Rampant issues with feminism....
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
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Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
In the olden days, we had magazines at least.
That wasn't what I asked.
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Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
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Who_Am_I wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Quote:
Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
In the olden days, we had magazines at least.
That wasn't what I asked.
I suppose that the modern feminist standard is that we aren't even supposed to think about women when we masturbate.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Quote:
Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
In the olden days, we had magazines at least.
That wasn't what I asked.
I suppose that the modern feminist standard is that we aren't even supposed to think about women when we masturbate.
Don't be silly, of course you're meant to think about women. You just have to think about us taking over the world while putting your testicles in a vice.
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Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
LKL wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
LKL wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Women do spend huge sums of money on cosmetics, makeup, breast-augmentation surgery, cosmetic surgery, hair styles, hair colours, nails, dresses, accessories, shoes, etc. etc. Some women spend hours preening themselves in the mirror. Many even remove the hair on their legs, armpits, and other bodiy areas. What is the point of all that? Is part of the reason to make themselves attractive to men?
No, "women" do not do that. Some women do that; sometimes it is because they, like a professional football player, won the genetic lottery for the physical attributes considered 'ideal' for their sex, and they can hit the financial jackpot by capitalizing on that; some, because they've internalized the idea that looks are the only way a woman can achieve social status (similar to a male gym rat).
http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_bang_theor ... escalation
Even Amy Farrah Fowler went in for the bikini wax.
because 'the Big Bang Theory' is representative of real people...
(/sarcasm)
Don't most of the ladies here identify with Miss Farrah Fowler? Now that she has done it, you can go ahead a feel compelled to get your bikini wax.
Who_Am_I wrote:
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Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
When it comes to sex, no they don't.
At least not the way women do.
It's pretty well known that, when it comes to sexual arousal, men are far more visually stimulated than women are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women
mds_02 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
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Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
When it comes to sex, no they don't.
At least not the way women do.
It's pretty well known that, when it comes to sexual arousal, men are far more visually stimulated than women are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women
That doesn't equate to "no imagination".
Say a guy has no access to pornography (I'm including both still images and video here).
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
_________________
Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
Who_Am_I wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Quote:
Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
When it comes to sex, no they don't.
At least not the way women do.
It's pretty well known that, when it comes to sexual arousal, men are far more visually stimulated than women are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women
That doesn't equate to "no imagination".
Say a guy has no access to pornography (I'm including both still images and video here).
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
So should women give up those things that provide them with the greatest stimulation because some men are bothered by them?
mds_02 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Quote:
Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
When it comes to sex, no they don't.
At least not the way women do.
It's pretty well known that, when it comes to sexual arousal, men are far more visually stimulated than women are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women
Thanks for link to the highly interesting and relevant articles.
mds_02 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Quote:
Men are supposed to masturbate, but not use pornography? That's ridiculous!
They don't have imaginations?
When it comes to sex, no they don't.
At least not the way women do.
It's pretty well known that, when it comes to sexual arousal, men are far more visually stimulated than women are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women
That doesn't equate to "no imagination".
Say a guy has no access to pornography (I'm including both still images and video here).
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
So should women give up those things that provide them with the greatest stimulation because some men are bothered by them?
Could you please answer the actual question that I asked? I've bolded it so you can find it. It wasn't rhetorical.
I'm not saying that anyone has to give up anything, I'm just wondering what they'd do in the absence of said things.
_________________
Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
...and, one of the articles deals with the angst expressed at the beginning of the discussion
madamehussein wrote:
I have some biblical issues regarding feminism....
During my upbringing, I came to see feminist ideas as the "official" truth, since all authorities and the media seemed to subscribe to it. I tried most my life to live up to the image of what a "good alternative/progressive guy" was supposed to be...
And it turned out it was all for nothing. Not even the girls/women I had admired as role models seemed to like the allaround nice guy I tried to be, the one they'd said they wanted me to be.
So...in short. I looked up to/admired feminists/women, I took everything they said as truth, and THOSE B'TCHES LIED TO ME!! !
I simply can't let it go. It's lika a christian upbringing, you can distance yourself from the religion, but the values are still kinda ingrained in you...
During my upbringing, I came to see feminist ideas as the "official" truth, since all authorities and the media seemed to subscribe to it. I tried most my life to live up to the image of what a "good alternative/progressive guy" was supposed to be...
And it turned out it was all for nothing. Not even the girls/women I had admired as role models seemed to like the allaround nice guy I tried to be, the one they'd said they wanted me to be.
So...in short. I looked up to/admired feminists/women, I took everything they said as truth, and THOSE B'TCHES LIED TO ME!! !
I simply can't let it go. It's lika a christian upbringing, you can distance yourself from the religion, but the values are still kinda ingrained in you...
it is just basic female biology
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... otic-women
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If there’s such a thing as porn for women, it revolves around the romance novel.......although women aren’t willing to pay for such typically male-oriented visual porn, they’re quite happy to pay for the privilege of reading romance fiction. So happy in fact that such erotica actually produces more revenue than does online pornography for men...
The hero in romance novels may be, as Ogas and Gaddam describe him, “virile, dangerous, and lusty” (p. 87), but he’s not reduced to a sex object either—as, so commonly, are women in “adult” fiction for men. In fact, the hero in romances becomes increasingly human—and vulnerable—as the story develops and, unexpectedly, he falls head-over-heels in love with the much more innocent (and less experienced) heroine.
These heroes are virtually always alpha males, to whom a considerable majority of women seem almost magnetically attracted. And romance novels exploit this preference in various ways. It’s not simply the hero’s physical prowess that is so compelling to female readers: it’s also his “status, confidence, and competence” (p. 95). Each of these traits contributes to his overall dominance—and such male authority, or ascendance, is what most women appear hard-wired to be susceptible to, as well as willing to submit to. Ogas and Gaddam, observing that studies have repeatedly demonstrated the erotic appeal of alpha dominance to women—from the sensory cues of the male’s voice, to his scent, to his movement and gait, to his sharply defined facial features...
No coincidence, then, that the ten most popular vocations of the hero—as Ogas and Gaddam’s determined through reviewing the titles of more than 15,000 Harlequin romance novels (!)—are doctor, cowboy, boss, prince, rancher, knight, surgeon, king, bodyguard, and sheriff. Moreover, swaggering alphas aren’t simply natural, born leaders and hyper-confident about their abilities, they’re also fiercely protective. So even though, rationally, contemporary women are less and less in need of a forceful male savior, they still find them immensely attractive as romantic partners.
Inevitably, men have become increasingly aware of this fundamental sexual cue for women, which is what accounts for the Pickup Artist culture made famous (notorious?) by Neil Strauss in his book The Game (2005). The seduction techniques delineated there are contrived (as Ogas and Gaddam put it) “to activate women’s psychological cues in the same way that Botox, collagen, and implants are designed to artificially trigger men’s visual ones.” And the main requirements for successful seduction is, well, to “always be an alpha” (p. 96)...
The hero in romance novels may be, as Ogas and Gaddam describe him, “virile, dangerous, and lusty” (p. 87), but he’s not reduced to a sex object either—as, so commonly, are women in “adult” fiction for men. In fact, the hero in romances becomes increasingly human—and vulnerable—as the story develops and, unexpectedly, he falls head-over-heels in love with the much more innocent (and less experienced) heroine.
These heroes are virtually always alpha males, to whom a considerable majority of women seem almost magnetically attracted. And romance novels exploit this preference in various ways. It’s not simply the hero’s physical prowess that is so compelling to female readers: it’s also his “status, confidence, and competence” (p. 95). Each of these traits contributes to his overall dominance—and such male authority, or ascendance, is what most women appear hard-wired to be susceptible to, as well as willing to submit to. Ogas and Gaddam, observing that studies have repeatedly demonstrated the erotic appeal of alpha dominance to women—from the sensory cues of the male’s voice, to his scent, to his movement and gait, to his sharply defined facial features...
No coincidence, then, that the ten most popular vocations of the hero—as Ogas and Gaddam’s determined through reviewing the titles of more than 15,000 Harlequin romance novels (!)—are doctor, cowboy, boss, prince, rancher, knight, surgeon, king, bodyguard, and sheriff. Moreover, swaggering alphas aren’t simply natural, born leaders and hyper-confident about their abilities, they’re also fiercely protective. So even though, rationally, contemporary women are less and less in need of a forceful male savior, they still find them immensely attractive as romantic partners.
Inevitably, men have become increasingly aware of this fundamental sexual cue for women, which is what accounts for the Pickup Artist culture made famous (notorious?) by Neil Strauss in his book The Game (2005). The seduction techniques delineated there are contrived (as Ogas and Gaddam put it) “to activate women’s psychological cues in the same way that Botox, collagen, and implants are designed to artificially trigger men’s visual ones.” And the main requirements for successful seduction is, well, to “always be an alpha” (p. 96)...
It would appear that feminism is attended by a certain amount of hypcrisy.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Say a guy has no access to pornography (I'm including both still images and video here).
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
Call his wife in?
He has no wife and can't find anyone willing to sleep with him. He finds it immoral and repulsive to sleep with animals other than humans.
Have I covered everything?
_________________
Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
Who_Am_I wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Say a guy has no access to pornography (I'm including both still images and video here).
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
He has an erection, it isn't going away on its own, and it's starting to get painful. What does he do?
Call his wife in?
He has no wife and can't find anyone willing to sleep with him. He finds it immoral and repulsive to sleep with animals other than humans.
Have I covered everything?
Time for a cold shower? Or, are we talking priapism?
ArrantPariah wrote:
...and, one of the articles deals with the angst expressed at the beginning of the discussion
it is just basic female biology
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... otic-women
It would appear that feminism is attended by a certain amount of hypcrisy.
madamehussein wrote:
I have some biblical issues regarding feminism....
During my upbringing, I came to see feminist ideas as the "official" truth, since all authorities and the media seemed to subscribe to it. I tried most my life to live up to the image of what a "good alternative/progressive guy" was supposed to be...
And it turned out it was all for nothing. Not even the girls/women I had admired as role models seemed to like the allaround nice guy I tried to be, the one they'd said they wanted me to be.
So...in short. I looked up to/admired feminists/women, I took everything they said as truth, and THOSE B'TCHES LIED TO ME!! !
I simply can't let it go. It's lika a christian upbringing, you can distance yourself from the religion, but the values are still kinda ingrained in you...
During my upbringing, I came to see feminist ideas as the "official" truth, since all authorities and the media seemed to subscribe to it. I tried most my life to live up to the image of what a "good alternative/progressive guy" was supposed to be...
And it turned out it was all for nothing. Not even the girls/women I had admired as role models seemed to like the allaround nice guy I tried to be, the one they'd said they wanted me to be.
So...in short. I looked up to/admired feminists/women, I took everything they said as truth, and THOSE B'TCHES LIED TO ME!! !
I simply can't let it go. It's lika a christian upbringing, you can distance yourself from the religion, but the values are still kinda ingrained in you...
it is just basic female biology
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... otic-women
Quote:
If there’s such a thing as porn for women, it revolves around the romance novel.......although women aren’t willing to pay for such typically male-oriented visual porn, they’re quite happy to pay for the privilege of reading romance fiction. So happy in fact that such erotica actually produces more revenue than does online pornography for men...
The hero in romance novels may be, as Ogas and Gaddam describe him, “virile, dangerous, and lusty” (p. 87), but he’s not reduced to a sex object either—as, so commonly, are women in “adult” fiction for men. In fact, the hero in romances becomes increasingly human—and vulnerable—as the story develops and, unexpectedly, he falls head-over-heels in love with the much more innocent (and less experienced) heroine.
These heroes are virtually always alpha males, to whom a considerable majority of women seem almost magnetically attracted. And romance novels exploit this preference in various ways. It’s not simply the hero’s physical prowess that is so compelling to female readers: it’s also his “status, confidence, and competence” (p. 95). Each of these traits contributes to his overall dominance—and such male authority, or ascendance, is what most women appear hard-wired to be susceptible to, as well as willing to submit to. Ogas and Gaddam, observing that studies have repeatedly demonstrated the erotic appeal of alpha dominance to women—from the sensory cues of the male’s voice, to his scent, to his movement and gait, to his sharply defined facial features...
No coincidence, then, that the ten most popular vocations of the hero—as Ogas and Gaddam’s determined through reviewing the titles of more than 15,000 Harlequin romance novels (!)—are doctor, cowboy, boss, prince, rancher, knight, surgeon, king, bodyguard, and sheriff. Moreover, swaggering alphas aren’t simply natural, born leaders and hyper-confident about their abilities, they’re also fiercely protective. So even though, rationally, contemporary women are less and less in need of a forceful male savior, they still find them immensely attractive as romantic partners.
Inevitably, men have become increasingly aware of this fundamental sexual cue for women, which is what accounts for the Pickup Artist culture made famous (notorious?) by Neil Strauss in his book The Game (2005). The seduction techniques delineated there are contrived (as Ogas and Gaddam put it) “to activate women’s psychological cues in the same way that Botox, collagen, and implants are designed to artificially trigger men’s visual ones.” And the main requirements for successful seduction is, well, to “always be an alpha” (p. 96)...
The hero in romance novels may be, as Ogas and Gaddam describe him, “virile, dangerous, and lusty” (p. 87), but he’s not reduced to a sex object either—as, so commonly, are women in “adult” fiction for men. In fact, the hero in romances becomes increasingly human—and vulnerable—as the story develops and, unexpectedly, he falls head-over-heels in love with the much more innocent (and less experienced) heroine.
These heroes are virtually always alpha males, to whom a considerable majority of women seem almost magnetically attracted. And romance novels exploit this preference in various ways. It’s not simply the hero’s physical prowess that is so compelling to female readers: it’s also his “status, confidence, and competence” (p. 95). Each of these traits contributes to his overall dominance—and such male authority, or ascendance, is what most women appear hard-wired to be susceptible to, as well as willing to submit to. Ogas and Gaddam, observing that studies have repeatedly demonstrated the erotic appeal of alpha dominance to women—from the sensory cues of the male’s voice, to his scent, to his movement and gait, to his sharply defined facial features...
No coincidence, then, that the ten most popular vocations of the hero—as Ogas and Gaddam’s determined through reviewing the titles of more than 15,000 Harlequin romance novels (!)—are doctor, cowboy, boss, prince, rancher, knight, surgeon, king, bodyguard, and sheriff. Moreover, swaggering alphas aren’t simply natural, born leaders and hyper-confident about their abilities, they’re also fiercely protective. So even though, rationally, contemporary women are less and less in need of a forceful male savior, they still find them immensely attractive as romantic partners.
Inevitably, men have become increasingly aware of this fundamental sexual cue for women, which is what accounts for the Pickup Artist culture made famous (notorious?) by Neil Strauss in his book The Game (2005). The seduction techniques delineated there are contrived (as Ogas and Gaddam put it) “to activate women’s psychological cues in the same way that Botox, collagen, and implants are designed to artificially trigger men’s visual ones.” And the main requirements for successful seduction is, well, to “always be an alpha” (p. 96)...
It would appear that feminism is attended by a certain amount of hypcrisy.
It's not hypocrisy if you've gone off men because they think they always have to act like alphas.
