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17 Dec 2023, 5:59 pm

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The worlds governments have been colluding and rusing for centuries to control the peasants.


Religion has been one of their foremost tools in achieving that goal, but you conveniently overlooked that.


I agree, secular religions like evolution and statism have destroyed critical thinking...

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Christianity has long been used as tool for destroying critical thinking and you're showing those effects.


I'm not a Christian... Christianity is paganism. That's why they celebrate Christmas and Easter, congregate in tax exempt buildings, believe things contrary to the Bible...

It's funny however that you don't realize everything you say about "Christianity" can be applied to evolution. Mainstream science is a religion, you need faith to believe it, your bible is "evidence" even though it's quite impossible to prove something happened 50 million years ago, let alone something as goofy as humans coming from soupy rocks in a lake. But you have faith in your religion, the preachers and pastors that proclaim the truth of evolution... correct?



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17 Dec 2023, 6:00 pm

Evolution is Science; Christianity is Religion.

Critical Thinking and Doubt are to Science what Superstition and Certainty are to Religion.



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17 Dec 2023, 6:03 pm

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Evolution is Science; Christianity is Religion.

Critical Thinking and Doubt are to Science what Superstition and Certainty are to Religion.


Anything taught by the government inside mandatory public schools should never be mistaken for science...



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17 Dec 2023, 6:12 pm

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Evolution is Science; Christianity is Religion.

Critical Thinking and Doubt are to Science what Superstition and Certainty are to Religion.
Anything taught by the government inside mandatory public schools should never be mistaken for science...
A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.

Any claim that relies solely on validation by popular opinion can be disregarded; it is only the howling, bloodthirsty mob which made the claim popular in the first place that must be dealt with.



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17 Dec 2023, 6:15 pm

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A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.


Yes everyone is a bigot if they don't agree with your media created opinions... lol



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17 Dec 2023, 6:19 pm

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A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.
Yes everyone is a bigot if they don't agree with your media created opinions... lol
My "opinions" were created by myself after earning an MSEE and working for over 40 years in STEM fields. The device through which you are connected to this website is based on the "opinions" of those who designed it, for example.

Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.



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17 Dec 2023, 6:21 pm

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A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.
Yes everyone is a bigot if they don't agree with your media created opinions... lol
My "opinions" were created by myself after earning an MSEE and working for over 40 years in STEM fields. The device through which you are connected to this website is based on the "opinions" of those who designed it, for example.

Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.


I don't have an account on either platform...

Coming from the guy who puts a flag up of whatever country the media tells you for the day... comical.



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17 Dec 2023, 6:23 pm

Nagolbud wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.
Yes everyone is a bigot if they don't agree with your media created opinions... lol
My "opinions" were created by myself after earning an MSEE and working for over 40 years in STEM fields. The device through which you are connected to this website is based on the "opinions" of those who designed it, for example.  Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.
I don't have an account on either platform...

Coming from the guy who puts a flag up of whatever country the media tells you for the day... comical.
Those who cannot refute the message often resort to attacking the messenger.

I support Israel, and have for decades. Deal with it.



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17 Dec 2023, 6:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
Nagolbud wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Nagolbud wrote:
Fnord wrote:
A scientist believes in proof without certainty; A bigot believes in certainty without proof.
Yes everyone is a bigot if they don't agree with your media created opinions... lol
My "opinions" were created by myself after earning an MSEE and working for over 40 years in STEM fields. The device through which you are connected to this website is based on the "opinions" of those who designed it, for example.  Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.
I don't have an account on either platform...

Coming from the guy who puts a flag up of whatever country the media tells you for the day... comical.
Those who cannot refute the message often resort to attacking the messenger.

I support Israel, and have for decades. Deal with it.


The Rockefeller funded / created State has barely been around for decades...

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17 Dec 2023, 6:46 pm

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Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.


You're doing it again, making BS assumptions about where his disinformation was obtained so that you can parrot the same thought-terminating cliché as always.


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17 Dec 2023, 6:48 pm

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I'm not a Christian... Christianity is paganism. That's why they celebrate Christmas and Easter, congregate in tax exempt buildings, believe things contrary to the Bible...

It's funny however that you don't realize everything you say about "Christianity" can be applied to evolution. Mainstream science is a religion, you need faith to believe it, your bible is "evidence" even though it's quite impossible to prove something happened 50 million years ago, let alone something as goofy as humans coming from soupy rocks in a lake. But you have faith in your religion, the preachers and pastors that proclaim the truth of evolution... correct?


You're not a Christian, yet you espouse the same theology.

Funny. You waddle like a duck, swim like a duck and quack like a duck and yet I'm expected to believe that you're not a duck.


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17 Dec 2023, 7:15 pm

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Fnord wrote:
Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.
You're doing it again, making BS assumptions about where his disinformation was obtained so that you can parrot the same thought-terminating cliché as always.
Did you not read the word "seem"?  While there seem to be similarities between his writing and those of your average YouTube conspiracist, I cannot say with absolute certainty that he is (or isn't) one too.



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17 Dec 2023, 7:32 pm

Nagolbud wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Evolution is Science; Christianity is Religion.

Critical Thinking and Doubt are to Science what Superstition and Certainty are to Religion.


Anything taught by the government inside mandatory public schools should never be mistaken for science...


Sounds like you dismiss facts you don't like on the basis of association, rather than correctness.


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17 Dec 2023, 8:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.
You're doing it again, making BS assumptions about where his disinformation was obtained so that you can parrot the same thought-terminating cliché as always.
Did you not read the word "seem"?  While there seem to be similarities between his writing and those of your average YouTube conspiracist, I cannot say with absolute certainty that he is (or isn't) one too.


Seems is often a weasel word.

It sure seems like it's your default response to ideas you don't approve of, regardless of where the person encountered those ideas, regardless of if they ever reference YouTube and regardless of how often they cite others sources.

Maybe that's not how it is, but it's sure how it seems.


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17 Dec 2023, 10:02 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Your opinions seem to have been created by YouTube videos and Instagram posts -- you should never let either one do your thinking for you.
You're doing it again, making BS assumptions about where his disinformation was obtained so that you can parrot the same thought-terminating cliché as always.
Did you not read the word "seem"?  While there seem to be similarities between his writing and those of your average YouTube conspiracist, I cannot say with absolute certainty that he is (or isn't) one too.
Seems is often a weasel word.
Sure seems that way sometimes; but it beats the hell out of expressing black-and-white thinking.
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It sure seems like it's your default response to ideas you don't approve of, regardless of where the person encountered those ideas, regardless of if they ever reference YouTube and regardless of how often they cite others sources.
It sure seems like those who express off-the-wall bushlit will often be found to have originated their thinking from at least one conspiracist's YouTube video.
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Maybe that's not how it is, but it's sure how it seems.
Maybe, maybe not. But when the vast grayness between the absolutes of "Is Bushlit" and "Is Not Bushlit" seems shaded toward the 'Is' end of the spectrum, I have to go with the "Seems Like Bushlit" statement.

But that's just my opinion.



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17 Dec 2023, 10:55 pm

Looks like we've got a major conspiracy theorist, even if only for a few hours. I liked the way they expressed their strong doubts about everything, but the explanation of the world that never developed made me lose interest quickly.


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