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26 May 2021, 12:48 pm

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There are "white supremacists" in the United States. And in most of the "western world," too.

Overt "white supremacism" is relatively rare----but there are many people who happen to believe white people are superior to nonwhite people.

There are even a few (the Black Muslims) who believe white people lived in caves while black people had civilizations.

So those people would be Black Supremacists wouldn't they? Sounds like it could be dangerous! :D



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26 May 2021, 4:34 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There are "white supremacists" in the United States. And in most of the "western world," too.

Overt "white supremacism" is relatively rare----but there are many people who happen to believe white people are superior to nonwhite people.

There are even a few (the Black Muslims) who believe white people lived in caves while black people had civilizations.

So those people would be Black Supremacists wouldn't they? Sounds like it could be dangerous! :D


The FBI crushed the black panthers way back in the 1960s and likely had a hand in dividing the black muslims and civil rights movement after MLK's assassination. In contrast they have allowed white supremacists to flourish (You avoided commenting on the link i Posted where in fact white supremacists are the most dangerous domestic terrorists in America).



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26 May 2021, 8:00 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
There are "white supremacists" in the United States. And in most of the "western world," too.

Overt "white supremacism" is relatively rare----but there are many people who happen to believe white people are superior to nonwhite people.

There are even a few (the Black Muslims) who believe white people lived in caves while black people had civilizations.

So those people would be Black Supremacists wouldn't they? Sounds like it could be dangerous! :D


The FBI crushed the black panthers way back in the 1960s and likely had a hand in dividing the black muslims and civil rights movement after MLK's assassination. In contrast they have allowed white supremacists to flourish (You avoided commenting on the link i Posted where in fact white supremacists are the most dangerous domestic terrorists in America).

LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! !! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!



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26 May 2021, 8:06 pm

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LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! ! ! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!


For some reason Merrick Garland has more credibility on this issue than you. :chin:


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26 May 2021, 9:47 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! ! ! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!

Not if you're black it isn't.

That's the point you're missing here. All American citizens have equal status. The U.S. is an immigrant nation.

If the biggest threat to U.S. citizens is currently KKK-style violence against non-Whites, that's the biggest threat against Americans per se. Especially as it is (unfortunately) practiced by some public servants whose duty is instead to prevent it.

However it's not necessarily the biggest threat to your particular sub-set of Americans. But you're no more important than anyone else, regardless of race or skin color. To assume that you are, demonstrates unwarranted privaledge.

Something you claim doesn't exist, yet here you are demonstrating it....



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26 May 2021, 9:57 pm

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Mr Reynholm wrote:
LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! ! ! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!

Not if you're black it isn't.

That's the point you're missing here. All American citizens have equal status. The U.S. is an immigrant nation.

If the biggest threat to U.S. citizens is currently KKK-style violence against non-Whites, that's the biggest threat against Americans per se. Especially as it is (unfortunately) practiced by some public servants whose duty is instead to prevent it.

However it's not necessarily the biggest threat to your particular sub-set of Americans. But you're no more important than anyone else, regardless of race or skin color. To assume that you are, demonstrates unwarranted privaledge.

Something you claim doesn't exist, yet here you are demonstrating it....


When a white supremacist blew up the Oklahoma City building he killed a lot more than just black Americans. When they get violent they target anyone they consider hostile to their interests.


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26 May 2021, 11:55 pm

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Wikipedia? Really?

Sorry, I didn't realize this was a book report.
Here are some non-Wiki sources I found on the first page of my search results. I hope you find them satisfactory:
https://time.com/charlottesville-white- ... y-clashes/
https://www.splcenter.org/unite-the-right
https://www.adl.org/blog/violence-and-h ... -the-right
https://abcnews.go.com/US/happen-charlo ... d=57107500
https://www.adl.org/blog/two-years-ago- ... e-they-now
https://www.facinghistory.org/sites/def ... meline.pdf
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138246/ ... -right-uva

The Wikipedia article has 488 sources cited if you need more.


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27 May 2021, 1:36 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There are "white supremacists" in the United States. And in most of the "western world," too.

Overt "white supremacism" is relatively rare----but there are many people who happen to believe white people are superior to nonwhite people.

There are even a few (the Black Muslims) who believe white people lived in caves while black people had civilizations.

So those people would be Black Supremacists wouldn't they? Sounds like it could be dangerous! :D


The FBI crushed the black panthers way back in the 1960s and likely had a hand in dividing the black muslims and civil rights movement after MLK's assassination. In contrast they have allowed white supremacists to flourish (You avoided commenting on the link i Posted where in fact white supremacists are the most dangerous domestic terrorists in America).

LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! ! ! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!


Tell that to the white victims of Timothy McVeigh or for that matter the mother of heather Heyer.



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27 May 2021, 7:30 am

Redd_Kross wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
LOL! So our biggest domestic threat are White Supremacists?! LOL!
Careful no White Supremacists accost you on your way home!! ! ! LOL!! !
This is genuinely side splittingly funny!! !!LOL!!

Not if you're black it isn't.

That's the point you're missing here. All American citizens have equal status. The U.S. is an immigrant nation.

If the biggest threat to U.S. citizens is currently KKK-style violence against non-Whites, that's the biggest threat against Americans per se. Especially as it is (unfortunately) practiced by some public servants whose duty is instead to prevent it.

However it's not necessarily the biggest threat to your particular sub-set of Americans. But you're no more important than anyone else, regardless of race or skin color. To assume that you are, demonstrates unwarranted privaledge.

Something you claim doesn't exist, yet here you are demonstrating it....

You are the one doing the assuming. Look at the facts.



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27 May 2021, 7:42 am

So Timothy Mcveigh is proof that America is a racist country and white supremacy is the biggest treat to our county today? This is truly an alternate reality you have created for yourselves.
So Tim Scott is totally wrong huh?



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27 May 2021, 7:48 am

You DO have a lot of white supremacist racist nuts running around like roaches, looking for the next opportunity to pounce.

The people who ransacked the Capitol......believed in the Trump agenda.....which was for him to assume dictatorial powers and seek to overturn the results of a legitimate election. At least some of the folks who participated in the Insurrection were white supremacists



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27 May 2021, 8:31 am

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You DO have a lot of white supremacist racist nuts running around like roaches, looking for the next opportunity to pounce.

The people who ransacked the Capitol......believed in the Trump agenda.....which was for him to assume dictatorial powers and seek to overturn the results of a legitimate election. At least some of the folks who participated in the Insurrection were white supremacists

Who were they? I have heard nothing about any individuals arrested?
Not to start a whole tangent discussion but,
I totally don't understand the whole "insurrection" narrative. How was a bunch of cosplaying, unarmed rabble supposed to overthrow the US government? Personnaly I think this is just the media narrative because the word "trespassing" wasn't strong enough.
BTW Whats your opinion, is Tim Scott full of it?



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27 May 2021, 9:31 am

Ron Johnson stated on February 15, 2021 in a radio interview: Says Jan. 6 Capitol riot “didn’t seem like an armed insurrection.”

Politifact rates this pants-on-fire.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... urrection/



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Police stopped only a fraction of the violent protestors Jan. 6, but we still know of guns and explosives seized in and around the Capitol. And we know rioters brought knives, brass knuckles a stun gun and other weapons.

Just as notable, video plainly shows the mob using all manner of makeshift weapons to attack police and force their way in, including hockey sticks, flagpoles, fire extinguishers and a police shield stolen from an officer.


Of course, without lying certain arguments can't be advanced so it's not surprising to see posters resort to peddling the same lies about the what happened despite the fact that we saw them fighting with police and using weapons and openly expressing their support for Trump while they engaged in their treason.

Edit: Unarmed Tourists Who Certainly Weren't Participating In An Insurrection:

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https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/97787958 ... -they-used


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27 May 2021, 9:33 am

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Ron Johnson stated on February 15, 2021 in a radio interview: Says Jan. 6 Capitol riot “didn’t seem like an armed insurrection.”

Politifact rates this pants-on-fire.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... urrection/



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Police stopped only a fraction of the violent protestors Jan. 6, but we still know of guns and explosives seized in and around the Capitol. And we know rioters brought knives, brass knuckles a stun gun and other weapons.

Just as notable, video plainly shows the mob using all manner of makeshift weapons to attack police and force their way in, including hockey sticks, flagpoles, fire extinguishers and a police shield stolen from an officer.


Of course, without lying certain arguments can't be advanced so it's not surprising to see posters resort to peddling the same lies about the what happened despite the fact that we saw them fighting with police and using weapons and openly expressing their support for Trump while they engaged in their treason.

Like I said its a topic for a different page.
So What is your take on Tim Scott?



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27 May 2021, 9:43 am

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So What is your take on Tim Scott?


I'm not sure I have one.

Is he supposed to be proof that racism isn't an issue among the populist right base? I don't believe the existence of right-leaning people who don't hold those biases disproves the idea that many do; likewise the existence of PoC who hold right-leaning views doesn't prove that racism isn't an issue on the right.

Do Milo and Dave Rubin prove homophobia isn't an issue on the right?


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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.


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27 May 2021, 10:55 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
So What is your take on Tim Scott?


I'm not sure I have one.

Is he supposed to be proof that racism isn't an issue among the populist right base? I don't believe the existence of right-leaning people who don't hold those biases disproves the idea that many do; likewise the existence of PoC who hold right-leaning views doesn't prove that racism isn't an issue on the right.

Do Milo and Dave Rubin prove homophobia isn't an issue on the right?

Homophobia is a fake made up term. Disapproval does not equal a "Phobia".
I could just as easily call Feminists "Androphobic"
Demonizing and gas lighting those who disagree with you only serves to curtail dialog and debate.
Likewise saying that white persons who don't engage in self hatred are "White Supremacists" is equally unseemly.