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30 Mar 2011, 12:23 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

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Inuyasha, could you even produce the level of documentation of your citizenship that the Birthers demand of Obama? I couldn't, and my family's been here since before the Revolution.

Yes, I actually could produce the documentation to prove my citizenship, I actually had to provide that information to get.

1. First a learner's permit
2. State ID
3. Learner's Permit again
4. Driver's license (finally)

I also had to provide that information to get hired at my part-time job (granted I didn't need my birth certificate). I also needed the documentation in question for my internship at Goddard Space Flight Center. So in all honesty, what the "birthers" are asking for is perfectly reasonable.

Um... I have all those as well, and none of them required the long form birth certificate that the Birther idiots are demanding. The papers that Obama has presented, and which are posted on the Internet for all to see, satisfy the requirements to get a driver's license.

I get the impression that you didn't understand my question at all. Obama has produced documentation of his citizenship, and the Birthers are asking for a different document.

All proof of birth (indicating when, where and to-whom born) are doctor's records or midwife recors. A birth certificate is based on the prior. The mother's sworn and unimpeachable testimony is quite sufficient.

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The is also such thing as the archives, find the newspaper from a day or so after Obama was born and there should be an anouncement in said paper.

[img][800:1360]http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif[/img]
but it must be a fake right

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30 Mar 2011, 12:30 pm

I'm not saying it is or is not a fake, I would like to see the rest of the page, cause it cuts off the name of the paper.

I am wondering why the hell media outlets haven't posted up the paper on their web pages, guess it is cause it would make too much sense.

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30 Mar 2011, 12:35 pm

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

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30 Mar 2011, 12:39 pm

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the name is at the top it is the the sunday advertiser
here is one from the star Bulletin

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30 Mar 2011, 12:50 pm

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

If you look at the voting patterns of most members of the media in addition to certain media talking heads expressing a desire to mate with Obama and have his babies (a little exageration for emphasis on my part), you would discover your statement doesn't even make any sense.

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30 Mar 2011, 1:04 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

is the bold statement the one you can't make sense of?
he is just pointing out you have a bias (its nothing to be ashamed of we all have one.)
thinking the view of the birthers is not mainstream is not a bias it is a fact.
18% of americans are birthers <-- not a majority
rejecting the birther plot is not equivalent to accepting a plot about lizard people.
I myself reject the conspiracy theory of history entirely.
I find it easier to believe people are stupid.

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30 Mar 2011, 1:23 pm

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The news media have constantly reported on the birth announcement. Anderson Cooper even told a birther he was interviewing directly about it. The birthers choose to simply not address the matter.
I take that back - Donald Trump made the ridiculous claim it was placed in the paper days later, solely for social reasons.
I can't wait till he loses the Republican nomination.

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30 Mar 2011, 1:25 pm

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Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? Rolling Eyes

Amused Condescension: Yes, Enya, the Lizard People are coming, meat bag

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30 Mar 2011, 1:28 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

The people who believe the Icke conspiracy stuff are the same as the birthers. I'm just pointing out that there's more material for one to believe in a republican conspiracy theory more than a birther conspiracy theory.

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30 Mar 2011, 1:59 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

saying that fox news is a right-wing outfit with a conservative agenda is not the endorsement a conspiracy theory.
a conspiracy theory requires that there be a plot of which the mainstream is not aware.
this is why conspiracy theorists are obsessed with media bias.

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30 Mar 2011, 7:19 pm

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Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? Rolling Eyes

Amused Condescension: Yes, Enya, the Lizard People are coming, meat bag

Is there some significance to "Enya," other than a new age singer, that I don't know about?

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31 Mar 2011, 12:18 am

JakobVirgil wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

When most of the mainstream media vote Democrat along a party line basis, it isn't hard to figure out that they have a bias.

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31 Mar 2011, 5:11 am

So what if members of the Tea Party are "overwhelmingly white Christians", members of the Democrat Party are often overwhelmingly stupid and terrible with handling money.

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31 Mar 2011, 7:34 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

So what if members of the Tea Party are "overwhelmingly white Christians", members of the Democrat Party are often overwhelmingly stupid and terrible with handling money.

And most of them at least nominally belong to some type of Christian sect.

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31 Mar 2011, 7:39 am

ruveyn wrote:

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So what if members of the Tea Party are "overwhelmingly white Christians", members of the Democrat Party are often overwhelmingly stupid and terrible with handling money.

And most of them at least nominally belong to some type of Christian sect.

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In my opinion nominally is a highly suitable qualifier. "I'm associated with this club, so vote for me!"

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31 Mar 2011, 8:16 am

Inuyasha wrote:

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skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

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Because a conservative conspiracy is what actually exists, not a liberal one. You're just hooked by really crappy bait.

Mocking Query: Are you going to suggest that next the lizard people are invading the world? :roll:

When most of the mainstream media vote Democrat along a party line basis, it isn't hard to figure out that they have a bias.

there you go. saying that the mainstream media anchors are mostly Democratic not a conspiracy. saying the the companies they work for are mostly Republican also not a conspiracy. The center is liberal. The left and right are ideological..

saying that mainstream media is a communist front is conspiracy theory. Saying that mainstream media part of a cover-up of anything is conspiracy theory. bias is inherent but I don't think it overwhelms real content.

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