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18 Jul 2022, 11:26 am

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It's also given the Tories a free hand to ignore human rights. The EU is a centre-left organisation. It was far from perfect but at least it helped to temper the right wing machinations of the UK government here and there. And I've not seen any benefit from leaving yet. The whole venture seems to be based on the myth that the UK would do much better if the superior British master race broke free from the restrictive, bureaucratic yoke of those silly foreigners who never do anything right.

But hey, we can have blue passports now. We might even get a UK crown on our beer glasses, though the EU never tried to stop that as far as I know. And we nearly got a special chiming of Big Ben on glorious Brexit Day, only nobody wanted to pay for it so it didn't happen.


Again, I agree with all you write. I think you are reading my mind.

The British Bill of Rights will be passed soon, and god knows what 'rights' we will have under that...


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18 Jul 2022, 11:55 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
We might even get a UK crown on our beer glasses, though the EU never tried to stop that as far as I know.
True - the only restriction on retaining the crown symbol was that it shouldn't obscure the EU's own symbol.


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18 Jul 2022, 12:35 pm

Sunak and Truss refusing to do TV debates because they are worried about it ruining the image of the Conservative party.

:lol:

I think that ship's well and truly sailed.


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18 Jul 2022, 12:41 pm

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Again, I agree with all you write. I think you are reading my mind.

I guess honest, rational people usually agree when the evidence is overwhelming.



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18 Jul 2022, 3:13 pm

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Sunak and Truss refusing to do TV debates because they are worried about it ruining the image of the Conservative party.

:lol:

I think that ship's well and truly sailed.


Hasn't it just :lol: :lol: :lol:


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18 Jul 2022, 3:14 pm

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KitLily wrote:
Again, I agree with all you write. I think you are reading my mind.

I guess honest, rational people usually agree when the evidence is overwhelming.


Don't forget our high intelligence :)


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19 Jul 2022, 12:23 am

Results from the third round of voting:

1. Rishi Sunak (115 votes)
2. Penny Mordaunt (82)
3. Liz Truss (71)
4. Kemi Badenoch (58)
5. Tom Tugendhat (31) - eliminated

Two more rounds to go on Tuesday and Wednesday until the final two candidates are chosen.

BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62212846


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19 Jul 2022, 2:53 am

Yeah Mordaunt lost a vote whereas the other three gained quite significantly.

I don't know why they're dragging it out for so long.


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19 Jul 2022, 3:39 am

Thought from the start it would be Mourdant but the Party and its media are really working a big campaign to stop that happening

Looking likely now to be Truss imo



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19 Jul 2022, 6:03 am

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Thought from the start it would be Mourdant but the Party and its media are really working a big campaign to stop that happening

Looking likely now to be Truss imo


Ugh. But they are all horrible IMO.

And the Tories will be so happy that they will have a new leader who is either a woman, a person of colour or both. They will use this fact to show how modern and unprejudiced they are. When they aren't.


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19 Jul 2022, 7:03 am

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And the Tories will be so happy that they will have a new leader who is either a woman, a person of colour or both. They will use this fact to show how modern and unprejudiced they are. When they aren't.

Yes all the candidates have great credentials as token equality figures. The irony is amazing - they fall over each other trying to display commitment to race and gender equality, while working hard to make class inequality as bad as they possibly can. A female or black member of the elite gets a penny less salary than a white man, and it's a scandal. The elite get incomes hundreds of times bigger than ordinary people's incomes, and that's perfectly fine. It rather reminds me of Plato's Republic which was wonderfully democratic and fair for the citizens but was OK about having an underclass of slaves.



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19 Jul 2022, 8:58 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
KitLily wrote:
And the Tories will be so happy that they will have a new leader who is either a woman, a person of colour or both. They will use this fact to show how modern and unprejudiced they are. When they aren't.

Yes all the candidates have great credentials as token equality figures. The irony is amazing - they fall over each other trying to display commitment to race and gender equality, while working hard to make class inequality as bad as they possibly can.


Apparently they are happy to have a leader who is in a minority group because 'the left' will be too worried about offending them to criticise them.

I don't even know what to say anymore. It seems the majority of Brits are happy to let the politicians just rule the country anyhow as long as they're personally alright, Jack and unaffected by the politicians. General Election turn out is about 38% as far as I know.

We are in Don't Look Up territory.


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19 Jul 2022, 9:05 am

Badenoch is out. Funny, I was just reading an article saying she could beat any of the others in a vote!


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19 Jul 2022, 9:19 am

If Labour could pick any of them to be up against as PM it would be Truss, and I think it looks now like she will get it. She is absolutely awful. She is a robotic, wooden character who can't deviate from a script.

I think she would give a huge boost to Labour in a GE



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19 Jul 2022, 9:25 am

Definitely. She's picked up momentum in this last vote.

She is awful.


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19 Jul 2022, 9:26 am

KitLily wrote:
Apparently they are happy to have a leader who is in a minority group because 'the left' will be too worried about offending them to criticise them.

I don't even know what to say anymore. It seems the majority of Brits are happy to let the politicians just rule the country anyhow as long as they're personally alright, Jack and unaffected by the politicians. We are in Don't Look Up territory.

People look after their own when the chips are down, and the kind of voluntary solidarity it would take to have an effect is hard to maintain because it's so prone to betrayal by dishonest individuals. But the recent bye-elections had a huge effect. People hate to see politicians behaving as if they're above the law. It's strange how inequality of that kind can provoke such a backlash while other kinds get tacitly ignored. Same principle - disgust at some bigwigs having what they're prosecuting everybody else for.