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14 May 2017, 8:11 am

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..that the Russians somehow rigged our elections which is so laughable it's hard to take seriously.

Uhh ... everyone admits now that the Russians took steps to influence the American election. They've done the same thing in other countries.


Ugh, like how? By retweeting stories they didn't like? That's a complete joke. Find real evidence.

There is no evidence tying Russia to anything tho, just vague insinuations and purposefully misleading people into believing Russia meddled with the vote totals. All on unnamed unverified probably made up sources. Do you even know what your insinuating at this point or is just some ridiculous BS about 'unknown unknowns' and that we need to investigate.



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14 May 2017, 9:09 am

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Little Hitler fires another one.

Kim Jong-Un fires ANOTHER ballistic missile that lands 60 miles from RUSSIA - after months of threatening Trump with nuclear war and days after a new president took office in South Korea

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymai ... itary.html

Lil'Kim has E.D. and compensates by firing a lot of missiles.It makes him feel manly and strong.


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14 May 2017, 2:18 pm

Jacoby wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
..that the Russians somehow rigged our elections which is so laughable it's hard to take seriously.

Uhh ... everyone admits now that the Russians took steps to influence the American election. They've done the same thing in other countries.


Ugh, like how? By retweeting stories they didn't like? That's a complete joke. Find real evidence.

There is no evidence tying Russia to anything tho, just vague insinuations and purposefully misleading people into believing Russia meddled with the vote totals. All on unnamed unverified probably made up sources. Do you even know what your insinuating at this point or is just some ridiculous BS about 'unknown unknowns' and that we need to investigate.

I'm curious what would constitute 'real evidence.' It's become a talking point without a point. What evidence would you accept as real?


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14 May 2017, 2:33 pm

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“We were not informed by the Russians that their official photographer was dual-hatted and would be releasing the photographs on the state news agency,” the administration official said.

As a result, White House officials said they were surprised to see photos posted online showing Trump not only with Lavrov but also smiling and shaking hands with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.


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14 May 2017, 2:35 pm

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androbot01 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
..that the Russians somehow rigged our elections which is so laughable it's hard to take seriously.

Uhh ... everyone admits now that the Russians took steps to influence the American election. They've done the same thing in other countries.


Ugh, like how? By retweeting stories they didn't like? That's a complete joke. Find real evidence.

There is no evidence tying Russia to anything tho, just vague insinuations and purposefully misleading people into believing Russia meddled with the vote totals. All on unnamed unverified probably made up sources. Do you even know what your insinuating at this point or is just some ridiculous BS about 'unknown unknowns' and that we need to investigate.

I'm curious what would constitute 'real evidence.' It's become a talking point without a point. What evidence would you accept as real?


Evidence that they directly altered the vote count or at least evidence beyond just SOMEONE WITH AN ASSOCIATION WITH TRUMP WAS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS A RUSSIAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Simply put, it's not a crime to want good relations with Russia and discussing sanctions would be totally appropriate. Praying some 'unknown unknown' is going to end Trump's presidency is just pathetic and shows an inability by so many to accept a loss with any sort of grace.



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14 May 2017, 2:47 pm

Feel-good story of the week:

"When students from Charlotte’s Victory Christian Center School decided to revive a rocketry team tradition of naming their rockets, one of the groups christened their rocket Trump.

"And if there’s anyone who likes seeing his name on things, it’s the president. So when the team went to Washington, D.C., on Friday to get ready for the national competition, they ended up showing their entry to President Donald Trump in the Oval Office."

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/l ... 42997.html


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14 May 2017, 2:50 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
..that the Russians somehow rigged our elections which is so laughable it's hard to take seriously.

Uhh ... everyone admits now that the Russians took steps to influence the American election. They've done the same thing in other countries.


Ugh, like how? By retweeting stories they didn't like? That's a complete joke. Find real evidence.

There is no evidence tying Russia to anything tho, just vague insinuations and purposefully misleading people into believing Russia meddled with the vote totals. All on unnamed unverified probably made up sources. Do you even know what your insinuating at this point or is just some ridiculous BS about 'unknown unknowns' and that we need to investigate.

I'm curious what would constitute 'real evidence.' It's become a talking point without a point. What evidence would you accept as real?


Evidence that they directly altered the vote count or at least evidence beyond just SOMEONE WITH AN ASSOCIATION WITH TRUMP WAS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS A RUSSIAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Simply put, it's not a crime to want good relations with Russia and discussing sanctions would be totally appropriate. Praying some 'unknown unknown' is going to end Trump's presidency is just pathetic and shows an inability by so many to accept a loss with any sort of grace.

Again, you mostly lay your preconceptions on your imaginary opponents. I ask what evidence you will accept, and you only reply that you need some unspecified evidence that goes to a different charge. No one is saying vote counts were altered, okay?

Rex Tillerson said today that Russia interfered in our election. Does that indicate the existence of sufficient evidence that Russia interfered in our election or not?


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14 May 2017, 2:56 pm

Simple, direct questions seem to get nowhere these days. Trump was asked if he had connections to Russia, and said no. Then, evidence of connections emerged and it appears further evidence exists in his tax returns. Several of his appointees have been asked if they met with Russian officials during the campaign, or if they worked for foreign interests, and they said no. Then, evidence of meetings emerged, and it appears that further evidence has been concealed.

No one accepts them saying, "Okay, but it's not like that." Just answer the darn questions honestly in the first place, or else stoke suspicion. If there's a cover-up, or the appearance of a cover-up, then people will legitimately wonder what is being covered up!


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14 May 2017, 3:05 pm

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Again, you mostly lay your preconceptions on your imaginary opponents. I ask what evidence you will accept, and you only reply that you need some unspecified evidence that goes to a different charge. No one is saying vote counts were altered, okay?

Rex Tillerson said today that Russia interfered in our election. Does that indicate the existence of sufficient evidence that Russia interfered in our election or not?


The current 'charge' is nonsensical, a vague insinuation about unknown unknowns. A witchhunt. There has never been any evidence presented, nothing has been clarified, it's only anti-Russian hysteria from booty blasted Democrats and Neocon psychos. What do you think Russia actually did? It's such a pathetic loser excuse.



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14 May 2017, 3:23 pm

Doesn't make it not true, just take the L and stop repeating this ridiculous big lie. Democrats will NEVER regain power in this country if they themselves cannot look in the mirror.

Did you even read the article or do you just look at headlines? Trump's "business dealings" with Russia have long been known which was $12M for hosting Ms. Universe in Moscow and then when he sold a mansion in Florida to somebody that HAPPENED to be Russian.

You are worse than birther or 9/11 truthers, totally delusional and have no idea what you are even accusing people of. No facts, no nothing except crybaby tears. At least those conspiracies were semi-coherent in their implications, do you seriously believe that Trump won because he's some sort of Manchurian Candidate for Russia? Really? If you do you're straight up an idiot, I'm sorry. Stop letting your hatred of the man cloud your judgement and sanity. The conspiracy is what, Russia gave him money so he could fund his campaign on shoe string budget against $2B+ campaign against him with a compromised press acting under the orders of the DNC? Don't make a lot of logical sense does it?



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14 May 2017, 5:26 pm

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Again, you mostly lay your preconceptions on your imaginary opponents. I ask what evidence you will accept, and you only reply that you need some unspecified evidence that goes to a different charge. No one is saying vote counts were altered, okay?

Rex Tillerson said today that Russia interfered in our election. Does that indicate the existence of sufficient evidence that Russia interfered in our election or not?


The current 'charge' is nonsensical, a vague insinuation about unknown unknowns. A witchhunt. There has never been any evidence presented, nothing has been clarified, it's only anti-Russian hysteria from booty blasted Democrats and Neocon psychos. What do you think Russia actually did? It's such a pathetic loser excuse.

My charge (since you fail to specify literally anything in response to my simple questions) is that there is a cover up. Something illegal, unethical, deceptive, or embarrassing happened between the Trump campaign and Russia, and they are lying to cover it up. Obviously, there is a cover up. I suspect active coordination between Russia and people directly employed or authorized by the campaign, but my only charges consist of what people have repeatedly admitted. Admitted, that is, after trying to cover it up.


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14 May 2017, 5:36 pm

You are making wild leaps to conclusions based on nothing, your argument boils down to it boils down to 'unknown unknowns' and since you hate Trump so much he has to be guilty in your mind. Relations with Russia still not illegal.



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14 May 2017, 5:37 pm

Not in any reasonable sense. I simply expect more of what we've already seen, and worse.


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14 May 2017, 5:41 pm

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Not in any reasonable sense. I simply expect more of what we've already seen, and worse.



You hope there is more, it's wishful thinking. Find something actually illegal or even concerning, I laid out what I think would be significant enough to match the rhetoric the Democrats are using right now but I'm not counting on that being proven since its laughable to even suggest.



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14 May 2017, 5:53 pm

Well, lying under oath about political activities seems pretty serious to me. That has happened. If more of those lies pile up, it would get serious enough to turn the House over to the Democrats. Only at that point can I take the idea of impeachment seriously.

I thought it would be funnier, watching the strongman's slavish followers tire of doing backflips to believe his lies. Instead, I just see more viciousness toward others as the cognitive dissonance piles up.


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