01 Mar 2011, 7:13 am
StevieC wrote:
murphycop wrote:
StevieC wrote:
murphycop wrote:
There is only one other, apart from the women's forum, that i've also complained about. So you're comparing sexuality and gender with tourettes and mental illness?
so thats one other, the womens forum and the LGBT forum you've comlpained about.
and no, daily heil readers are the worst. they dont just complain, they want to ban everything that doesn't fit with their narrow world view.
Is it an aspie left wing trait to be a massive hypocrite, but not being able to see it, cause of, lack of self awareness? You should read a left wing paper, without a narrow minded view. They want to ban anyone with an opinion thats to the right. I read the daily mirror mostly, not for the political views. But it can be funny to see such hypocrisy. On one page they'll have a story about a family who've never worked, claiming housing benefits and child benefits. Then on the next page, they'll be crying about the cuts on child and house benefits. If the fact that I can see things from your side, but don't agree with you makes me narrow minded. But you refuse to see things from my side, what does that make you?
i am not left wing, in fact i'm closer to center-libertarian than anything
on one page of the daily heil, they whinge on about falling standards of morals, and how "teh gays" are runing marriage, then on the other page they glorify girls in low cut tops with boob jobs and Mr z-list celebrity X's 6-hour marriage etc... and every other story is about a sodding wheelie bin and how they dont want to recycle and be selfish etc etc etc.
i do see things from your side: you dont want the lgbt forum but are not lgbt yourself; i.e. you're a bigot.
Did I say anywhere that the daily mail wasn't a mess? All the papers are. Especially far right and far left. Its funny that the daily mail is as far right as we go in this country. You ought to live in some countries.
You obviously don't, and just proved that again. So by your standards, someone who is a lgbt, and wants a lgbt forum is a bigot? Or is it only when someone doesn't want something. Like if someone doesn't want a men's forum or a straight forum?
01 Mar 2011, 7:14 am
murphycop wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
murphycop wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Ok see how difficult it can be, when people take everything literally!? I know its an aspie trait, so I should be more sympathetic. Who is them? Like i've said, they want to be normal, then they shouldn't request to be treated differently, and then actually get their demands, cause they have a card to play.
you do not want anything for yourself you just want to take the LGBT group from them?
if this is the them you are refering to the them it a pronoun used to avoid the construction ... take the LGBT group from the members of the LGBT group.
is it the lack of symmetry that bothers you? things like that bug the hell of of me.
it helps me to think of it as an ad hoc construction rather than a masterplan.
-Jake
But who are they? They want to be seen as normal people, thats my point.
Why are you so threatened by abnormality? There's nothing wrong with being abnormal and nothing wrong with people who don't assimilate to your world view, or to generic culture at large. You want to blame minorities and "political correctness gawn mad" for all your problems. Nothing makes you happier than when you read that a Black or Asian person has also complained about the influx of foreigners. Because then they have assimilated to the idiotic mores of the British masses. You want everyone marching in lockstep and are threatened by people or ideas that you don't understand.
I'm the one thats abnormal, as I have a different view from the majority, quite obviously. Why are you so threatened by abnormality? You're the one jumping straight in with personal attacks. You continue to prove my point. You are saying that being gay or transexual is abnormal, nice. Political correctness has gawn mad, I don't want to blame it for all my problems. But the fact you can be racist in society if you're not white, and sexist if you're not male, is kind of annoying. Not cause I want to be racist or sexist. I just believe in things working both ways, fairly. I won't expect you to understand this. Thats bull, nothing makes you angrier than a Black or Asian person has complained about the influx of foreigners, cause it takes away your complete "wacissm" argument. I'm not threatened by things I don't understand, I welcome them
I'm left frustrated by people who wouldn't know what double standards were or what hypocrisy was if they went and studied them on their favourite site, wikpedia, for a month straight.Your problem is you that you don't know what a power differential is. Thats why you see Feminism and anti- Feminism as the same, Racism and anti racism as the same, homophobia and gay rights as the same ad infinitum.
If you spent as much time reading wikipedia as you did the 3 am girls you might learn something.
I suggest starting here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_theory
then moving on to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_theory
and finally here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory
As far as i can see you're not in a minority or under attack at all. In the Uk anti immigrant sentiment is widespread, the attitude that political correctness has gawn mad is widespread, violent attacks on gays still occur frequently. I'm sure you'd find plenty of blokes down the pub who'd agree with you about uppity feminists and if all else fails you can just join the EDL.
01 Mar 2011, 7:21 am
01 Mar 2011, 7:33 am
jamieboy wrote:
murphycop wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
murphycop wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Ok see how difficult it can be, when people take everything literally!? I know its an aspie trait, so I should be more sympathetic. Who is them? Like i've said, they want to be normal, then they shouldn't request to be treated differently, and then actually get their demands, cause they have a card to play.
you do not want anything for yourself you just want to take the LGBT group from them?
if this is the them you are refering to the them it a pronoun used to avoid the construction ... take the LGBT group from the members of the LGBT group.
is it the lack of symmetry that bothers you? things like that bug the hell of of me.
it helps me to think of it as an ad hoc construction rather than a masterplan.
-Jake
But who are they? They want to be seen as normal people, thats my point.
Why are you so threatened by abnormality? There's nothing wrong with being abnormal and nothing wrong with people who don't assimilate to your world view, or to generic culture at large. You want to blame minorities and "political correctness gawn mad" for all your problems. Nothing makes you happier than when you read that a Black or Asian person has also complained about the influx of foreigners. Because then they have assimilated to the idiotic mores of the British masses. You want everyone marching in lockstep and are threatened by people or ideas that you don't understand.
I'm the one thats abnormal, as I have a different view from the majority, quite obviously. Why are you so threatened by abnormality? You're the one jumping straight in with personal attacks. You continue to prove my point. You are saying that being gay or transexual is abnormal, nice. Political correctness has gawn mad, I don't want to blame it for all my problems. But the fact you can be racist in society if you're not white, and sexist if you're not male, is kind of annoying. Not cause I want to be racist or sexist. I just believe in things working both ways, fairly. I won't expect you to understand this. Thats bull, nothing makes you angrier than a Black or Asian person has complained about the influx of foreigners, cause it takes away your complete "wacissm" argument. I'm not threatened by things I don't understand, I welcome them
I'm left frustrated by people who wouldn't know what double standards were or what hypocrisy was if they went and studied them on their favourite site, wikpedia, for a month straight.Your problem is you that you don't know what a power differential is. Thats why you see Feminism and anti- Feminism as the same, Racism and anti racism as the same, homophobia and gay rights as the same ad infinitum.
If you spent as much time reading wikipedia as you did the 3 am girls you might learn something.
I suggest starting here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_theory
then moving on to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_theory
and finally here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory
As far as i can see you're not in a minority or under attack at all. In the Uk anti immigrant sentiment is widespread, the attitude that political correctness has gawn mad is widespread, violent attacks on gays still occur frequently. I'm sure you'd find plenty of blokes down the pub who'd agree with you about uppity feminists and if all else fails you can just join the EDL.
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake. Haha, I think its you who sees them as all the same, silly boy.
Thanks again for proving my points about your views. You make my life easy. Anyone with an ounce of common sense could see political correctness has gone mad. Maybe tell AceOfSpades he might have to change his name to AceOfDiggingtools/groupofplayingcards soon. Its up to you to fix your ignorance, double standards and hypocrisy. I know that stuff still happens. Underage white girls are getting gang raped by Muslims regularly in Blackburn, does that make underage white girls a minority? You're right though, I don't like male or female femminists. They need to get out more. And your ignorance and one dimensional mind is shown further, by your silly assumptions that I must be a pub regular, or homophobic, or racist etc. I have gay friends as well as coloured friends. You obviously know sod all about EDL either, just what your selected media tells you.
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01 Mar 2011, 7:41 am
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
01 Mar 2011, 7:45 am
01 Mar 2011, 7:49 am
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
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01 Mar 2011, 8:07 am
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
"Common sense" meaning "whatever Murphycop thinks", I'm guessing?
01 Mar 2011, 8:14 am
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
"Common sense" meaning "whatever Murphycop thinks", I'm guessing?
Look "common sense" up on wikpedia
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01 Mar 2011, 9:04 am
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
"Common sense" meaning "whatever Murphycop thinks", I'm guessing?
Look "common sense" up on wikpedia
Straight and NonTransexual forum topic
By Jove I think he's got it!
Here! Though you are the only poster. 
01 Mar 2011, 9:31 am
sartresue wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
"Common sense" meaning "whatever Murphycop thinks", I'm guessing?
Look "common sense" up on wikpedia
Straight and NonTransexual forum topic
By Jove I think he's got it!
Here! Though you are the only poster. I'm the minowwitty, thats getting abuuzzed now, Ironic
01 Mar 2011, 10:00 am
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
Your OP on this thread is a valiant strike AGAINST the tyranny of "common sense".
So dont switch sides in your own thread!
Listen: point number one: the only subforums in which sexual orientation has any relevence are the dating, adult, and romance sections.
Point two: The existence of a seperate forum for Gays, transexuals, etc has two effects. It gives those groups their own space to discuss their concerns, and it siphons them off from the rest of the site. So in effect the existence of a subforum for "the sexually nonstandard" insures that the rest of the site IS a forum for the sexually straight. Thus you can go on the dating forum and safely assume that the folks you are talking to are heterosexuals concerened about heterosexual issues because those folks who are not the hetereosexual norm presumably are all on their own seperate forum. So I dont know what you're complaining about.
Further- if one were to use your "logic" the whole Wrong Planet site itsself would be shut down because (by your logic) it descriminates against the neurotypical.
Why should folks like you and I who are on the spectrum get our own websites?Why are we given more rights than normal folks?
If your gonna crusade for the rights of the oppressed normal hetereosexuals why dont you also crusade for the rights of the oppressed neurotypicals of the world as well?
01 Mar 2011, 10:22 am
naturalplastic wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Bethie wrote:
murphycop wrote:
See thats your problem, you get all your views from online and what you read. Big mistake.
Not everyone is a conspiracy theorist.
Not all aspies have agraphobia.
Common sense can't be taught via wikpedia. I go out and see the world, and speak to people with experience, and people who've been educated by things other than wikpedia.
Your OP on this thread is a valiant strike AGAINST the tyranny of "common sense".
So dont switch sides in your own thread!
Listen: point number one: the only subforums in which sexual orientation has any relevence are the dating, adult, and romance sections.
Point two: The existence of a seperate forum for Gays, transexuals, etc has two effects. It gives those groups their own space to discuss their concerns, and it siphons them off from the rest of the site. So in effect the existence of a subforum for "the sexually nonstandard" insures that the rest of the site IS a forum for the sexually straight. Thus you can go on the dating forum and safely assume that the folks you are talking to are heterosexuals concerened about heterosexual issues because those folks who are not the hetereosexual norm presumably are all on their own seperate forum. So I dont know what you're complaining about.
Further- if one were to use your "logic" the whole Wrong Planet site itsself would be shut down because (by your logic) it descriminates against the neurotypical.
Why should folks like you and I who are on the spectrum get our own websites?Why are we given more rights than normal folks?
If your gonna crusade for the rights of the oppressed normal hetereosexuals why dont you also crusade for the rights of the oppressed neurotypicals of the world as well?
All i'll say is- Listen to yourself/or read what you've written. Again, another person who links autism with transexuals and homosexuals, outreageous. Please try not to lecture me on common sense.
I did say in my OP that some clone would come along with "the rest of the forums are for straight people" etc. Another invalid argument. Well especially in the unbelievably hopeless way you've attempted to explain it. So with your logic, the dating forum could be renamed "the straight dating forum".
01 Mar 2011, 10:23 am
01 Mar 2011, 10:31 am
MidlifeAspie wrote:
I'm going to step in now and state, just so everyone is clear, that mocking each other can be considered a personal attack. Argue the merits of the questions, not each other.
Thank you
Thank you
Its hard to keep up with all these innocent people attacking me, and trying to force me to think like them. Sounds like they're actually doing, what they are attacking me for
It can be a fine line between attacking someone's beliefs and attacking someone personally.
