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27 Jan 2022, 3:16 am

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Democratic politicians never ever rejected election results.


Does the name Stacey Abrams ring a bell?

I don't have the energy to respond to false equivalences.


What's false? You made a definitive claim that Democratic politicians never ever rejected election results, and I named one who very famously did, who as far as I know is still claiming to have won her election. I can name others if you like, there are plenty of examples over the years, but if you're just going to brush aside inconvenient facts when they contradict your statements it doesn't seem like a good use of my time.

This is dumb.



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27 Jan 2022, 3:21 am

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But why have teams at all though, in politics? Why not just have a system where people elect individuals with no political party ties, and that way, we can avoid this cheer-leader-ish sportsman like contest in the culture?

That isn't what it's really about though. People have real differences regarding policy and ideology. The parties conform to this.



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27 Jan 2022, 3:53 am

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A lot of Democrats will say one thing then do something completely different once in office. The left doesn't feel like they have actual broad representation.


It's exactly the same on the right, there's a big chunk of the base that feels repeatedly misled by the mainstream GOP, and hates "RINOs" with just as much intensity as they hate Democrats. This is another factor in the popularity of Trump, his willingness to break with GOP orthodoxy was seen as a breath of fresh air by many on the right.


The Republican party is way more responsive to it's base than the Democratic party is. I realize that Trump was seen as different in 2016, but it was because he was willing to say whatever to blow smoke up people's ass, and somehow they were stupid enough to believe him. He also glommed on to a rising xenophobia that the rest of the GOP shied away from at the time but now embraces.



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27 Jan 2022, 4:39 am

I have put it down to 2 things. ignorance, and narcissism. Trump is a huge narcissist. and he seems to attract people who are alike in views, and actions. which from my point of view, is allot of americans. Scary.



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27 Jan 2022, 7:57 am

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This is dumb.


That you made an easily disproved claim and are refusing to back down rather than admit the mistake? I agree, that's pretty dumb.


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27 Jan 2022, 8:48 am

Trust me: if the Democrats would have cried "fraud" after the 2016 election, they wouldn't have been taken seriously, and would even have been taken for being conspiracy-theory nutters.

Even in the absence of any action that remotely resembled the 1/6/2021 riot inside and outside the Capitol Building.



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27 Jan 2022, 12:13 pm

One thing I don't understand is, why does Trump ever wear a suit? Surely a true man of the people would never wear that badge of conformity? I can understand him having short hair, because old men usually have to do that to hide the fact that their hair has lost its condition and they don't want to look like losers. And he compromises a bit there, having it a bit longer than most and with a lot of oil on it so he can do his comb-over and so that he'll look a little bit like Elvis unless he's outside on a windy day. But the suit is a bit of a mystery to me. Is it a condition of the job?



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27 Jan 2022, 4:27 pm

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One thing I don't understand is, why does Trump ever wear a suit?


He styles himself a business mogul, and the suit is the costume for that role, right down to the extra long power tie.


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27 Jan 2022, 4:33 pm

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Why do the majority of American voters want someone who has attempted a coup against Congress, for president?

I don't understand this.

Biden may have his flaws, but Trump has even more. So why is Biden in more trouble than Trump?


I like Trump and I voted for him twice and here is why we like him

1. He has a very strong personality and motivation
2. He says what he means and means what he says.
3. He gets the job done
4. He gets along very well with global leaders around the world.
5. He stands for religious freedom
6. He's was right about building that border wall in the first place
7. He pulled our troops out of the Middle-East
8. He has a love for Israel and the Jewish people



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27 Jan 2022, 7:21 pm

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Trust me: if the Democrats would have cried "fraud" after the 2016 election, they wouldn't have been taken seriously, and would even have been taken for being conspiracy-theory nutters..


What I remember the democrats were taken seriously when it came to Russian collusion and came within a hair's breadth of indictment against Trump. That was hardly a "nutjob theory". Many in the intelligence agencies suspected Putin's hand in Trump's ascendency.



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27 Jan 2022, 7:44 pm

The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


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27 Jan 2022, 7:54 pm

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The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


My point was it was taken more seriously by lawmakers than election fraud.



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27 Jan 2022, 8:00 pm

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The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


My point was it was taken more seriously by lawmakers than election fraud.


Yeah, unfortunately it was. The MSM has a decidedly Democratic Party bias. And the mindless drones who sucked that s**t up are no better than the right wingers.


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27 Jan 2022, 8:11 pm

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The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


My point was it was taken more seriously by lawmakers than election fraud.


Yeah, unfortunately it was. The MSM has a decidedly Democratic Party bias. And the mindless drones who sucked that s**t up are no better than the right wingers.


Are you suggesting that US lawmakers and intelligence agencies are corrupt and pro-left?



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27 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm

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The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


My point was it was taken more seriously by lawmakers than election fraud.


Yeah, unfortunately it was. The MSM has a decidedly Democratic Party bias. And the mindless drones who sucked that s**t up are no better than the right wingers.


Are you suggesting that US lawmakers and intelligence agencies are corrupt and pro-left?


They're pro-corporate state. That's what you don't seen to grasp. Of course they're corrupt! Duh!


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27 Jan 2022, 8:23 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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The Russiagate malarkey was every bit as evidence-free as election fraud. Same s**t, different toilet.


My point was it was taken more seriously by lawmakers than election fraud.


Yeah, unfortunately it was. The MSM has a decidedly Democratic Party bias. And the mindless drones who sucked that s**t up are no better than the right wingers.


Are you suggesting that US lawmakers and intelligence agencies are corrupt and pro-left?


They're pro-corporate state. That's what you don't seen to grasp. Of course they're corrupt! Duh!


No its the "pro-left" bit I don't buy