A new Warren Court?
Kraichgauer
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As you say that you support Obama care because it helps you while hurting others who aren't you so it's ok.
Quite hypocritical.
Obama care has made Medicaid crappier then it once was. I still haven't received my Medicare card. Medicaid pays for my doctor but Medicare pays for the drugs. Doctor won't see me unless I have both even though I'm not getting drugs.
It used to pay for eyes, dental and medical now it's. Ostia just medical I haven't been to dentis because they'll likely just pull all my teeth because with Obama care they won't pay to fix them anymore like they use to. So I eat on one side and wait the day the open tooth gets infected and spreads to my brain and kills me :'( the alternative is to be s 28 year old with no teeth which I'm sure will ruin any chances of a life for me.
I brush my teeth twice a day or more.
Ying and yang. What benefits you hurts others and vice versa.
Insurance company meanwhile makes tons of money off me as they get paid by government and I never use any services.
So, Blabby is supposed to rid himself of Obamacare just because you haven't had the same good experience as he has? And by the way, my question is rhetorical.
Sure, Obamacare isn't perfect (it had in fact started it's life as a Republican plan back in the Clinton years), but it's just a first step. Ultimately, what we all should be hoping for is the eventual implementation of universal healthcare with the expansion of Medicare and social security.
That isn't what Sly said, he said that Obamacare specifically has made his healthcare worse off. There are many people like this, there are many that have been helped to some degree, it's still a terrible law and MASSIVE payoff to the insurance industry that the Democrats so disingenuously acted like they were fighting against,
Yeah, well, what do you expect from a Republican plan. Obama went with it because that was back in the days when he believed he could mend fences with the GOP by adopting their plan. It was naive of him to believe the Republicans wouldn't oppose anything and everything he presented just out of ideological principle and vindictiveness.
But sure, the drug companies have gotten a huge payday out of Obamacare. Like I said, we need universal coverage for everyone. And before anyone starts screaming that we don't have the money, I say it's time we start cutting more waste in the military, and make big corporations and the wealthy actually pay their due - no more tax breaks, no more loopholes!! !
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Obama got 3x the amount of money as John McCain did in 2008 from the healthcare industry
Which is a pretty big departure from previous elections, I think them coming out ahead in this deal when they were demonized by Obama at the same time wasn't really coincidence. Look at the stimulus which amount to a massive payoff to those that helped get Obama elected, like I said the Democrats are ruled by the big party bosses and they gots to get paid. Of course there are plenty of Republicans that aren't any better in this regard.
It never really made sense what Obama was doing considering his majorities, he would have had an easier time trying campaign with a more populist plan than "pragmatic" one but perhaps he feared that fight. I'm not sure how much worse he thought it could of gone as he squandered Democratic majorities that were supposed to last a generation. I don't think it was ever considered.
As you say that you support Obama care because it helps you while hurting others who aren't you so it's ok.
Quite hypocritical.
Obama care has made Medicaid crappier then it once was. I still haven't received my Medicare card. Medicaid pays for my doctor but Medicare pays for the drugs. Doctor won't see me unless I have both even though I'm not getting drugs.
It used to pay for eyes, dental and medical now it's. Ostia just medical I haven't been to dentis because they'll likely just pull all my teeth because with Obama care they won't pay to fix them anymore like they use to. So I eat on one side and wait the day the open tooth gets infected and spreads to my brain and kills me :'( the alternative is to be s 28 year old with no teeth which I'm sure will ruin any chances of a life for me.
I brush my teeth twice a day or more.
Ying and yang. What benefits you hurts others and vice versa.
Insurance company meanwhile makes tons of money off me as they get paid by government and I never use any services.
So, Blabby is supposed to rid himself of Obamacare just because you haven't had the same good experience as he has? And by the way, my question is rhetorical.
Sure, Obamacare isn't perfect (it had in fact started it's life as a Republican plan back in the Clinton years), but it's just a first step. Ultimately, what we all should be hoping for is the eventual implementation of universal healthcare with the expansion of Medicare and social security.
No but he's just as bad as those so called selfish gops
He's got his so freak all those who are hurting from it. I simple pointed out the hyprocracy of the statement he made.
I don't like when people are do as I say not as I do.
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Kraichgauer
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As you say that you support Obama care because it helps you while hurting others who aren't you so it's ok.
Quite hypocritical.
Obama care has made Medicaid crappier then it once was. I still haven't received my Medicare card. Medicaid pays for my doctor but Medicare pays for the drugs. Doctor won't see me unless I have both even though I'm not getting drugs.
It used to pay for eyes, dental and medical now it's. Ostia just medical I haven't been to dentis because they'll likely just pull all my teeth because with Obama care they won't pay to fix them anymore like they use to. So I eat on one side and wait the day the open tooth gets infected and spreads to my brain and kills me :'( the alternative is to be s 28 year old with no teeth which I'm sure will ruin any chances of a life for me.
I brush my teeth twice a day or more.
Ying and yang. What benefits you hurts others and vice versa.
Insurance company meanwhile makes tons of money off me as they get paid by government and I never use any services.
So, Blabby is supposed to rid himself of Obamacare just because you haven't had the same good experience as he has? And by the way, my question is rhetorical.
Sure, Obamacare isn't perfect (it had in fact started it's life as a Republican plan back in the Clinton years), but it's just a first step. Ultimately, what we all should be hoping for is the eventual implementation of universal healthcare with the expansion of Medicare and social security.
No but he's just as bad as those so called selfish gops
He's got his so freak all those who are hurting from it. I simple pointed out the hyprocracy of the statement he made.
I don't like when people are do as I say not as I do.
No, he is not anywhere as bad as the Republicans; circumstances have just worked out better for him than for others. Plus, he's only looking out for his medical and financial well being. How is that possibly bad or hypocritical?
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It's silly to blame the downtrodden for taking what it is offered to them, they didn't write or sign this bill into law. On a micro level, it may of helped some people but it has some hurt plenty as well. It's stupid to demonize these people for pittance they receive because they are getting screwed worse than anyone and they're led astray by this modern day plantation owner-esqe paternalism.
He said people who are against Obama care are the I have mine so freak others who are hurt by Obama care not existing.
But at same time
He's saying Obama care helps me so freak others who are hurt by it.
Both are I have mine so freak others.
So it's hypocritical to say both. It's really not a hard thing to get. In both situations someone is hurt so another person can get help.
Kraichgauer
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But at same time
He's saying Obama care helps me so freak others who are hurt by it.
Both are I have mine so freak others.
So it's hypocritical to say both. It's really not a hard thing to get. In both situations someone is hurt so another person can get help.
Did you consider the possibility that Blabby wasn't referring to you, but to conservative politicians, and conservatives of means?
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The real hypocrisy here is saying "I'm just in it for me and mine", then saying "it's wrong when other people are just in it for themselves". Have fun.
There's nothing wrong or hypocritical for looking out for the best interest of you and your family, except when you do it at the expense of others.
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But at same time
He's saying Obama care helps me so freak others who are hurt by it.
Both are I have mine so freak others.
So it's hypocritical to say both. It's really not a hard thing to get. In both situations someone is hurt so another person can get help.
Did you consider the possibility that Blabby wasn't referring to you, but to conservative politicians, and conservatives of means?
Yes, still doesn't make it ok to do it to others even if their people you dislike.
Look nursea is hurt by Obama care so he can be on it. So he's just as guilty of a I got mine so freak others as she is for wanting lower insurance prices at his expense. That's all I'm pointing out. Both of them are doing the same thing. Doesn't matter what Party they support.
Doing wrong if it's against the other party isn't right in my mindset and that's a very horrible mindset. We're all humans. You'll never win over conservatives by treating them as lessor humans. Those of us in the middle find both sides distasteful.
As for Obamacare fact is it helped some people but hurt a lot of people. Money had to come from somewhere. So people who can afford it before now pay more to cover giving those who can't afford it insurance. No way around that.
Medicaid went coverage went shittier in order to spread money around to cover new people. They had to cut some coverages to pay for more people. Wish there was a better way. As is preventable illnesses won't be paid for until they reach near death and then cost way more. Example they won't pay for me to get std testing but once a year or for codons but will pay for medicine for lay term stds and cancer. Insurance companies and drug companies are the winners here. Why do we oh way more for drugs then most other nations?
Why is abortions covered but not condoms?
It's s f****d up system.
Also I'm not saying I'm not happy blabby got Healh care. Just wish it didn't come at the expense of others. I'm quite afraid I'm going just die one night in my sleep. I dont know what to do as I don't want to have all my teeth pulled eithe and not be able to eat anymore
Kraichgauer
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But at same time
He's saying Obama care helps me so freak others who are hurt by it.
Both are I have mine so freak others.
So it's hypocritical to say both. It's really not a hard thing to get. In both situations someone is hurt so another person can get help.
Did you consider the possibility that Blabby wasn't referring to you, but to conservative politicians, and conservatives of means?
Yes, still doesn't make it ok to do it to others even if their people you dislike.
Look nursea is hurt by Obama care so he can be on it. So he's just as guilty of a I got mine so freak others as she is for wanting lower insurance prices at his expense. That's all I'm pointing out. Both of them are doing the same thing. Doesn't matter what Party they support.
Doing wrong if it's against the other party isn't right in my mindset and that's a very horrible mindset. We're all humans. You'll never win over conservatives by treating them as lessor humans. Those of us in the middle find both sides distasteful.
As for Obamacare fact is it helped some people but hurt a lot of people. Money had to come from somewhere. So people who can afford it before now pay more to cover giving those who can't afford it insurance. No way around that.
Medicaid went coverage went shittier in order to spread money around to cover new people. They had to cut some coverages to pay for more people. Wish there was a better way. As is preventable illnesses won't be paid for until they reach near death and then cost way more. Example they won't pay for me to get std testing but once a year or for codons but will pay for medicine for lay term stds and cancer. Insurance companies and drug companies are the winners here. Why do we oh way more for drugs then most other nations?
Why is abortions covered but not condoms?
It's s f****d up system.
Also I'm not saying I'm not happy blabby got Healh care. Just wish it didn't come at the expense of others. I'm quite afraid I'm going just die one night in my sleep. I dont know what to do as I don't want to have all my teeth pulled eithe and not be able to eat anymore
I think more than just some people are being helped by Obamacare, and they aren't the ones getting this help at anyone else' expense, as they didn't make it law, but only benefited from it.
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So if one benefits from the degradation of another race it's not their fault they didn't pas the law.
Or any other bad wrong law. So the insurance companies aren't at fault as they didn't pass the laws.
Etc such failed logic that contradicts your sides view of anyone who doesn't activity fight to end injustice is just as guilty as those who do the injustice .
I have no clue what you mean by this.
White people benefiting from segregation of blacks and blacks being treated as second class citizens.
Anyone who benefited from slavery but wasn't the direct inslaver.
If I take free stuff from someone who I know is stealing it I'm an accomplish.
If you benifit from a something bad your part of the problem.

I don't follow you.