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06 Jan 2010, 4:28 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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Bill Gates. Not Hitler, but obviously someone with AS can build an empire and dominate a market/country.

I'm not going to read this whole thread but I'll throw in my experience w/people with AS. The black/white/right/wrong thinking has generated some amazingly brutal, politically incorrect words from my AS friends lips. It makes sense to them. It's functional. Seperate the wheat from the chaff and be done with it seems to be the mindset. Hitler did seem (for right or wrong) to oook at the world this way too.


Bill Gates's diagnosis is rumor, not confirmed. I've heard both: he is and is not.
I'm not saying someone with AS can't say the same things as Hitler or be antisemitic. Anyone can, which is my point. There were proponents of genocide and social darwinism both here (US) and in Europe. It was a darker time. There wasn't such a thing as political correctness and we didn't have the disasters of WWII to learn from. It's no wonder Hitler and the other Nazis thought what they thought. Ask yourself if they were that different from others of the same period.
There isn't much evidence that Hitler was autistic if you really consider all the variables and look at the issue with an open mind. You must try to go back in time and get into the mindset. He was hardly a fish out of water. This was before they cured syphillis with antibiotics and most people lived in squalor and poverty so how can you know he was the way he was because of autism, especially since he was never diagnosed?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qNVe024RvI[/youtube]

1. He is an NT overdoing it.

2. He is an aspie overdoing it.

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06 Jan 2010, 10:42 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:

1. He is an NT overdoing it.

2. He is an aspie overdoing it.

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He is or was overdoing it.

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06 Jan 2010, 11:20 am

Carl Jung was scheduled to psychoanalyze Hitler, but Hitler backed out at the last minute. Jung said, 'Hitler is emotionless like an automaton'. He also thought Hitler had a daemon/genius. Hitler often heard voices and his life was saved by one of them during WWI.
Hitler was into occult practices too. All the nazi elites practiced occultism.


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06 Jan 2010, 11:22 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
granatelli wrote:
Bill Gates. Not Hitler, but obviously someone with AS can build an empire and dominate a market/country.

I'm not going to read this whole thread but I'll throw in my experience w/people with AS. The black/white/right/wrong thinking has generated some amazingly brutal, politically incorrect words from my AS friends lips. It makes sense to them. It's functional. Seperate the wheat from the chaff and be done with it seems to be the mindset. Hitler did seem (for right or wrong) to oook at the world this way too.


Bill Gates's diagnosis is rumor, not confirmed. I've heard both: he is and is not.
I'm not saying someone with AS can't say the same things as Hitler or be antisemitic. Anyone can, which is my point. There were proponents of genocide and social darwinism both here (US) and in Europe. It was a darker time. There wasn't such a thing as political correctness and we didn't have the disasters of WWII to learn from. It's no wonder Hitler and the other Nazis thought what they thought. Ask yourself if they were that different from others of the same period.
There isn't much evidence that Hitler was autistic if you really consider all the variables and look at the issue with an open mind. You must try to go back in time and get into the mindset. He was hardly a fish out of water. This was before they cured syphillis with antibiotics and most people lived in squalor and poverty so how can you know he was the way he was because of autism, especially since he was never diagnosed?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qNVe024RvI[/youtube]

1. He is an NT overdoing it.

2. He is an aspie overdoing it.

Your opinions?


I think he is just very nervous. Oh...and he is autistic.


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06 Jan 2010, 11:31 am

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bdhkhsfgk wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
granatelli wrote:
Bill Gates. Not Hitler, but obviously someone with AS can build an empire and dominate a market/country.

I'm not going to read this whole thread but I'll throw in my experience w/people with AS. The black/white/right/wrong thinking has generated some amazingly brutal, politically incorrect words from my AS friends lips. It makes sense to them. It's functional. Seperate the wheat from the chaff and be done with it seems to be the mindset. Hitler did seem (for right or wrong) to oook at the world this way too.


Bill Gates's diagnosis is rumor, not confirmed. I've heard both: he is and is not.
I'm not saying someone with AS can't say the same things as Hitler or be antisemitic. Anyone can, which is my point. There were proponents of genocide and social darwinism both here (US) and in Europe. It was a darker time. There wasn't such a thing as political correctness and we didn't have the disasters of WWII to learn from. It's no wonder Hitler and the other Nazis thought what they thought. Ask yourself if they were that different from others of the same period.
There isn't much evidence that Hitler was autistic if you really consider all the variables and look at the issue with an open mind. You must try to go back in time and get into the mindset. He was hardly a fish out of water. This was before they cured syphillis with antibiotics and most people lived in squalor and poverty so how can you know he was the way he was because of autism, especially since he was never diagnosed?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qNVe024RvI[/youtube]

1. He is an NT overdoing it.

2. He is an aspie overdoing it.

Your opinions?


I think he is just very nervous. Oh...and he is autistic.


If he was autistic he wouldn't have been able to be a chairmaster, be one of the world's richest men, take care of his kids, without being put in a home that takes care of people, doing a thing like he did is a big failure when you're not autistic.

But I have to admit that he's a good shield to use, many scummy manchild NT nerds at high school have him as an idol, so I can basically act like a sociopath towards my classmates, and then say I and Bill Gates have AS, then they will either respect me and him, or vice versa.



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06 Jan 2010, 11:40 am

Autism is a spectrum. He is definitely high functioning. Why would he rock like that? Just to be cute? He is not acting.


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06 Jan 2010, 11:41 am

bdhkhsfgk, your post makes no sense to me.

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If he was autistic he wouldn't have been able to be a chairmaster, be one of the world's richest men, take care of his kids, without being put in a home that takes care of people, doing a thing like he did is a big failure when you're not autistic.

But I have to admit that he's a good shield to use, many [] at high school have him as an idol, so I can basically act like a sociopath towards my classmates, and then say I and Bill Gates have AS, then they will either respect me and him, or vice versa.


1. Being autistic does not preclude any of the things you have listed.
2. Why do you need to use someone else, a complete stranger and a observational projection at best, as a shield for yourself?
3. What is to be gained by acting like a sociopath?
4. Your presumption that you will be respected purely on that basis is somewhat farcical in my opinion.


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06 Jan 2010, 11:59 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
If he was autistic he wouldn't have been able to be a chairmaster, be one of the world's richest men, take care of his kids, without being put in a home that takes care of people, doing a thing like he did is a big failure when you're not autistic.

But I have to admit that he's a good shield to use, many scummy manchild NT nerds at high school have him as an idol, so I can basically act like a sociopath towards my classmates, and then say I and Bill Gates have AS, then they will either respect me and him, or vice versa.


I don't agree with that. Bram Cohen has a family, has run a successful business, and invented BitTorrent, and he has said himself that he's an Aspie.

I'm starting a business myself, and plan to be rich in the future. Don't doubt my abilities. If anything, my autism will help me, because it means I can be focused on my project, I can be very passionate about it, and in the case of my software company, my logical thinking will help a damn lot writing my applications.



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06 Jan 2010, 12:01 pm

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bdhkhsfgk, your post makes no sense to me.

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
If he was autistic he wouldn't have been able to be a chairmaster, be one of the world's richest men, take care of his kids, without being put in a home that takes care of people, doing a thing like he did is a big failure when you're not autistic.

But I have to admit that he's a good shield to use, many [] at high school have him as an idol, so I can basically act like a sociopath towards my classmates, and then say I and Bill Gates have AS, then they will either respect me and him, or vice versa.

2. Why do you need to use someone else, a complete stranger and a observational projection at best, as a shield for yourself?
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Just in case someone talks negatively about me mainly because of my AS, mainly if they also have an artist, video producer or actor who I know has AS, and if they don't know it.

But I don't act like this unless I have to.



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08 Jan 2010, 3:01 am

I sure as hell hope not.


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08 Jan 2010, 3:03 am

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I sure as hell hope not.


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09 Jan 2010, 1:24 am

well if he was (which I doubt seriously) I would not claim him as one.
I however do think he was a sociopath with malignant narcisim.



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09 Jan 2010, 4:17 am

Hitler would make your blood run cold if you met him.

He was a Mad Evil sorcerer. He was delusional, and possibly sick with std's working with a spongy brain.

I have to drop this (Watch inglorious bastards, its very fulfilling)


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10 Jan 2010, 5:52 am

I did watch inglorous bastards...it was so funny expecailly the apache/jew with a texas accent from Tennisee (sp)
The ending was great! And very satifying...if only it really ended that way...but him eating his own gun (which actually happened) was good too...but not as satifying
Hitler was nucking futts


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10 Jan 2010, 10:56 am

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well if he was (which I doubt seriously) I would not claim him as one.
I however do think he was a sociopath with malignant narcisim.


No, if he was a sociopath, he would probably be in jail or something.



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I don't think so, but he was evil. He did many terrible things. His persecution and killing of Jews was nothing short of Satanism. The Holocaust involved killing people by putting them in ovens, changing people's eye color by injecting chemicals in their eyes, and God knows what else.


No, the ovens were crematoria. You'll find crematoria in most large population centres. They're used for disposing of bodies that are already dead.

The Nazi mass murder weapon was apparently the gas chamber.
You've kind of gotta wonder what's wrong with bullets.

I mean, if you want to exterminate an entire race, why bother transporting them hundreds of miles, putting them in camps, clothing them, feeding them, and then day after day luring a select few into an empty room and filling it with insecticde?

And like 60 years later there are still over 200,000 holocaust survivors living in Israel.

Why didn't they just shoot them?
Would've been kinda more efficient. Guess they never thought of it