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21 Dec 2020, 10:24 pm

aghogday wrote:

syph scars on the women. that was a telling comment on relationships by Alan Parsons.



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21 Dec 2020, 10:50 pm

Altruism is death. If you are breathing oxygen, you are selfish for not giving your air to someone else. Shame on you for living!

Or if you say you would die for someone you love, shame on you. You would doom someone to a lifetime without you to take care of them? How inconsiderate! Better to let them die so that they don’t have to suffer loss.

Altruism is not for the living.

Rational self-interest is the only way you can fully express love. You claim other human beings as belonging to you: He is MY friend, she is MY wife. They are treasure with immeasurable value, which is why human loss stings so terribly. You never mourn for dead loved ones because they are in a happier place. You mourn for yourself.

Altruistic love is a contradiction (remember, contradictions cannot exist). It demands a total surrender of life and liberty with no view to exchange with the self-hating giver. There is no value for another person, only demand for self-sacrifice whereby one manifests hate for himself through senseless deprivation. The only people who benefit from altruistic societies are envious victim classes and greedy parasites who exploit self-hating victims. If you are not needy or greedy, you are starving to death because that’s what “good little boys and girls” do.



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21 Dec 2020, 10:57 pm

if there were no such thing as altruism, what kind of world would we have? if greed were the highest behavior, what kind of world would we have?



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21 Dec 2020, 10:57 pm

^^^

They were definitely Scars; Yet, Syph Scars will Be Much More Horrendous And Disfiguring
Than what is Portrayed on the Album Cover, 'Eve'; Per the Alan Parson's Website It was

to Counter-Act

The Scars Placed

Upon Women by

'Mankind' Surely

Deeply Seeped

by the Responsibility

Of Abrahamic Religions

That Still Put Women Below

Men Actually Labeling Them As Evil Temptresses

By Way of Apple Temptations By Snakes and

The Such as that; Typically, if one has a Nice

Mother and Great Mutual Loving Success with Women

They Don't

Develop

A Darker

'Incel' Philosophy

And Develop a Might

Is Right Way of Life

Subjugating and

Controlling

Women

By Force as Life

Becomes One Long

Rape, Particularly in

All Ways of Taking Reproductive Freedoms Away...

Of Course That is Changing in Dismay to the 'Trump Way of Life';

True, There is

More Responsibility

Of Love That Frees Rather

Than Imprisons by the Truly Soul Weak...

OBTW, 1979, Was the Year my First Love

Broke-Up with me; True i Understand

Where that Other 'View' Comes

From too; It's Hard when

You Do Not

Feel

Lovable

By the Gender

Most Responsible

For Life as God is Practically

A Woman In this Way for Human Breath (Love)


"(1979)

It was originally intended to be an album inspired by great women in history.

It evolved into an appreciation of the strengths and characteristics of women

in general and the problems they face in the world of men."

https://www.the-alan-parsons-project.com/eve


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21 Dec 2020, 11:15 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Altruism is death. If you are breathing oxygen, you are selfish for not giving your air to someone else. Shame on you for living!

Or if you say you would die for someone you love, shame on you. You would doom someone to a lifetime without you to take care of them? How inconsiderate! Better to let them die so that they don’t have to suffer loss.

Altruism is not for the living.

Rational self-interest is the only way you can fully express love. You claim other human beings as belonging to you: He is MY friend, she is MY wife. They are treasure with immeasurable value, which is why human loss stings so terribly. You never mourn for dead loved ones because they are in a happier place. You mourn for yourself.

Altruistic love is a contradiction (remember, contradictions cannot exist). It demands a total surrender of life and liberty with no view to exchange with the self-hating giver. There is no value for another person, only demand for self-sacrifice whereby one manifests hate for himself through senseless deprivation. The only people who benefit from altruistic societies are envious victim classes and greedy parasites who exploit self-hating victims. If you are not needy or greedy, you are starving to death because that’s what “good little boys and girls” do.


Well, the FACT IS As Science Shows, HUMANS By Nature, In Healthy Balance Cooperating;
AND Yes SOME APES, And Other Animals, are Extremely Altruistic By Nature Cooperating...

And Yes of Course, You are welcome to Your Opinions; Yet, Science Shows You to Be Incorrect...

Other Than That; Considering the Story of 'Trade Mark Jesus' is All About Sacrificing Oneself For Love as Written

In King James Way; i Find it odd that You Consider Yourself Christian; That Doesn't make a bit of sense to me..

Yet Again;

Only Heroes

with Empathy;

True Alpha Leaders;

As The Scientist Who Fathered

That Term Shows That Empathy

Rules Over Selfish Greed; Or Perhaps,

You Didn't See the 'Lion King Movie';

Yet, Of Course, 'Lions Are Not Particularly Altruistic in Real

Life as Lionesses are'; Just ask 'The Cubs Eaten By Trump At the Border Wall' for Metaphor...

Smiles, my FRiEnD, You Seem to be Lost on How Strong Love Will Actually Make a 'Real Man'...

Sure,

At least

A Good Cop Jesus;

Or A Real Alpha Male Hero With Empathy for the WHOLE TRIBE;

"Now, what are the obligations? And here, for me, it gets really interesting, and it deviates very much from your typical image of the alpha male. The alpha male has two sorts of obligations. One is to keep the peace in the group. We call that the control role, to control fights in the group, and the second is to be the most empathic, the consoler in chief, basically, of the nation, so to speak."

So In Other Words, In Terms of Politics too, the Trump Is Falling and the Biden or Obama is Rising Again...

Don't TAKE MY 'Words for it alone; i bring the Evidence With me everywhere i go... Light Over Dark This way too...

It's True All that Really Separates

A Hero From a Villain Now Is

Empathy And Love for ALL Others;

'Trump' Is 'the Quintessential
Metaphor' for the Villain as Far

Away From Real As A Real Hero and Alpha Male Comes And Goes As 'They'

Will Fall As They Always Do; As Just Watch How Far Trump is gonna fall next....

And True This Also Happens to 'Empathic Angels' Too; They Fall With the Loss

of Love of Empathy And Altruism too.. It's Also True as Science Shows, Some Folks

Have No Perspective Born to Ever be An Alpha Male And or Female At all..

"Life isn't

Fair Little One"

As Quoted By 'Scar' In the

'Lion King Movie' Before A Mouse

Escapes Becoming A "Man"; (Hero) (Alpha Leader) Many Other Metaphors

For this Responsibility of the Hero Archetype Felt at Core of Soul; The Kind of Hero That Would Never

Torture someone forever either; for Only a True Psychopath; Man And Or God, would that Do that for Real...

i don't believe

in that God

And

Or Man;

i am A

Higher 'Force'

of Love Than that by far;

Just because i Can, Will, Do Take

'The Responsibility' and fulfill it each day...

Yeah, Yeah, Been Financially Independent

For 13 Years; That Helps too; Mostly Cause i don't

Care to Spend Money; Filled To The Brim Over Flowing
With Love; A Mother's Gift Born And Bred; Ya Just Always Seem to win...

Light Does Penetrate... Dark...

Indeed i am

A Most Fortunate

One and i Realize

All My Privilege; Gift For Real...

This LiGHT, This LoVE i am For Real...

Remember All that Separates Me too from

A Villain, Is Love And Empathy, all the Other Power-Ups Remain...

i am very

Careful

Not

to Lose the First Two Again...

Falling is No Fun; Neither is Real Hell on Earth Within As

Every Real Reformed Devil Does Not Or Does Feel Heaven;

Well, Let's Just Dance Sing, Chant, If We Can And Will, Heaven IS A Better Other place now...

https://www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_the_surprising_science_of_alpha_males/transcript?language=en

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/walking-the-line-between-good-and-evil-the-common-thread-of-heroes-and-villains/


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21 Dec 2020, 11:30 pm

enlightened self-interest is awareness that it is a multipolar world with valid competing interests. we have a shortage of that in amuuurica, a drastic shortage.



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21 Dec 2020, 11:55 pm

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enlightened self-interest is awareness that it is a multipolar world with valid competing interests. we have a shortage of that in amuuurica, a drastic shortage.


Indeed, Dangerous, as Democracy

All Most Lost For Good Is Bad for Long 'This Go Around'...

As 'the Villain' Continues to Attempt His Coup in 'Hitler Style'...


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Personal responsibility simply means you take ownership of your circumstances and actions.


Well let's look at your definition if you don't mind my friend. Let's look at the definition of own. According to the webster's dictionary (assuming it is a good and reliable dictionary) own means to "to have power or mastery over."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/own#h2

In other words, I believe you are saying it means to take power or mastery over my life.

I believe it was Francis Bacon who said "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." In other words, one must understand the rules and laws of nature and/or reality to make it work for you, is that correct? I assume it is.

If I don't understand what I must obey in order to make nature/reality to work for me and to take power or mastery over my life because reality is forever changing and is always in flux and various people were/are stakeholders in my life over the years then logically how can I take power and mastery over my own life and how would it be possible to know how? If I don't understand nor is it really possible to know how to take power and mastery over my life then how can I take ownership of my life? If it is not possible or I don't know how to take ownership of my life then how can I take personal responsibility for my life and how does personal responsibility apply to me whatsoever?

If reality is absolute and it is not possible to know reality because it changes so much then how can one truthfully and logically act accordance to reality?

Maybe I'm laboring under faulty premises still because I'm not grasping something within this whole concept but do you see why I see personal responsibility as a crock?



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22 Dec 2020, 11:03 am

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Personal responsibility simply means you take ownership of your circumstances and actions.


Well let's look at your definition if you don't mind my friend. Let's look at the definition of own. According to the webster's dictionary (assuming it is a good and reliable dictionary) own means to "to have power or mastery over."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/own#h2

In other words, I believe you are saying it means to take power or mastery over my life.

I believe it was Francis Bacon who said "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." In other words, one must understand the rules and laws of nature and/or reality to make it work for you, is that correct? I assume it is.

If I don't understand what I must obey in order to make nature/reality to work for me and to take power or mastery over my life because reality is forever changing and is always in flux and various people were/are stakeholders in my life over the years then logically how can I take power and mastery over my own life and how would it be possible to know how? If I don't understand nor is it really possible to know how to take power and mastery over my life then how can I take ownership of my life? If it is not possible or I don't know how to take ownership of my life then how can I take personal responsibility for my life and how does personal responsibility apply to me whatsoever?

If reality is absolute and it is not possible to know reality because it changes so much then how can one truthfully and logically act accordance to reality?

Maybe I'm laboring under faulty premises still because I'm not grasping something within this whole concept but do you see why I see personal responsibility as a crock?

The faulty premise is that objective reality is imperceivable. You CAN observe and learn from reality what it is and it’s nature. Reality is not so fluid that it can randomly flash out of existence. Human activity can mold and shape reality within reasonable limits, but it can never fundamentally change what reality is. Gravity is still gravity and will always be gravity. Human beings require food, water, and oxygen and always will—at least until we reach the singularity, but I think Kurzweil is wrong. Once growth reaches saturation, it slows. We will forever approach the singularity, but actual achievement of it is impossible. But give the possibilities of augmenting the human organism through artificial intelligence and machine networks, I’d be excited to be proven wrong. That’s what makes being human so cool: limiting factors don’t have to be.

Oh, sure, I can understand why you feel the way you do. But I also know that it’s an extremely narrow view and irrational. Dynamic nature is observable, meaning changes can be seen and conclusions drawn about those changes. Nobody has to verify the law of gravity to crawl out of bed and go to work or school. Gravitation, on the other hand, is not the same thing, is not as well understood. We lack the means to fully understand it. But we can make observations about stars, planets, moons, asteroids, and planetary rings to draw conclusions about objects of varying mass and their relationships to each other to show how gravitation MIGHT work.

Popular opinion is that beauty in music is subjective. But this doesn’t bear out in reality. I watched a video on polytonality in which note combinations were used that couldn’t possibly (according to CP music theory) sound right. Yet it sounded fine. Despite technically being dissonances, the notes exploited two musical principles not discussed in depth in CP theory: the harmonic series and resonance (one note sonically reinforcing another). Did the rules of music suddenly change? No. It just means there’s another objective explanation that a rudimentary understanding of CP theory doesn’t cover. CP theory, incidentally, is based on the harmonic series. The problem is teachers put all the focus on rules of harmony and counterpoint rather than the relationship to the harmonic series such that there doesn’t appear to the student any unifying organization of musical notes. All the student sees are rules that sometimes get bent or broken, but otherwise must be done THIS WAY. But that’s not objective. The objective part is all cause and effect. If this, then that. If you do this, you get beautiful sounds. If you do that, you get ugly sounds. So when THAT seems to make beautiful sounds, there seems to be a contradiction. Contradictions cannot exist by definition. So THAT really isn’t THAT. You just cannot see how that is really THIS. The apparent dissonance is actually following an objective rule about the nature of consonances. It is not the rule that changes, but rather your understanding of the rule that must be updated. My job as a theorist is to be open to possibilities and be prepared to adjust my worldview once I discover something new about reality—for instance, that music is more complex than what we have time to study in four semesters of common practice functional harmony.

Likewise, there are all sorts of things in nature that follow unifying rules that we do not yet understand. Reality is not contingent on our understanding of it. Understanding something doesn’t change reality. Certain religious people practice positive confession. Other New Age writers have come up with the Law of Attraction. The idea is that you can speak wishful thinking into reality. Actual reality cannot be manipulated by wishful thinking or speaking magic words. Reality is shaped by action. Law of Attraction people UNDERSTAND reality. They just lack the will to take action. Understanding HOW to make something into reality doesn’t magically change reality. It just means you are aware of what was always there to begin with. Just because a person is born blind doesn’t change reality. It just means we can understand the world in ways a blind person can’t. A blind person still has just as much power to shape reality as a seeing person. The various means people have to do that never preclude the possibility that someone CAN do a thing. Because a blind person must perceive things differently than seeing people, their unique perception allows the possibility that some observations they make are actually superior to others. They cannot be fooled by illusions or visual marketing.

Stephen Covey walks the line on between wishful thinking and reality by teaching visualization. It’s really just an exercise or thought experiment, purely psychological. Where do you want to be in 20 years? To get there, where do you have to be in 10 years? To get there, where do you have to be in 5 years? 3 years? 2 years? Next year? How does achieving next year’s goal affect what you do today and tomorrow? If you can imagine what the future looks like, you can begin taking steps to realize that future. You may change your mind along the way, you may have to make adjustments, but achieving the future you want, shaping reality, is more difficult if you have no vision of what reality or future should even be.

Oh...and the idea of shaping reality is more metaphorical because reality cannot fundamentally change in any literal sense. Part of objective reality is the logical possibility that ideas can be realized. If you work at McDonald’s, you watch a monitor where orders come in. You know a QP with cheese has a certain bun, uses fresh onion slices (not dehydrated), pickles, mustard, and ketchup. Bun, cheese, meat, and condiments go together in a specific order. The standard recipe for a QP/cheese is only an idea. It has no connection to reality. Your job is to take the IDEA of that item and convert it into something a customer can eat, the reality of whether anything at McDonald’s is actually edible notwithstanding. :lol:

A good counterpoint to what I’m talking about is, iirc, Norman Rockefeller’s Think And Be Rich. Utterly bizarre. Great book if you want some good laughs, but absolutely atrocious. And there are people who actually BELIEVE stuff like that. The important thing to remember is that there IS a reality out there that we can manipulate to get what we want or need. By no means does creative effort fundamentally change what reality is.



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22 Dec 2020, 11:29 am

auntblabby wrote:
enlightened self-interest is awareness that it is a multipolar world with valid competing interests. we have a shortage of that in amuuurica, a drastic shortage.

I actually mostly agree with this. People fail to realize that it is possible to have interest in other people/things without sacrificing their own identity or interests. There is an irrational side to selfishness, the idea that we’re not really anything more than animals. If you think rational self-interest is Hedonism, you either don’t understand what rational is or what Hedonism is. It is perfectly rational that people love each other and want to connect. Disconnected selfishness, envy, and greed are not grounded in reason.

Greed is the unmitigated desire to accumulate more without any view to exchange, likewise with victim class envy. We are ENTITLED to things we don’t work for. Without a fair exchange, desired object lack value. If things and people possess no value, what is the rational basis for desiring them?

But if people and things are worth anything, they are worth working for. It is that inherent worth that forms human bonds through shared values and interests if for no other reason than that we all have life and love life. If you are a disabled person and have to be dependent on others or the government, then you repay your debt through gratitude for those who think you are worth caring for. It is not ability that makes you valuable. It’s that you are someone’s parent, child, sibling, or friend. Shame on anyone who refuses to see that.



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22 Dec 2020, 12:19 pm

aghogday wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Altruism is death. If you are breathing oxygen, you are selfish for not giving your air to someone else. Shame on you for living!

Or if you say you would die for someone you love, shame on you. You would doom someone to a lifetime without you to take care of them? How inconsiderate! Better to let them die so that they don’t have to suffer loss.

Altruism is not for the living.

Rational self-interest is the only way you can fully express love. You claim other human beings as belonging to you: He is MY friend, she is MY wife. They are treasure with immeasurable value, which is why human loss stings so terribly. You never mourn for dead loved ones because they are in a happier place. You mourn for yourself.

Altruistic love is a contradiction (remember, contradictions cannot exist). It demands a total surrender of life and liberty with no view to exchange with the self-hating giver. There is no value for another person, only demand for self-sacrifice whereby one manifests hate for himself through senseless deprivation. The only people who benefit from altruistic societies are envious victim classes and greedy parasites who exploit self-hating victims. If you are not needy or greedy, you are starving to death because that’s what “good little boys and girls” do.


Well, the FACT IS As Science Shows, HUMANS By Nature, In Healthy Balance Cooperating;
AND Yes SOME APES, And Other Animals, are Extremely Altruistic By Nature Cooperating...

And Yes of Course, You are welcome to Your Opinions; Yet, Science Shows You to Be Incorrect...

Other Than That; Considering the Story of 'Trade Mark Jesus' is All About Sacrificing Oneself For Love as Written

In King James Way; i Find it odd that You Consider Yourself Christian; That Doesn't make a bit of sense to me..

Yet Again;

Only Heroes

with Empathy;

True Alpha Leaders;

As The Scientist Who Fathered

That Term Shows That Empathy

Rules Over Selfish Greed; Or Perhaps,

You Didn't See the 'Lion King Movie';

Yet, Of Course, 'Lions Are Not Particularly Altruistic in Real

Life as Lionesses are'; Just ask 'The Cubs Eaten By Trump At the Border Wall' for Metaphor...

Smiles, my FRiEnD, You Seem to be Lost on How Strong Love Will Actually Make a 'Real Man'...

Sure,

At least

A Good Cop Jesus;

Or A Real Alpha Male Hero With Empathy for the WHOLE TRIBE;

"Now, what are the obligations? And here, for me, it gets really interesting, and it deviates very much from your typical image of the alpha male. The alpha male has two sorts of obligations. One is to keep the peace in the group. We call that the control role, to control fights in the group, and the second is to be the most empathic, the consoler in chief, basically, of the nation, so to speak."

So In Other Words, In Terms of Politics too, the Trump Is Falling and the Biden or Obama is Rising Again...

Don't TAKE MY 'Words for it alone; i bring the Evidence With me everywhere i go... Light Over Dark This way too...

It's True All that Really Separates

A Hero From a Villain Now Is

Empathy And Love for ALL Others;

'Trump' Is 'the Quintessential
Metaphor' for the Villain as Far

Away From Real As A Real Hero and Alpha Male Comes And Goes As 'They'

Will Fall As They Always Do; As Just Watch How Far Trump is gonna fall next....

And True This Also Happens to 'Empathic Angels' Too; They Fall With the Loss

of Love of Empathy And Altruism too.. It's Also True as Science Shows, Some Folks

Have No Perspective Born to Ever be An Alpha Male And or Female At all..

"Life isn't

Fair Little One"

As Quoted By 'Scar' In the

'Lion King Movie' Before A Mouse

Escapes Becoming A "Man"; (Hero) (Alpha Leader) Many Other Metaphors

For this Responsibility of the Hero Archetype Felt at Core of Soul; The Kind of Hero That Would Never

Torture someone forever either; for Only a True Psychopath; Man And Or God, would that Do that for Real...

i don't believe

in that God

And

Or Man;

i am A

Higher 'Force'

of Love Than that by far;

Just because i Can, Will, Do Take

'The Responsibility' and fulfill it each day...

Yeah, Yeah, Been Financially Independent

For 13 Years; That Helps too; Mostly Cause i don't

Care to Spend Money; Filled To The Brim Over Flowing
With Love; A Mother's Gift Born And Bred; Ya Just Always Seem to win...

Light Does Penetrate... Dark...

Indeed i am

A Most Fortunate

One and i Realize

All My Privilege; Gift For Real...

This LiGHT, This LoVE i am For Real...

Remember All that Separates Me too from

A Villain, Is Love And Empathy, all the Other Power-Ups Remain...

i am very

Careful

Not

to Lose the First Two Again...

Falling is No Fun; Neither is Real Hell on Earth Within As

Every Real Reformed Devil Does Not Or Does Feel Heaven;

Well, Let's Just Dance Sing, Chant, If We Can And Will, Heaven IS A Better Other place now...

https://www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_the_surprising_science_of_alpha_males/transcript?language=en

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/walking-the-line-between-good-and-evil-the-common-thread-of-heroes-and-villains/

Humans cooperating is not altruism. It is rational self-interest. It shows that humans value each other and have shared interests. Basically, it shows human beings understand that they can get what they want from each other through meaningful exchange or trade.

Good freakin’ grief, you keep mentioning Jesus. Jesus is the Son of the most self-interested Being in the entire freakin’ universe, man! God valued His favorite creation human beings that He let His Son experience death in order to rescue any willing individual from eternal separation from God upon physical death. It’s the most selfish act imaginable, and you know what? I’m grateful that God is selfish to the extent He wants me in His presence for all eternity.

Empathy is a selfish expression. If serves the self interest of someone who values others and their feelings. Moreover, rational self interest holds that it is the FREE expression of interest in another person.

Altruism is the opposite. The selfless expression of interest in another person is not through the will of the individual, but rather through a senseless moral OBLIGATION to another. It is by force, coercion, control, or otherwise manipulation of individual will. Guilt has long been a primary motivator of altruistic action. What makes YOU so special? Can’t you see this person is hungry? You ate last week, he needs food more than you do. Or can’t you see this man is our savior? How can you have a full meal when he needs comfort and a full belly to make all your decisions for you? Or can’t you see Mother Russia is in the middle of a famine? We require the sacrifice of Ukraine until we get enough food for all to have enough, and some people need food more than others. We’ll come back if there’s anything left to give the farmers.

Altruism does not question, does not reason. It is the total, unthinking sacrifice of everything you are and have for no hope of return. It is death.

Altruism is also a one-way street. There is a giver and a taker. Takers do not give back. Givers do not receive.

Oh...and the saying “it is more blessed to give than receive”? Think logically. Those who give are those who are blessed with an abundance from which they CAN give. What they give always returns to them in more abundance when they give according to value. People who only receive are those who lack the same abundance from which they CAN give. They cannot be more blessed because they cannot give. Those who possess wealth and choose not to give cannot be blessed with any return on their investment. But those who lack material wealth can still be generous in their kindness to others, actions that can generate enough wealth to see that their needs are met. Without that same kindness shared among like-minded people, my family would never have survived the last 5 years.

And while altruism can only be a toxic relationship between givers and takers, rational self interest emphasizes an exchange of values among individuals with unique but overlapping self-interests. You have gasoline. I teach children. I need gasoline to get to work. You need a teacher. You pay me to teach kids, I buy your gasoline. We agree on the value of each, and we both have money left over to do other things that we DON’T have shared value for. If we represent common values with money, now we all have something we can work for.

And with the power of exchange, we HAVE abundance through which we CAN be both givers and receivers. Altruism diminishes that power by reducing human beings to givers only while trusting those in power to do what’s best. The requirement to give and never receive ends with the death of both the giver and taker: by giving everything, the giver can no longer give; the taker cannot survive when there’s nothing left to take.

What “science” shows, if you can even call it that, is not altruism at all.



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THere are Days That A Tree Helps Us Breathe Just By Living...

Smiles; Love/Empathy/Altruism Doesn't Come From a Book;

It Comes Mostly From A Mother Who Births And Nurtures

A Child And Sets A Fire of Altruism in that Child's Soul....

i surely am not to going to Judge you my FRiEnD

As i've heard the Struggles

Of Your Life's

HiStory...

Born of A Mother

Of Love And Nurtured

of Love i Never Run out

of Altruism to Give Now; Not

All Are Born and Bred That/This

Way; and Surely Not Those Raised

By 'Big Trump Daddies' Who Take That Altruism Away from Sons...

Almost Everything, i've ever seen of Christianity Where i Live

Spells Fear and Hate of Different...

It has Very Little to do with

The 'Good Cop Jesus'

As Far as i See

As Far As the Soul Food of Love..

They Feed Folks; That's Helpful...

Yet They Are Still Starved of What 'They' cannot seem to 'see'...

Actually, You Help me understand Why; And i appreciate that....

Yet, Trying to Get You To Understand the Flame Living Within

me may Literally be Impossible...

And Yes,
Science
Does Show Why;

For Some Folks Never

Get the Wiring For Altruism of Love...

Perhaps There is A Chance the Flame will Light..

Other Than That; It's Also A Desert Tribal Religion Tradition

Of SCaRCiTY; Take the Love Away From the Little Boys

So one Day

They may

Have

What it takes

to Take a Life Away

from Another to Protect

Resources in Scarcity, indeed; An Understandable Reality too..

Some Folks, 'Keep the Tradition'; Other Folks Sprout Love Wings And Basically Fly....

Again, No Guarantees...

True Victory Depends

On Mileage

And Make

of Vehicles

And Vessels

Of Altruistic Love

To Come Again or Not...

I've Never Ever Actually Heard Another

Human say 'Altruism' is a Negative Human Virtue;

Yet of course, Obviously, i am not From Where You Live...

And Yes, Of course, Altruism Can And Will Be Taken to the Extreme too;

In Terms of Sacrificing Lives for No 'Real Reason'; And Even Refusing to Butcher

A Cow When Children Are Starving; OBTW, The Human Condition is Far From Rational...

At Best We

Find A Balance

And Actually Enjoy Life..

That Much; i am Expert at; Only (to me)

Here to Show What Heaven Looks Like;

Surely Can't Force Anybody to come and

Breathe this Heaven As Long as someone has

convinced

them

it only

exists in a Dirt Nap;

That's 'Pure Irrationality'

And No Different

Than Living

on "5th Avenue"

Or "Jones' Town Street"....

Nah, i Didn't Get Financially
Independent By 'Abusing the Virtue of Altruism Either'; Or Rationality for that Point as Mostly

My Mind has Been Described as Only A Problem Solving Machine, a 'Good Portion' of my Life...

There are limits; Those who LiVE iN Balance, Thrive Like the Rest of the UniVerse Will...

And Additionally, While This Altruism May Not Be Externally Rewarding; It's Obvious

It is Intrinsically Rewarding; As Animals Don't Have to Go to Church to Do it;

Humans Have Been Rather Slow to Measure Our Internal UNiVerses; For Good

Reason that it is

Beyond Measure;

As One Person

Who is Rich by Stuff/

Money May Experience Hell Within;

And Only Hope for Heaven in a Dirt Nap;

And Another Human Poor of Money/Stuff May BREaTHE Heaven

Within THeir Entire Life; Obviously, 'the Angel In Heaven' is Gonna

Be More Altruistic....

Yes, i understand

my Privilege

The Gift
Of A Mother

Indeed and the

Lottery of Human Existence to Be i am...

Smiles my Friend in 'Real Life' Some Folks Light

Up the Room Wherever they Go; Smiles

my Friend in Real Life Some Folks

Do Not;

Just like

Some Folks

Dance And Some Folks Do Not;

As Documented in 'Guardians of the Galaxy of Love' too...

It's True There Are

Days Where it is

Plentiful

Altruism

When A Human

oF Light Just Enters a Room...

For even A Small Flame Will Light a Darkest Room....

In Other Words, It is the Force of one's Energy up or down....

Happy Hairless

Apes and

Sad Ones

too Gnashing

Their Teeth And

Weeping Life's otherwise gifts....

If THere is Good News; THere is change... For LiGHT out of DarK

And Again, All of this may BE A Moot And Worthless Point for Folks

Who Will Never Have 'Enough'...

So, Who is A Farthest Person

From Heaven on Earth;

Trump Ranks High

On the

Naughty

X-Mas

List....

i don't

suggest
FoLLoWinG that Example... IN ANY WAY...

Once Again, to Reiterate, THere Are Days That

A Tree Helps Us Breathe By Just Living; And In this Way 'God Is Love'...

Yes, An Entire G Root of 'An Equation'... Not Square, Yet Spiraling Free

And This is

A Key

Point

of Altruism...

A UNiVeRSE PLuS

IS ALWaYS GiVinG US...

Or Perhaps, one Does
Not Understand

'What

{Groot}

And

Or

{Jesus}

Or

And

{God}

Said'

'{i am} Groot'

And That's Enough...


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22 Dec 2020, 3:47 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Stephen Covey walks the line on between wishful thinking and reality by teaching visualization. It’s really just an exercise or thought experiment, purely psychological. Where do you want to be in 20 years? To get there, where do you have to be in 10 years? To get there, where do you have to be in 5 years? 3 years? 2 years? Next year? How does achieving next year’s goal affect what you do today and tomorrow? If you can imagine what the future looks like, you can begin taking steps to realize that future. You may change your mind along the way, you may have to make adjustments, but achieving the future you want, shaping reality, is more difficult if you have no vision of what reality or future should even be.


Nah, Not Just 'Psychological', Science Shows One Will Get Empirically

Measurably Physically Stronger Just by Imagining Getting

Stronger In Visualization As Mind And Matter; Yes,

Mind Over Body Connects This Way; It Shouldn't take

A 'Bible Scientist' to see

"This is the Faith

Of How

A

Mustard

Seed Grows"

Or How Else Do You Explain

A 60 Year-Old Dude Leg Pressing

More Than Any Of the Other Dudes

Will Budge at a Military Gym, 4 Decades

My Junior; A Hell of a Story Indeed that

Ends Up Being Heaven when the Boy who

Does Not Speak Until 4, and is Picked Last

Kid in Sports is the Strongest Leg Pressing

60 Year-Old Dude in the Room

With an 8.8 MiLLioN

Word EPiC Long Form Poem

And 14,199 Miles of Public

Dance in the Same 88 Months, 53 to 60,

After Spending a Stint in Hell Within Before

For 66 Months then With a Life Threatening

Synergy of 19 Disorders; Yes Shut-In, From

Wake to Sleep With Type-Two Trigeminal

Neuralgia, No Drug Would Touch Assessed as the

Literal Suicide Disease And Worse than the Real Torture

Of Crucifixion too; Perhaps, You Didn't Get Informed about

The John 14:12 Part also that is Living Through Hell as Well

As Generating Heaven Now More Within in John 14:12 Ways and Don't

Forget Luke 17:21, Please That The Kingdom of Heaven

And God Will Only Be Found

Within Now;

Oh Yeah; And there
is that Bit About Mustard

Seeds Towering Over Other Trees;

Yet, Only With Enough Belief And Faith

In Love to Make Real Miracles Happen

Within ON Earth for All to See; Yes,

My FRiEnD

Not all

Take

That Responsibility

To BelieVE iN Miracles

With the Faith of the Mustard

Tree Growing; Indeed, instead

Some folks are Trapped In Books

For Ever Never Getting Out of the 'Science

Of Music and Poetry too'; So do Explain

How Syd

Barret

and

Jimi Hendrix

Play Guitar and of Course

Will Be Remembered

As Long

As It

Does Not

Come Out of a Music Class;

Nah, Much Deeper, the Magic of Life That Breathes (God)

And True, Before i developed This Amazing Magic of Faith

And Belief of the Mustard Tree Towering Over Other Trees

Of Faith and Belief, i only Leg Pressed 500 Pounds at 53 Years-

Old and now up to 1520 Pounds at 60 Years-Old; Sure, i have 1340

Pounds, Pressing 12 Reps at 100 Seconds Very Slowly at a 90 Degree

Angle Still on YouTube; But That was When close to 59 as i am even Stronger Now at 60...

As Always Evidence on Demand, Documenting it all on this Website too as the Human

Potential continued/continues to increase More and More; as i have More evidence that

You will likely not imagine....

There really isn't much

Difference Between

Some 'Atheists'

And 'Scientists'

Still Now And

'Fundamentalist

Christians'; They

Are Rigid In What

They Believe Reality Even is...

It's a Lot more NOT Like the 'Matrix'

Part of that Movie; at Least for Us 'Neos', Now my Friend...

Obviously, Those Ghost Writers/Pen Name Authors of Certain Sections

At Least of the New Testament Have 'Seen' A bit of What i See More of Now...

And It's True, it did provide some Helpful Hints along the way as Long as i

Discarded the

Chaff as i continue to do...

It's true, There is Use for 'Gehenna' too...

Basically, 'A Story of Jesus' Is Just Another Story of A Dude
Who Remembers What Humanity Has Forgotten and
Uses it to Increase More of This Human Potential...

Obviously, Folks Stuck in the Mud

Are gonna Need A Huge 4-Wheel Drive

to Pull them out or an 18-Wheeler as such...

As That is Human Nature too; Stagnating or

Continuing to Grow Fresher in Colors Ever more now...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/altruism

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-grow-stronger-without-lifting-weights/


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22 Dec 2020, 7:55 pm

AngelRho, I would love to listen to some of your music. Could you post some samples please?



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22 Dec 2020, 9:22 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
AngelRho, I would love to listen to some of your music. Could you post some samples please?

https://angelrho.bandcamp.com/album/green-sahara

Most recent thing I’ve done. I’ve got a lot more where that came from, but as I was listening back to my material for the 2nd album like that, it occurred to me that the synth programming was severely lacking and far below my ability, imagination, and standards. I think with Green Sahara I’m on the right track, but still have a long way to go.

At present I’m programming a Waldorf Blofeld. My base patches are fine. Now I’m working on automation to morph from one sound program (or patch) to another using only control data. Had a breakthrough today...successfully created control arrays that follow the logistic function. Now I have to repeat for multiple parameters and figure out where to place the code within the composition algorithm so it will render a proper MIDI file. Writing MIDI is weird for me because each event counts ticks from the last event, and note off events are separate events. I usually work from a time-point paradigm, i.e. a point within a regular cycle. So now I have to alter my program to calculate event durations to schedule when controller events happen and coordinate that with note on and note off messages. The best way to think about what I’m trying to do is a fusion of Webern’s 12-tone approach, Babbitt’s handling of rhythm, Cage’s aleatoric strategies, and Xenakis’ mathematical rigor. It’s the math part that’s got me down. I’m also borrowing from Carnatic tradition to generate synthetic scales, and I’m using something similar to Euclidean rhythms. I’m less concerned for harmony right now, but I have some ideas I’d like to experiment with in the next year. It’s basically what I’m going for, and I don’t feel any urgent need to fix anything in that area just yet.

I’m very, very picky about it. The stuff I’m not comfortable making public just doesn’t get the overall effect consistently enough, so I choose to compromise to get something listenable. As long as it helps my wife relax, I’m content to play it in the privacy of my home. I wouldn’t dare share anything in public I felt I compromised on, and I admit I’m uneasy even playing it for her. But that just makes it all the more urgent that I make better music.

Good job on practicing your Dale Carnegie skills, btw. :mrgreen:



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22 Dec 2020, 9:48 pm

^^^

Good Work; Would Be
Perfect for a Movie Score...:)


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