Armed protests planned in all 50 states

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I'm always being treated like I am a trump supporter when I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy that imbues the discussions.
And, whenever I say there is right and wrong on *both* sided, I am labelled rightwing, by some.
Trying to be objective/moderate is heavily criticised.

I am not saying I don't have a political leaning. I don't have to be completely impartial. I simply strive for being fairminded and identifying inconsistencies.
It is an intellectual exercise, more than anything else.

The problem is, one has to be very careful in a toxic partisan environment since any give on my side is exploited to the hilt.

These 'discussions' aren't discussions. They are point-scoring exercises in a debate.
I used to prefer mutual enlightenment rather than games of "one-up-man-ship".

I expected more when I first came here 7.5 years ago.
Silly me.

I have pretty much given up on having 'discussions', these days.
I see it more a case of refining my reasoning skills.
I can live with that.



Just a song.
No inherent message in it.

Tempus Fugit wasn't banned, btw. He asked to be removed.
He did nothing wrong.
He simply had enough and moved on.

But he asked to be banned so he is still a banned member. Removed members count as banned member as well since no user here can actually be removed since accounts don't get deleted here. Unless an admin here thinks you had different accounts that were not yours and you had trolls that impersonated you too much. Gee I must have been that popular that former users here would want to pretend to be me. Just my speculation.

You are being very autistically literal here.
The difference is that him asking to be 'banned' was not a result of wrong-doing, and this is key.



True, but you are being 'literal'.
If it were possible for people to opt for:
"I have decided to go bye bye and don't want to be tempus fugit temped in coming back, so I got the admin/mod to lock me out",
I think they might.



Let us stop talking about this, hokay.

No doubt, from their point of view, what happened at mid-day would count as "something bad"...

You don't know what happens out of your view.
For privacy reasons, I won't discuss it any further.
A member banned on their own request is still a banned member and the rule applies.

On an Autism forum? Whatever next?

That could simply be taken as "showing good reasoning", especially as a Mod has specifically enforced exactly the same interpretation.

You're always very keen to claim a balanced perspective but that 'balance' is still subject to context and personal bias. What if your compromise mid-point is somewhere around the political stance of Ghenghis Khan? Then you'd constantly be feeling persecuted by the "far left" when actually, they're not that far left and also behaving more rationally than you think. It feeds straight into the "tortured independent thinker, persecuted by heathens" theme you often pedal. At the end of the day your efforts to police debate in order to virtue signal about your own unique standpoint is a strategy that only works for you - nobody else has to pay it any heed.

By all means point out BS but recognise your own, too. Smugness has never persuaded anyone to change their mind about anything - it's far more likely to cause doubling-down. And I'm sure you know that, but do it anyway just so you can be outraged, even though that was the whole idea. Which is exactly the sort of "woke" behaviour you'd instantly object to if anyone else did it.

A case in point was the example earlier in this thread where I said any Trump supporters blaming his opponents for all the trouble he's caused because they'd 'triggered' his more unhinged side, were effectively gaslighting. It is equivalent to blaming a domestic abuse victim for the actions of their attacker. "Not his fault, you knew what would happen if the dinner wasn't ready on time, so you deserved it". Note the wording. Any Trump supporters who believe this. So if you DON'T believe it, by definition the comment isn't aimed at you, is it? Didn't stop you trying to make it all about you, though, just so you could get huffy about it, despite your refined reasoning skills.

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Most everybody here have been bullied outsiders. When that happens it is easy to misperceive widespread disagreement with you as more bullying. To be bullying, it has to be intentional and I do not think that is the case most of the time here.

Bullying rarely happens here.
I find it ironic autism symptoms can get mistaken for bullying. Look at fnord derangement syndrome.

There’s a problem with people feeling that conservative politics aren’t accepted with open arms around here?

Oh, gee, I wonder why people on a racially & culturally diverse forum of disabled people wouldn’t take too kindly to those who’s political beliefs centre around the conservation of white cis masculine privilege, global Christianity, intolerance of others, denial of facts & science, as well as racial & other parity, and an opposition to socialized medicine & welfare programs. It’s so hard to figure out..

<— This is me not caring if so-called “conservatives,” (wtf are they conserving? It’s not the rainforests, oceans or air ??) feel uncomfortable about expressing their dislike for their fellow man here and crawl back under their rocks to hide while society marches on & progress is made.

What makes you think he’s a blood thirsty pothead?

I certainly didn’t get pothead vibes from him when I met him.

Blood thirsty? Maaaaybe.. like I’m the business shark sense & he’s all about money and personal gain, perhaps.

The title of this thread "Armed protests planned in all 50 states".

So what actually occurred? Far-left riots erupt in Seattle and Portland on inauguration day

Police declared an unlawful assembly Wednesday night in Portland, Oregon, after about 150 rioters caused damage to a federal immigration facility in the city, according to the authorities. The unrest near the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) building was declared after rioters started throwing rocks and eggs, and vandalizing the building, located in the city's south waterfront neighborhood. "We have observed property damage to the building," the Portland Police Bureau wrote on Twitter. "Anyone who is involved in criminal behavior including: vandalism and graffitting is subject to arrest or citation." Individuals were seen carrying pepper ball guns, electronic control weapons (similar to stun guns) -- shields, fireworks, and rocks. He added that federal law enforcement used "crowd-control munitions."

Seattle, Washington witnessed property damage and objects hurled at cars; reporters said demonstrators were protesting against President Biden and law enforcement, and carried a sign reading, "Abolish ICE."

In Denver, protesters burned an American flag in separate demonstrations that reportedly involved members of the Black Lives Matter movement, as well as others who chanted anti-Trump and anti-Biden slogans.

Authorities said earlier gatherings in Portland -- which saw Antifa protesters clash with authorities as they gathered to voice dissatisfaction with President Biden, forcing officers to retreat and taking at least one police bicycle -- had ended. The Portland Police Bureau said several events were planned in the city just hours after Biden was sworn in and implored the nation to come together. About 150 people gathered at Revolution Hall around 2 p.m. and marched to the headquarters of the Democratic Party of Oregon. The so-called J20 protest was a demonstration against Biden and law enforcement. Some in the group smashed windows and vandalized the building with graffiti. Calls and messages to the party headquarters were not immediately returned.

When the group left the area and marched to a nearby park, police officers made "targeted arrests" in connection to the damage at the local Democratic Party headquarters. The group later dispersed. In total, eight adults were arrested for crimes ranging from rioting and possession of a destructive device to reckless burning. The suspects' ages ranged from 18 to 38. At one point when officers on bicycles entered the crowd to tell someone to remove metal poles affixed to a banner that could be used as a weapon, they were swarmed and pelted with objects. People in the crowd started blocking or stopping officers as they attempted to leave, police said. Officers deployed a smoke canister in an effort to safely leave the area. Authorities warned the group they did not have a permit to march or remain on the sidewalk. The crowd eventually moved west, with some people blocking a freeway on-ramp, police said. Dumpster fires were also lit in the area. Other video clips show people holding banners that read: "We are ungovernable" and "We don't want Biden - We want revenge!" for "Police Murders," "Imperialist Wars" and "Fascist Massacres." Marchers called for an end to the sweeping of homeless encampments and advocated for other social justice causes.

Source: Portland rioters damage ICE building; police declare 'unlawful assembly'

Is it a racial slur or just a simpler less offensive nationality one?

Like does this rank up there with calling a black man the N word or no, nothing like that?

Also, still waiting on Pepe’s response to all of his lies about trump’s record being refuted with facts. Curious how he defends those as impartial truth.. when they are barely even partial truths.

Somehow I don’t think he’s going to respond and admit that he’s been duped by conservative media sources parroting trump’s perceptions of himself.