Criticize Islam!

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This thread has taken quite the interesting turn. I know nothing of satanism so I am confused. I have always thought a satanist worshiped satan. It would stand to reason, one would have to believe in God to believe in satan, and vice versa. So, how does an atheist worship satan?

Lavey teaches atheistic Satanism, in which you basically worship yourself, not Satan. They do however refer to their beliefs as the only "real" Satanism, and ignorently considers all other forms "silly devil worhsip". In fact Satan is not a jewish creation, he is the "god with thousands of names" he made himself known in one way or another in nearly all human religions, in the past present and future, even before the jude. The goetic gods are more commonly known as "the gods of the universe", and others can be used to protray them.

I wonder if people there still think that the freemasons are satanists. My dad is a former mason. xD

Without wanting to go off topic, but I did my thesis on satanism (purely out of interest, may it be clear) and in my opinion it is the silliest thing in the whole religious spectrum. As pointed, Satanists who follow the doctrines of LaVey do not believe in demons or angels or gods, they just revolt against religions by sort of twisting the religious values inside out. That is fine, but for those who dont believe in gods, there is atheism. Satanism is just stupid by its whole setup, naming your cult after a creature you dont believe in and forming a cult as a way to revolt against existing cults: this is just hypocrite, highly inconsistent and gives the impression of the young teenager revolting against authority. Satanism in the LaVey interpretation, is plain stupid IMO.

I agree, which is why I started it when I was 14, and stopped when I grew up

It started with me when I was 16 and ended one month later. ^^

I agree, I've got nothing against revolting against religion but 'satan' is a pretty misleading title.

For those who want to make a loud statement, Satan can be a powerful choice of symbol. It's something most believers don't take lightly, and lends itself to some good arguments concerning free choice and human autonomy. Just like Buddhism is not about worshiping Buddha but following his example, Satanism may be said to be a path of joining Satan (if only metaphorically) in his rebellion against all divine authority.

Islam is sexist. They also spent the whole middle ages carefully preserving Greek ideas just to totally dump them over some thing they have with Israel.

There. I criticized Islam.

No, they dumped them after a scholar named Abu Hamid al-Ghazali wrote against causality and logic, because, according to him, ascribing laws to nature limited God's freedom. From that point started the decline of Islamic sciences.

It is a human right to criticize ANY religion, be it islam or christianity. Without such a right, there is no human rights and no democracy.

Allthough freedom of speech is for all human beings, it's not an amnesty against criticism. If a person calls all muslims sand n****rs and attacks the qur'an with straw men, the freedom of speech gives me every right to say my opinion about this a**hole.

Some of them do. Can you say Dominionism?

And even the ones that don't are still happy to persecute the people mentioned in these laws. I've been there, having identified as Wiccan at a time in the late 80s when so-called 'satanic ritual abuse' led to MPs trying to get our religion made illegal in the UK. Nothing came of it, but we learned just how despicable some people are willing to be in the name of their precious rules. Blatant lies were told in the press and in Parliament by people who wouldn't even bring themselves to read a book by a Wiccan author. Smear campaigns led to some people having to close down stores and move homes, and many people were terrified that their children would be taken away.

The Old Testament texts were thrown around wholesale as justification for all this.

Either those rules still apply, or they don't. Either certain groups deserve death, or they deserve to be left alone to get on with their lives in peace and follow their own beliefs as secular law allows.

I wish they'd make their minds up. At least if they brought back stoning, the rest of us would all know where we stood...

Christianity and any society founded on its principles will never approve of witchcraft. That is a fact.

But how many European / North American societies were founded on Christianity? Sure, they were historically Christian, but the Magna Carta and the US Constitution are not about Christianity. The United States was founded on the idea of freedom of religion.

You can't criticize various implementations of Islam for outlawing and repressing other religions, and then coherently defend various implementations of Christianity that do the same.

See my above statement.