911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl

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Really...?

Then why haven't any 911 Consipiracists been able to secure the benisons of experts who are both reputable and relevant to their field of inquiry? Why does any expert who is both reputable and relevant to the field of inquiry side with the official NIST report? Why can't the 911 Conspiracists get their evidence review in a legally-constituted court of law, instead of having to rely solely upon "Trial By Blogging"?

When are the 911 Conspiracists going to have their day in court?

Im sorry I can't tell if that was a compliment or not.. Ill assume it's not. But thanks *confused*

Do you really want the "911 conspiracists" to have a day in court?

Have you heard of something called Martial Law? Have you heard of the way the police are going in the States lately?.. Have you heard of the intimidation from the government..?

Anybody who risks something like that is risking their life nowadays.. Cops go raiding in peoples homes of people who 'might' be joining a peace rally or demonstration.. they come in with their machine guns and firearms, and make everyone lay down on the floor with guns to their heads, because the government is SO afraid of the 60's happening again.. If you dont recall similar events in the 60's, there was a lot of peace rallying, which of course is SUCH a threat to any government that really wants peace in the world.

Another reason "911 conspiracists" dont go take it to the courts is because that doesn't even make sense... how can anybody take the government to court?.. it just seems to be there is a slight case of shortsightedness required to side with the government so matter-of-factly and treat "911 conspiracists" as if they are nothing but raving loons.. "911 conspiracists" are mostly regular people who have a life to live and cant take a year off work to go chasing the government and end up nowhere.. and people like Alex Jones who IS doing everything he can, gets ridiculed by people like you, therefore isn't considered good enough material because he's just a regular guy.. not somebody who works for the government and therefore someone who's opinion really matters..

You want real scientists talking about building collapses and all of this stuff?.. just look it up yourself.. and dont act like you're some authority figure who needs convincing.

Good questions. I can only add what I am currently aware of.

why haven't any 911 Consipiracists been able to secure the benisons of experts who are both reputable and relevant to their field of inquiry? -http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html

Why does any expert who is both reputable and relevant to the field of inquiry side with the official NIST report? - See above

Why can't the 911 Conspiracists get their evidence review in a legally-constituted court of law, instead of having to rely solely upon "Trial By Blogging"? - Good Question

because people only rely on the media for answeres. It doesn't seem to be a huge issue for a "Conspiracist" like me, because I recall seeing such things, but If i DID post some scientist talking about anything like that, my impression is that it would be considered nothing more than opinion.. if it's not on paper with a golden stamp on it, it doesn't count, so why bother trying to convince people, it will never be enough.. i focus on the bigger agenda.. usually people who will choose to believe will base it on that alone, and everyone else will need more than convincing.. or no one rememberes 'seeing' evidence even though it's always being shared.. shared, and ignored, shared, and forgotten..



and who's that, the Popular Mechanics guys?.. anyone who wasn't on tv?..



Im sure a government that attacks its own country will not have control over the courts.. no one can go head to head with the government, they have thousands of willing men ready to defend them on their payroll, and who are we but slaves that have to make a living..

This assumes incompetence is not planned and they haven't any experience in knowing the psychology of the human mind and how people judge information, there are flaws in how people perceive, interpret and judge information that can be used quite well to deceive because most people don't have the time to do the serious research. The bush adminstration were just the fall people for some other organization of rich people for their financial interests, etc. It's been that way throughout history, the rich kill everyone they deem "inferior" or in their way.

All a conspiracy is, is a bunch of people agreeing to get together to commit a crime, that's it. Most people don't think what-so-ever, they believe whatever pablem they are told. Images can be doctored, video can be edited. you can buy credible experts, or indoctrinate an entire generation through school to think in a particular way through mass media and not teaching them how to think or question what they are seeing. If you keep up with professional imaging industry experts know that if an expert manipulated the image it they could pass it off as genuine, it's gotten to the point where reality can be blurred quite easily if you were not there, or there is not a multiplicity of video/pictures from peopls personal phones, cameras, etc. Personally I think we should have a public sattelite network no one can hack into to record events, thereby giving hitsorians access to what actually occured and not the BS experts and other rich people can omit from history books and whatnot.

I'm not saying 9/11 was an inside job but it certainly was damn suspicious that one of the most mightly military powers in the world did not intercept a high jacked plane immediately when it went off / lost contact with the pilots, not to mention building 7's destruction with all the records in and of itself was also highly suspicious.

Not to mention Osama bin laden was funded by the US government.... so really I have to wonder how they 'didn't know', personally I think it went down like this:

1) US incites terrorism on purpose
2) US leaves door open
3) Terrorists come and crash planes
4) US knows they are coming but doesn't do anything about it.

Thats what I think happened personally, it doesn't require any kind of conspiracy theory either, and it's the simplest explanation of all when you consider that the planes were not shot down on sight upon deviation.

Welcome ZakFiend!

Experts don't mean s**t, they are frequently wrong... if you don't think so you need to look at the history of mathematics, specifically George Cantor.

I was complimenting you, sorry for the confusion.

Does anyone else think that this should be a national day of mourning and remembrance? I do. Only if to guarantee that those who come after us will not forget. I know most things fade with time and that history is often written by those who seek to control it, though In my opinion, we have a responsibility to determine what really happened. 7 years ago, wow, it seems like yesterday.

Let's keep this thread alive until September 11!

An expert will go into a study and come out with many facts, but a wise man will go in and come out with many questions..
The closer you get to reality, the fewer facts you will find, for there are acceptions to every rule..

Oh, well thanks!

you're pretty by the way Nice to Meet you

Experts are less wrong and less frequently wrong than the rest of the world (especially 911 Conspiracists) - that's what makes them experts.

Besides, George Cantor - mathematician and the creator of set theory - has been dead for 90 years, so he has nothing to do with the events of September 11, 2001.

911 Conspiracy Theory is self-serving.

Mathematics is self-correcting.

Man you really need to go read history, experts have been wrong time and time again throughout history. They constantly make mistakes, all the time!



None of what you said has anything to do with the fact experts are frequently wrong, experts have enough information to do their job. Just look at the history of medicine or the history of psychiatry over the last 100 years, looking back those people looked almost quack like, the truth is that's how experts are today, they just can get away with hiding behind status and their own bs because few people have the time to learn what is necessary to call them on it.

None of what you say has any bearing on whether the experts who debunk the 911 Conspiracists' "Government Did It" version are right or wrong.

In any given situation, one expert may be very wrong, two experts are less wrong, and even more experts drive down the error rate as far as it can go. This is because experts practice something called "Peer Group Review", wherein experts of the same discipline check each other's work and correct each other's errors.

The "Government Did It" type of 911 Conspiracist has no such check-and-correct system in place. The are the Luddites of intellectual expertise.

Conspiracists are self-serving.
Expertise is self-correcting.

I'd trust one fallible expert over scores of blathering Luddites any day.