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Erewhon
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08 Apr 2022, 12:21 pm

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literal straw man, lol

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08 Apr 2022, 12:28 pm

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why would anything but nuclear war lead to the next war being fought with sticks?

I never noticed that issue with the quote despite seeing it around for close to forty years lol.

I started disagreeing with it for a nother reason, I think ww3 is fought with keyboards cameras and monitors, pencils even, but I prefer keyboard.

Then I see this new problem where either I dont understand what he is getting at or else he is babbling... lol/

why is he so sure it leads to sticks? Maybe he did mean pencils?

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08 Apr 2022, 12:36 pm

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I hope you're not one of those people who believe that capitalism is a flawless and incorruptible system that should not be challenged . . .
I hope you are not one of those people who believes Socialism can stand by itself without Capitalism to prop it up.


A mixed economy is a good idea. Unfortunately, many pro-capitalists are indoctrinated into anti-socialism that they won't budge towards coming together. They can't even define socialism correctly and state everything about it is EEEEEEVIL. Jesus was a socialist hippie guru two-thousand years before it was cool.


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08 Apr 2022, 12:58 pm

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A mixed economy is a good idea. Unfortunately, many pro-capitalists are indoctrinated into anti-socialism that they won't budge towards coming together. They can't even define socialism correctly and state everything about it is EEEEEEVIL.
↑ I can accept this much. ↑
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Jesus was a socialist hippie guru two-thousand years before it was cool.
↑ I do not agree with this ↑, because . . .

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Socialism, in its original form, is where the workers own the means of production that employs them.  Democratic Socialists (a.k.a., DemSocs) have perverted Socialism to mean taking from 'EEVILL' Capitalists (except themselves) and giving to everyone else (especially themselves).  DemSocs seem to have overlooked the fact that once all wealth has been taken from Capitalists, there will be no more wealth to redistribute to the poor . . . although the DemSocs will be able to keep all the wealth they have stolen.  Example: Nicolás Maduro, president of Venezuela.

Personally, I would like to join a real cooperative business, but every time I do, there is always just one or two people (e.g., DemSocs) who actually run things, order everyone around, and take most of the profits for themselves.

Sad.



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Fnord wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
A mixed economy is a good idea. Unfortunately, many pro-capitalists are indoctrinated into anti-socialism that they won't budge towards coming together. They can't even define socialism correctly and state everything about it is EEEEEEVIL.
↑ I can accept this much. ↑
Aspiegaming wrote:
Jesus was a socialist hippie guru two-thousand years before it was cool.
↑ I do not agree with this ↑, because . . .

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Socialism, in its original form, is where the workers own the means of production that employs them.  Democratic Socialists have perverted Socialism to mean taking from 'EEVILL' Capitalists (except themselves) and giving to everyone else (especially themselves).  Democratic Socialists seem to have overlooked the fact that once all wealth has been taken from Capitalists, there will be no more wealth to redistribute to the poor . . . although the DemSocs will be able to keep all the wealth they have stolen.  Example: Nicolás Maduro, president of Venezuela.

Personally, I would like to join a real cooperative business, but every time I do, there is always just one or two people (e.g., DemSocs) who actually run things, order everyone around, and take most of the profits for themselves.

Sad.


But the hippie guru part still rings true right?


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08 Apr 2022, 1:16 pm

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But the hippie guru part still rings true right?
Just the 'Guru' part.  'Guru' means 'Teacher'.

'Hippies' originated in the United States about 1930 years after Jesus' death, displayed liberal attitudes toward sexuality, and were heavily into marijuana and psychedelic drugs.



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08 Apr 2022, 2:10 pm

The antinomy that a totalitarian patriot should master in debate:
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We don't even have enough food. why care about this?
We even have enough food. why care about this?
2.
The superiors has good intentions. This is the error in execution of the inferiors.
The inferiors can't do anything either. This is the request of the superiors.
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Those who are dissatisfied can given up their citizenship and get out of our country.
What qualifications does a foreigner have to evaluate us?
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If you can think of it, why can't the government think of it?
With such a big country, the government cannot be thoughtful.


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