Trump's various attempts to challenge election results
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People Are Taking the Wrong Lesson From Trump’s Failed Coup
At last, it seems, the nightmare is ending. Trump tried to steal the election—and he failed. He will be removed from office at noon on January 20, 2021, just as the Constitution requires. We won.
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But what exactly does that mean?
Unfortunately, some people are taking the wrong lesson from Trump’s defeat. In recent weeks I’ve seen some pundits crow that things did not fall apart, the center held: Our institutions proved able to resist the full force of Trumpism deployed against them. David Lauter, the senior Washington correspondent for the Los Angeles Times, tweeted, “So far, predictions of catastrophe have fallen flat: No violence, no huge lines, no big problems with USPS nor mass numbers of voters with ballot errors. No efforts by GOP legislatures to interfere. Just Rudy [Giuliani] with hair dye dripping on his face. Whimper, not bang.” Brad Heath from Reuters wrote, “The basic gears and sprockets of our democracy have so far proved pretty resilient. Trump has attempted some pretty wild moves to subvert the election he just lost, but so far each and every one of them has failed.”
But that analysis appears overly sanguine. Trump failed to steal the election because he and his legal team are incompetent criminals, not because our democratic institutions defeated him.
But that analysis appears overly sanguine. Trump failed to steal the election because he and his legal team are incompetent criminals, not because our democratic institutions defeated him. Saying that our democracy proved resilient against Republican attempts at subversion is like saying the fences at Jurassic Park proved resilient against raptors. Yes, technically Trump kept getting zapped on the electrified fence that is the federal judiciary. But his willingness to try—and the willingness of large swaths of the Republican Party to help him—shows that if the guardrails give way for even a moment, Republicans will break out and start eating the votes of Black people.
This election witnessed new and destructive attempts by the GOP to win: Instead of merely trying to suppress the votes of Black people, the party tried to nullify those votes altogether. In predominately Black city after predominately Black city, Republicans urged courts, state boards of elections, and secretaries of state to throw away ballots cast by legitimately registered voters on the basis of “voter fraud.” They offered no evidence for these allegations but expected officials to throw out literally hundreds of thousands of votes anyway.
And it almost worked. In Michigan, for instance, the two GOP members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, William Hartmann and Monica Palmer, initially refused to certify the results in their county, which includes Detroit. Palmer indicated she’d be willing to certify results everywhere in her jurisdiction except for precincts in that predominately Black city.
Biden won Michigan by over 150,000 votes. What would be happening there now if he had won the state by only 11,000 votes—which is about the margin by which Trump defeated Hillary Clinton there in 2016? By how much are Democrats now required to win elections to make Republicans acknowledge the obvious results?
Meanwhile, as similar charades played out in other states, vanishingly few national Republican officials acknowledged Biden’s victory, instead choosing to support Trump’s baseless lawsuits to overturn the election. Some went even further.
Meanwhile, as similar charades played out in other states, vanishingly few national Republican officials acknowledged Biden’s victory, instead choosing to support Trump’s baseless lawsuits to overturn the election. Some went even further. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is being investigated for ethics violations because he allegedly tried to pressure a Georgia official into throwing out some counties’ absentee ballots, the majority of which were for Biden.
Unfortunately, we now know that at least 126 Republicans in Congress are every bit as partisan and craven as Senator Graham.
This election revealed an entire network of functionaries who were captured and corrupted by Trump and were willing to help him steal the election.
The Trump legal team is so incompetent and the courts have been so consistent in rejecting his campaign’s amateur-hour lawsuits that people may be tempted to think that the courts, at least, will reject similar threats to democracy in future elections. But I wouldn’t be so sure.
I do not think the institutions held during this election; I think Trump just got whupped beyond the point that the corrupted institutions could save him.
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Missed this last month:
https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-20 ... zling/amp/
The Spectator is reasonably mainstream and lays out a bunch of anomalies.
If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.
Patrick Basham is director of the Democracy Institute.
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Trump supporters asked Rex Briggs -- a Nevada resident who specializes in data analysis -- to investigate that state's election returns. But when Briggs conducted an investigation as they requested, their claims fell apart. He ended up debunking their arguments, rather than finding proof for them. This should be no surprise, of course. Not only are the pro-Trump claims of election fraud made without credible evidence, but they're also made so wildly and out of proportion with reality that there's no indication the people making such allegations care about the truth at all.
In an article published by the Nevada Independent, Briggs explains: "I was enlisted by 'The Trump Digital Army, Election Integrity Division' on November 8, 2020 to look at the source data in each battleground state, and compare 2016 to 2020 results to find any outliers/anomalies in the 2020 election results that could signal fraud."
The data Briggs analyzed, at the request of Trump supporters, included:
• Alleged age anomalies in voter registration (e.g., potentially dead voters or under-age voters)
• Alleged out-of-state voters and party registration
• Alleged turnout exceeding registered voters
• Turnout by county, 2016 vs. 2020
• Margin of victory by county, Republicans vs. Democrats, 2016 and 2020.
• Voter registration, 2016 vs. 2020
After analyzing the data, Briggs found:
• No evidence of rigging the voter registration process for Biden in Nevada
• No evidence of rigging turnout for Biden in Nevada
• No evidence of stuffing ballots for Biden in Nevada
• No county where the number of ballots cast exceeded the number of registered voters
Briggs, discussing Dominion software and Nevada, explains, "I investigated the pre-election machine testing and the verification process that confirms that what is entered matches the vote tallies. I also checked a machine when I voted in-person and could examine the printed tape. I also checked the methodology of the post-election audit of the electronic vote tally vs. the tape count. All of them aligned, and all of those processes were open to the public and had both parties observe the audits. I found nothing in the data that shows the election was rigged."
The bottom line, according to Briggs, is that Biden won Nevada fairly, albeit by smaller margins than Democrats would have liked.
Source: Nevada Independent Article on Rex Briggs
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..wut?
Who killed babies?
Are you suggesting Biden killed anyone, ever, and more specifically he’s killed babies?
This is absurd..
Regardless, trump can’t “get his way.” It’s called democracy & he Lost the election. Biden got more votes than trump. Biden won. The end!
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You'd rather our southern neighbour becomes a dictatorship or devolves into civil war?
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https://news.yahoo.com/bruce-bartman-ch ... 49883.html
Bruce Bartman, 70, was charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering both deceased women online to vote in the Nov. 3 election using either their driver’s license or social security number, prosecutors said Monday.
“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.
I guess the far-right extremists are right when they insist there was voter fraud. What they don't admit is that they're the ones who've been engaging in it.
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“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.
Oh the sweet irony. Of course the MAGAs will claim this is a setup.
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I wish we could just laugh and say it didn’t matter what those MAGAs have to say. But there are tens of Millions of them.. and they have guns. Sooo, things could still be ridiculous for a while yet. Possibly even violent. But chances are these MAGA types are going to be making noise for Biden’s entire presidency & beyond - much like the descendants of the losers of the civil war still flying confederate flags as a display of their proud white supremacy.
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Judging from this fact these jokers still make it dangerous out there in rural America
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... stops-safe
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It's probably a good idea to just start treating Trump 2020 flags like the new traitor's rag.
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CR is probably referring to stances on abortion rather than to "baby killing" in the literal sense.
But for Trump to "have his way" wold be overturning democracy and making it the joke of the century. Problem is, Trump's been so accustomed to have his way every time for over 70 years and that's why he can't accept it now.
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Judging from this fact these jokers still make it dangerous out there in rural America
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... stops-safe
:/ Yep.
trump has made these types even worse than normal + now he’s taking a wrecking ball to citizens’ trust in democracy on the way out the soon -> which was Putin’s end game from the beginning.. sooo, even though he lost the election the USA is in some serious trouble for a long time to come. As long as these cult members live they’re going to have problems & the solution is going to take decades of defunding the military industrial complex & re-funding public education.
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