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23 Sep 2008, 8:07 pm

Please translate. And by the way, what does your signature mean? I don't want to misinterpret it.


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23 Sep 2008, 8:20 pm

Jag kan lite svenska. Hoppas att du gillar det.

Bland skuggor rider en odjur
(Among shadows rides a monster)
Som en svarta träd
(Like a black tree)
Griper hård på en mäktig hammar
([He] grips hard on a mighty hammer)
Ut för svaga kristna blod
(Out for weak Christian blood)

TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)
TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)

Trollhammaren sveper igen!
(The Troll Hammer comes down again!)
Hugga ned, broder igen!
(Hew down, brother, again!)
Hör det sista ropet
(Hear the final cry)
Trollhammaren är här!
(The Troll Hammer is here!)

TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)

Han är inte en människa
(He is no man)
Inte bräcklig och svag som dig
(Not feeble and weak like you.) [should actually be "som du", at least in modern Swedish ... this is arcane though, so I don't know what standards they would have]
Du ska vara maktlös
(You shall find yourself powerless)
Inga ögon ser din änd
(No eyes will see your end)

TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)
TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)

Sedan mörkret övertog
(Then the darkness took over)
Räds den frostens kalla fingrar
(Fearful of the frost's cold fingers)
Som griper tag och förlever
(That take hold and persist)
Under kommande vinternatt
(In the coming winter night)

TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)
TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)
TROLLHAMMAREN!
(The Troll Hammer!)

my sig is from a poem by Longfellow, The Challenge of Thor


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24 Sep 2008, 1:57 am

Trolling can be fun. :D

That smiley face is a jerk.

I'm trolling my own thread. :roll:

Thanks for the music and all. :twisted:
Wow, Chever you are really deep sometimes. I sense a little anger and hostility. Okay, so you are a math whiz, get over yourself.
Are you planning to work for the government? Because that would make you sort of biased.

Do you like the idea of self reliance?
That is what this topic is about after all.


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24 Sep 2008, 2:07 am

Magnus wrote:
Wow, Chever you are really deep sometimes. I sense a little anger and hostility.


It's metal; what did you expect...

Magnus wrote:
Okay, so you are a math whiz, get over yourself.


For the sake of the capillaries on my forehead, refrain from writing things like this. They aren't productive at any rate.

Magnus wrote:
Are you planning to work for the government? Because that would make you sort of biased.


Maybe. Whose government, I don't know. If I get as angry at the world as I have been before, it will definitely be the US government and the technological powder keg it is quietly assembling. Otherwise it might be someone else. But part of me will always want to see the autonomous weapons genie come out of its lamp ... and not go back.

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Do you like the idea of self reliance?


No, because freedom is pretty much illusory no matter who you are. Almost no one is entirely self-reliant...or even close...

If you are one of those Vietnam veterans who lives in the woods in Hawaii without a home, come and tell me about 'self-reliance'


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24 Sep 2008, 2:45 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqWHDuOpc4&feature=related[/youtube]


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24 Sep 2008, 4:58 am

chever wrote:
Source code please.
Here is a simple database macro. Piece of piss.
Code:
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError
'Disables Close Button
Application.EnableCancelKey = xlDisabled
'Shows Login Form at Startup
frmLogin.Show

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub

Private Sub cmdDelete_Click()
frmDelete.Show
End Sub

Private Sub cmdDeposit_Click()
frmDepositGate.Show
End Sub

Private Sub cmdLogout_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub

Private Sub cmdNew_Click()
frmNew.Show
End Sub

Private Sub cmdShutdown_Click()
ThisWorkbook.Save
End
End Sub

Private Sub cmdWithdraw_Click()
frmWithdrawGate.Show
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub

Private Sub cmdBack_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub
Private Sub cmdProceed_Click()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

If Len(txtName) <> 0 Then
    If Len(txtPassword1) <> 0 Then
        If Len(txtPassword2) <> 0 Then
           
        Else
            MsgBox ("Please re-type Admin password")
            Exit Sub
        End If
    Else
        MsgBox ("Please type the Admin password")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter a name")
    Exit Sub
End If
Sheet1.Unprotect
Range("A1").Select
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
Do
    ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
Loop Until ActiveCell.Text = "Admin Account"
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
If txtPassword1.Value = ActiveCell Then
    If txtPassword2.Text = txtPassword1.Text Then
        strOldName = txtName.Text
    Else
        MsgBox ("Passwords do not match")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Incorrect Password")
    Exit Sub
End If
Range("A1").Select
Do
    ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
Loop Until ActiveCell.Text = strOldName
ActiveCell.Value = ""
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
ActiveCell.Value = ""
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
ActiveCell.Value = ""
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
ActiveCell.Value = ""
MsgBox ("Account Deleted")
txtName.Text = ""
txtPassword1.Text = ""
txtPassword2.Text = ""
txtName.SetFocus
Sheet1.Protect

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Range("A1").Select
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub

Private Sub cmdBack_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub

Private Sub cmdProceed_Click()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

'Validation
If Len(txtName.Value) <> 0 Then
    If Len(txtAmount.Value) <> 0 Then
   
    Else
        MsgBox ("Please enter amount")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter Student Name")
    Exit Sub
End If

'This performs the Deposit
DepositName = txtName.Text
DepositAmount = txtAmount.Text
Sheet1.Unprotect
Range("A1").Select
Do
    ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
Loop Until ActiveCell.Value = txtName
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 3).Select
ActiveCell.Value = ActiveCell.Value + txtAmount.Value
strAmountLeft = ActiveCell.Text
MsgBox (txtName & " 's current balance is £" & ActiveCell.Text)
'This calls the function which prints the Deposit Receipt
Call Deposit_Receipt
Sheet1.Protect

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Range("A1").Select
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub

Private Sub cmdLogin_Click()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

'This is used for the validation function
blnUserFound = False
blnTypeFound = False
blnPasswordFound = False
blnAdmin = False
'This checks to see if the boxes are empty.
If Len(txtUserName) <> 0 Then
    If Len(cboAccountType) <> 0 Then
       If Len(txtPassword) <> 0 Then
        strUserName = txtUserName.Text
        strAccountType = cboAccountType.Text
        strPassword = txtPassword.Text
        Else
            MsgBox ("Please enter your password")
            Exit Sub
            End If
    Else
        MsgBox ("Please select an Account Type")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter your Username")
    Exit Sub
End If
Call Interest
Call Login_1

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_Activate()
cboAccountType.AddItem "Student Account"
cboAccountType.AddItem "Admin Account"

End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub


Private Sub cmdAdd_Click()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

'Checks to see if user has entered no data
If Len(txtName) <> 0 Then
    If Len(cboAccountType) <> 0 Then
        If Len(txtPassword1) <> 0 Then
            If Len(txtPassword2) <> 0 Then
                If txtPassword2.Value = txtPassword1.Value Then
                    strNewName = txtName.Text
                    strNewAccountType = cboAccountType.Text
                    strNewPassword = txtPassword1.Text
                Else
                    MsgBox ("The passwords you typed don't match")
                    Exit Sub
                End If
            Else
                MsgBox ("Please re-type the password")
                Exit Sub
            End If
        Else
            MsgBox ("Please enter a passsword")
            Exit Sub
        End If
    Else
        MsgBox ("Please select an Account Type")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter a name")
    Exit Sub
End If
'Finds empty cell
Range("A1").Select
Do
    ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
Loop Until ActiveCell.Value = ""
'Adds entry
Sheet1.Unprotect
ActiveCell.Value = strNewName
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
ActiveCell.Value = strNewAccountType
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
ActiveCell.Value = strNewPassword
'Resets form
Sheet1.Protect
txtName.Text = ""
cboAccountType.Text = ""
txtPassword1.Text = ""
txtPassword2.Text = ""
txtName.SetFocus

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Range("A1").Select
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub
Private Sub cmdBack_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub
Private Sub UserForm_Initialize()
cboAccountType.AddItem "Admin Account"
cboAccountType.AddItem "Student Account"
End Sub
Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub

Private Sub cmdLogout_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub

Private Sub cmdWithdraw_Click()
frmWithdrawGate.Show
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub
Private Sub cmdBack_Click()
Unload Me
End Sub

Private Sub cmdProceed_Click()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError
'Validation
If Len(txtName.Value) <> 0 Then
    If Len(txtPassword.Value) <> 0 Then
        If Len(txtWithdraw.Value) <> 0 Then
           
        Else
            MsgBox ("Please enter a value")
            Exit Sub
        End If
    Else
        MsgBox ("Please enter Password")
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter a name")
    Exit Sub
End If
WithdrawName = txtName.Text
WithdrawPassword = txtPassword.Text
WithdrawAmount = txtWithdraw.Text
Sheet1.Unprotect
Range("A1").Select
Do
    ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
Loop Until ActiveCell.Value = txtName
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 2).Select
If ActiveCell.Value = txtPassword Then
    ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
    If ActiveCell.Value <> 0 Then
        ActiveCell.Value = ActiveCell.Value - txtWithdraw.Text
        strNewAmount = ActiveCell.Text
        MsgBox (txtName & " 's current balance is £" & ActiveCell.Text)
        Call Credit_Note
    Else
        MsgBox ("Insufficient Funds")
        Sheet1.Protect
        Exit Sub
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Please enter a password")
    Sheet1.Protect
    Exit Sub
End If
'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Sheet1.Protect
    Exit Sub
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error. " & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Sub

Private Sub UserForm_QueryClose(Cancel As Integer, CloseMode As Integer)
If CloseMode = 0 Then Cancel = True
End Sub

Function Deposit_Receipt()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

Dim objWord As Word.Application
MsgBox ("Printing Receipt")

'Create the variable objects that references the
'Microsoft Word object model
Dim oWord As Word.Application
Dim oDoc As Word.Document
Set oWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")

oWord.Documents.Add (ThisWorkbook.Path & "\Deposit Receipt.dot")

'Show the document you have created
oWord.Visible = True

With oWord.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks
    .Item("UserName").Range.Text = DepositName
    .Item("AmountDeposited").Range.Text = DepositAmount
    .Item("AmountLeft").Range.Text = strAmountLeft
End With

'Print the document
oWord.PrintOut

'Tidy up the objects you have created
Set oDoc = Nothing
Set oWord = Nothing

'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Function
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Function

Function Credit_Note()
'Error Handling
On Error GoTo HandleError

Dim objWord As Word.Application
MsgBox ("Printing Receipt")

'Create the variable objects that reference the
'Microsoft Word object model
Dim oWord As Word.Application
Dim oDoc As Word.Document
Set oWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")

oWord.Documents.Add (ThisWorkbook.Path & "\Credit Note Template.dot")

'Show the document you have created
oWord.Visible = True

With oWord.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks
    .Item("UserName").Range.Text = WithdrawName
    .Item("AmountWithdrawn").Range.Text = WithdrawAmount
    .Item("AmountLeft").Range.Text = strNewAmount
End With

'Print the document
oWord.PrintOut

'Tidy up the objects you have created
Set oDoc = Nothing
Set oWord = Nothing
'Error Handling Continued
HandleExit:
    Exit Function
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Function

Public DepositName As String
Public DepositAmount As String
Public WithdrawName As String
Public WithdrawPassword As String
Public WithdrawAmount As String
Public CurrentAmount As String
Public strNewAmount As String
Public strAmountLeft As String
Public strUserName As String
Public strAccountType As String
Public strPassword As String
Public blnUserFound As Boolean
Public blnTypeFound As Boolean
Public blnPassword As Boolean
Public blnAdmin As Boolean
Public strNewName As String
Public strNewAccountType As String
Public strNewPassword As String
Public strOldName As String
Public Date_1, Day_1 As Date

Function Login_1()
On Error GoTo HandleError

Sheet1.Unprotect
For Each objCell In Range("UserName")
    If objCell.Value = strUserName Then
        blnUserFound = True
        Exit For
    End If
Next
If blnUserFound = True Then
    MsgBox ("UserName Found")
Else
    MsgBox ("UserName not found")
    Exit Function
End If
objCell.Select
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
If ActiveCell.Value = strAccountType Then
    MsgBox ("Correct Account Type")
    blnTypeFound = True
    If strAccountType = "Admin Account" Then
        blnAdmin = True
    Else
       
    End If
Else
    MsgBox ("Incorrect Account Type")
    Exit Function
End If
ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Select
If ActiveCell.Value = strPassword Then
    MsgBox ("Correct Password")
    blnPassword = True
Else
    MsgBox ("Incorrect Password")
    Exit Function
End If
Sheet1.Protect
If blnAdmin = True Then
    MsgBox ("Welcome" & strUserName)
    frmLogin.txtUserName.Text = ""
    frmLogin.cboAccountType.Text = ""
    frmLogin.txtPassword.Text = ""
    frmAdmin.Show
Else
    MsgBox ("Welcome " & strUserName)
    frmStudent.Show
    frmLogin.txtUserName.Text = ""
    frmLogin.cboAccountType.Text = ""
    frmLogin.txtPassword.Text = ""
End If
HandleExit:
    Exit Function
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Function

Function Interest()
On Error GoTo HandleError

Date_1 = Date
Day_1 = Day(Date_1)
If Day_1 = 1 Then
    Sheet1.Unprotect
    Range("D2").Select
    Do
        ActiveCell.Value = ActiveCell.Value + (ActiveCell.Value / 100 / 2)
        ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select
    Loop Until ActiveCell.Value = ""
    Sheet1.Protect
Else
    Exit Function
Sheet1.Protect
End If

HandleExit:
    Exit Function
HandleError:
    MsgBox ("Bzzzt. Error" & Err.Description)
    Resume HandleExit
End Function


chever wrote:
Bwa ha ha ha, right, understanding the Universe itself is 'easy' and 'unfulfilling'.
Exactly. Science is overated. It is no more difficult than anything else. All you have to do to make it in science is to say what everybody else says and you become a scientists or a university lecturer. If you are a scientist and discover something new or develop a new hypothesis or theory then, either you get pushed aside and are only wheeled out at photo-shoots and TV appearances or you become one of the 'elite' and you become some sort of sage and get wheeled out at conventions to be reffered to regarding science matters. When you are not doing those things then you are kept in a box, where you spend time writing books about how much you hate everything that is not science and everbody who is not a scientist.

chever wrote:
Jealous much?
Right, I can see why I would be jealous of somebody who can't understand plain simple English and explodes every time someone says something they think is wrong and somehow believes that they have all knowledge and understanding of everything. Take your overbloated head out of your arse and then maybe your previous arrogant blindness will disspate and be absolved.

chever wrote:
If you really found such things easy, you would have been able to answer the question I posed several posts ago.
Answer it yourself lazy, after all you are supposed to be an "expert".

chever wrote:
Racist much?
A name is not a race and unless it is their real name, then still, no. Although, for the record, I was not deliberately being racist, so sorry for that.

chever wrote:
That implies little about quality of life, lol. Making eight hundred pounds an hour in a s**thole would cancel out the monetary gain.
Actually, living in a s**t hole would improve things as everything is cheaper and I would be more able to help other people in the s**t hole. Besides, with enough money, I could always, you know, move somewhere else. Duh.

chever wrote:
Then the feeling's mutual. (Apparently you care enough to whine about it on your myspace.)
I don't feel aggravated, I'm too busy laughing at you. I don't think laughing about it to other people counts as whining... or caring.

chever wrote:
Spend less time on /b/ and more time studying and you might not be such a loser...
Says the guy who can't understand English. I don't think spending time reading the Origin of Species and other such books counts as, spending time on /b/, which I do not even do anyway.

chever wrote:
For the sake of the capillaries on my forehead, refrain from writing things like this. They aren't productive at any rate.
Quick, let's keep at it!

chever wrote:
Yeah, LOL, I know what they are, and how to write them.
No, you just know how to write mathematical proof. Other than that you have no clue of what the words proof, prove or proven mean.

Magnus wrote:
Do you like the idea of self reliance?
The government has more or less made that impossible. Land is a commodity to be bought and sold and you need money to own land and buildings. You need money to buy food and so on and so on. We are solely reliant on money to get the things we need. We are more or less slaves to society.


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24 Sep 2008, 5:04 am

What the hell are you talking about.
:?:


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24 Sep 2008, 5:07 am

Fight Club!

Maybe I should rephrase that, the government has made self-reliance very hard to acheive.


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24 Sep 2008, 5:45 am

I guess there is some history to this fight club that I'm not aware of.
Have you read this?
http://www.emersoncentral.com/selfreliance.htm


Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote:

Quote:
Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. Absolve you to yourself, and you shall have the suffrage of the world. I remember an answer which when quite young I was prompted to make to a valued adviser, who was wont to importune me with the dear old doctrines of the church. On my saying, What have I to do with the sacredness of traditions, if I live wholly from within? my friend suggested, — "But these impulses may be from below, not from above." I replied, "They do not seem to me to be such; but if I am the Devil's child, I will live then from the Devil." No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution, the only wrong what is against it.


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24 Sep 2008, 6:05 am

Magnus wrote:
I guess there is some history to this fight club that I'm not aware of.
Have you read this?
http://www.emersoncentral.com/selfreliance.htm


Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote:
Quote:
Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. Absolve you to yourself, and you shall have the suffrage of the world. I remember an answer which when quite young I was prompted to make to a valued adviser, who was wont to importune me with the dear old doctrines of the church. On my saying, What have I to do with the sacredness of traditions, if I live wholly from within? my friend suggested, — "But these impulses may be from below, not from above." I replied, "They do not seem to me to be such; but if I am the Devil's child, I will live then from the Devil." No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution, the only wrong what is against it.
Finally. Back on topic!

No I have not read this before but it was interesting. If by, self-reliant, you therefore mean to avoid conformity and false consistency, and follow your own instincts and ideas, then that is definitely a good idea and I guess I am self-reliant under that definition.

It is still hard to acheive this, there is a myriad of problems that serve to rob you of your common and sense and blind you of your reason. I.E. The media. I guess it depends on how gullible the people are, but millions of people are brainwashed to live the "ideal lifestyle" or to be "perfect" by the media every day and many view people outside this "ideal lifestyle" or "state of perfection" as an "outcast" for not conforming to the unthinking majority of society.


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24 Sep 2008, 6:21 am

It looks like it's just you and me tonight Sling. I can't sleep!

Anyways, it should be so easy to just have control of our own mind. I admit that I am brainwashed a little.
When I read people like Emerson it reminds that there is more to life than being bombarded with outside stimuli.
If we had no books, tv, computers, radio, and newspapers, where will we be? In a perfect state probably.


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24 Sep 2008, 6:58 am

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It looks like it's just you and me tonight Sling. I can't sleep!
It's a little after midday here. I have to leave soon for college so I can go create obscure musical fusion with crazy jazz men.

Magnus wrote:
Anyways, it should be so easy to just have control of our own mind. I admit that I am brainwashed a little.
When I read people like Emerson it reminds that there is more to life than being bombarded with outside stimuli.
If we had no books, tv, computers, radio, and newspapers, where will we be? In a perfect state probably.

Books and so on are good, but they can also be bad. There are two sides to everything. On one hand, some people are gullible and believe information presented to them without question but books can be used to make one think about and question things.

Have you seen the second AvP film? The army is going to nuke the town but tells the civilians they are to be rescued. A few people puzzle out the goverments true motives but one women actually says: "The government doesn't lie to people!". I laughed. Out loud. But this is a perfect demonstration of gullibility and unthinking.


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24 Sep 2008, 7:47 am

That is hilarious and ridiculous.

I used to work at a movie theater. It was my first job when I was 16. It was always very loud and I hated feeling like I was always bombarded with noise and consumer packaging. They had all these video games that were loud too. One time I was putting butter on the popcorn and I kept hearing a woman on the video game yelling during a shoot 'em up killing spree, "Oh no, my baby! my baby!"

As I listened to the screams of war, I started daydreaming about all the killing and then the customer had to say, "Okay! That's enough butter!" I was in a stupor and I realized I squirted way too much butter and then I just sort of tossed it back into the bin which was a bad thing to do since some people refuse to eat that hydrogenated mess. He looked at me like I was on drugs. :lol: But really I was just in a sort of trance or something.

I think I quit that job after like 2 weeks because I didn't like working weekends. I got a job taking surveys in the mall the same day I quit. I used to forge all the surveys so don't believe all the consumer reports. :wink: One time we had to ask people about the Lexus automobile and what they thought of the stupid commercial. I wrote in all the comments that the people said that the commercial reminded them of Alexis from the soap opera Dynasty and that it made them feel like the car was very sophisticated like her.
Nobody mentioned it and I think they believed it. Just in case you don't get that, Alexis sounds like a Lexus.

This is Alexis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2aboicW ... re=related

This is the Lexus commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8etyZkf ... re=related

And this is how this all relates to the topic here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_fnOYVuTE0


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24 Sep 2008, 1:57 pm

An Arch (y) Angel topic

Well, this is the anarchy thread. Getting sticky!

Soon to be a graphic novel, or maybe a major motion picture!! :lol: :lol:

Seriously, though. Just another day at Wring-my-hands Planet. Gotta love it.

Great topic, Magnus.


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24 Sep 2008, 2:10 pm

Sling wrote:
Magnus wrote:
I guess there is some history to this fight club that I'm not aware of.
Have you read this?
http://www.emersoncentral.com/selfreliance.htm


Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote:
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Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. Absolve you to yourself, and you shall have the suffrage of the world. I remember an answer which when quite young I was prompted to make to a valued adviser, who was wont to importune me with the dear old doctrines of the church. On my saying, What have I to do with the sacredness of traditions, if I live wholly from within? my friend suggested, — "But these impulses may be from below, not from above." I replied, "They do not seem to me to be such; but if I am the Devil's child, I will live then from the Devil." No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution, the only wrong what is against it.
Finally. Back on topic!

No I have not read this before but it was interesting. If by, self-reliant, you therefore mean to avoid conformity and false consistency, and follow your own instincts and ideas, then that is definitely a good idea and I guess I am self-reliant under that definition.

It is still hard to acheive this, there is a myriad of problems that serve to rob you of your common and sense and blind you of your reason. I.E. The media. I guess it depends on how gullible the people are, but millions of people are brainwashed to live the "ideal lifestyle" or to be "perfect" by the media every day and many view people outside this "ideal lifestyle" or "state of perfection" as an "outcast" for not conforming to the unthinking majority of society.



oh my gosh yes... I have been mislead to a degree, with the alien stuff...

But im back and my conscience is clearer.. There is a lot of obstacles to avoid when dealing with truth.. you truly have to think for yourself and be the ruler of your own conscience.



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24 Sep 2008, 2:32 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
But im back and my conscience is clearer.. There is a lot of obstacles to avoid when dealing with truth.. you truly have to think for yourself and be the ruler of your own conscience.


“For why should it be that my freedom is judged by another person's conscience?”

"For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. This will be in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare."

1Corinthians 10:29 + Romans2:13

In other words..

Self regulation.. rules.. much better than governments..:-)

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