israel sure looks like nazi germany

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During the Roman Empire.

Indeed, and should others also claim their land from that long ago? Should the Southern Mediterranean be recaptured by Christianity? Should the Germanic people be pushed out of Britain? Should the Slavs, the Huns, and the Turks be pushed to the east? Should the Christians be pushed out of Europe, back into Israel, by Pagans? How can anyone think it is moral to "reclaim" land lost that long ago?

And besides, Jews are mostly of European ancestry. Is it solely their religion that gives them the right to ethnically cleanse a people today because of what the Romans did 2000 years ago to people of the same religion?

Shes talking about over 2000 years ago(like bc times) they lost it. It only existed for 200 years.

If you actually look at this, the land was part of egypt. So surely it should go back to egypt. They had it the 2nd Millennium bc. Sure it's not as recent as over 2000 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

Not to mention the original Jews stole it from the Canaanites. This is total BS.

I already said they took it from the Romans, don't take words out of my mouth, but disagree when I say them.

They took it from the Romans, not the Jews.

Or do you not know the Roman Empire existed During the Roman Empire.
It isn't like they called it Israeli Margaritaville... It was called The ROMAN Empire

If you read this it suggests that the Palestinians are Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_st ... lestinians

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But I mean the orignial Jews are Arabs, it's just a different religion. Muslim is an off shoot of the Jewish religion.

It's not like jewish people are different people. Even their bible says they are related to the arabs.

Better yet, how about Native Americans reclaiming their land? It's all hypocrisy. If you support Jews reclaiming land that they lost thousands of years ago, then you should certainly also support Native Americans reclaiming the land they lost only a couple hundred years ago. Or how about Mexico reclaiming California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas?

But when you are talking about religion, as this thread proves, there is no room for any type of logic.

Since you believe Palestinians should get back their "land" then you should welcome Mexican government removing you from your house and letting an impoverished Mexican family live in it instead.

they deserve it more than the Israelis, the Israelis are doing that very same thing

Arabs and Jews are ethnic Semites.

This conflict/war has been going on for 100 years. It boils down to the fact that the Muslim Arabs will not accept a sizeable presence of Jews in the Middle East.

At the moment, we're funding and legitimising their antisemitism (through UNRWA and massive transfers of cash to 'Palestine' and their leaders). This isn't helping.

If you fund and endorse bad behaviour, you're going to get more of it.

Which is why you've got the spectre of, for example, EU (and Norwegian) aid going to pay salaries of Palestinian terrorists.

The EU and other organisations are funding this terror, and they are funding this hate and intense corruption.



If you want that, then Hamas, PIJ, Fatah etc. etc. - in fact all of these extremist movements - all have to go (they will probably have to be slaughtered out of power - all of them). Basically, Palestinian political 'culture' needs to be completely wiped off the face of the planet and rebuilt anew. I'm serious.

None of what you want can anything happen in anything like the present conditions. Hamas would never allow it; see how they run Gaza and how they treat their people.



That's because a lot of them are, and the ones that aren't like that keep their heads down and shut up for their own safety and that of their families.

My point is that you can encourage people (like the Palestinians) to review their worldview by, for example, making it clear that terrorism doesn't pay. At the moment, it does.

A young Palestinian that becomes a shahid or a 'political prisoner' (inverted commas deliberate) is an absolute celebrity back home. His family are taken care of, and (if he lives) he becomes a quite well-off man once he leaves prison.

Here are examples of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbTqzm747ME[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR_rrFT6BgU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullKxdvISnY[/youtube]

This stuff is pumped out every day on PA (and Hamas) TV. I can't imagine what this kind of stuff does to a child's psychological state growing up in this environment.



"Kill Jews for Allah."

Deal with that one. It's a religious fight.



Often quoted in Palestine by Islamic scholars as justification.

Ah but you see, if they didn't support Israel then they would be forced to live with the Jews, just like prior to the war.

Therein is the REAL anti-semitism. Just remember who it was that advocated Israel in the first place. Gentile Israeli supporters are fine with Judaism, up until it being on their doorstep. They certainly don't want to homogenise Jews as being 'among their own'.

I dont know why people blindly support Israel they have been a terrible ally. they have been caught selling top secrete tech given to them by the united states to the Chinese. they have bombed a navy ship, they are constantly pushing for more wars. Pakistan has been a better ally than Israel

and look how the USA screwed around with Pakistan, by launching drone missiles at innocent civillians and illegally invading Pakistani soil to kill the ageing, sickly, and mostly titular Bin Laden.

Jews used to be able to live in peace through out the Muslim world before the creation of Israel and you know it. Don't make stuff up.

It boils down to the fact that the native people have lost their homes and land from a conflict that had nothing to do with them WW2.

Anyway what the Palestinians are fighting for now is what remains of their homeland which is being slowly taken away from them by the Jewish settlers.

I can't understand how anyone can not see why the Palestinians hate the Isralies ?

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Then we fill that vacuum
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