives, out of the blue can find a deep sincere sympathy for the downtrodden of Islamic countries yet the same is never extended to the poor bastards in their own countries that 'yearn for something better'.

one of the basic axioms of Objectivist philosophy is the condemnation of the -initiation- of force.

That is hardly the hallmark of terrorism.

ruveyn

I've never heard an objectivist bemoan preemptive violence when it was politically expedient for them.

The tea party arent calling for the unconditional removal of troops from Afghanistan. The Taliban weren't responsible for 9/11.

Argument from Ignorance. A well known fallacy.

ruveyn

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No. The biggest threat to the modern world is human overpopulation. BUT Islam and several other religions advocate no birth control, and Islam in particular contains pockets of fundamentalism that keep women oppressed and uneducated and that contributes in part to the overpopulation problem. But Islam is not alone in that contribution.

The brutally warped elite of the world is getting worse and worse under the influence of self-justifying pro-terrorism cults like the Rand cult and so forth. They are the biggest threat. They are rewarded for crashing the global financial system. They seem to be convincing sufficient people to accept this. They are dangerous and their minds are turning more and more to evil.

Rand's tomes celebrate terrorisms. Rand heroes include someone who blew up a building and a sniper who killed people for terroristic purposes, not to mention pirates. For people supposedly opposed to "initiating force" and coercion they like to celebrate murder and terrorism.

Uh, dude, plenty of us are doing just that. It just doesn't exactly create international incidents. You ever tried being so peaceful and tolerant that people hear about it on the news with any frequency?



It's not the action of any system. It's the action of human beings.



Religions and ideologies don't resort to censorship or violence when criticized, people do that.



What an incredibly original and thought-provoking comment, Fnord.



Almost civilized? No way that could be possible, I haven't murdered anyone for days. So it can't be that much of an accomplishment if evil terrorist scum like me can do that, right?

Lack of education is the worlds enemy right now. When you take away schools, religious indoctrination takes its place. It doesn't matter which religion it is. When someone is indoctrinated with religion, they have no education to give them direction and when that happens, people get killed. I shouldn't have to go into great detail about the importance of a quality education and schooling.

Now, I'm not saying religion is bad. In the hands of someone who is educated and who is taught tolerance, religion can be a beautiful thing. But in the hands of someone who doesn't know how babies are made?

I know. And they suddenly become concerned with feminism, or gay rights, or police brutality, or corruption, yet turning their gaze on their own country and it's predominant ways, all is fine.



Yet they can always find someone to point the finger at with a 'but they started it'. And to call it a 'philosophy' is an insult to the word.

Most Islamic terrorists aren't exactly poor, uneducated people.

For example, Mohamed Atta was the son of a well off Egyptian family and a university student in Germany. He was one of the leading participants in the outrage of 9/11. Most of the "martyrs" are from upper class families.

Really poor Muslims are too busy trying to get the next meal for their families.

ruveyn