Ultraconservatives pretend homophobia/racism doesn't exist

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Which minority groups do ultraconservatives hate the most?
Gays & Lesbians 21%  21%  [ 10 ]
African Americans 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
The Poor 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Hispanic Immigrants 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Interracial Same-Sex Couples 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Atheists 13%  13%  [ 6 ]
Non-Christian Religionists 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Other Minority Group 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
All of the Above 44%  44%  [ 21 ]
Total votes : 48

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15 Nov 2010, 1:31 am

@LKL

There is no such thing as 'reverse racism' it is plain racism.

Racism is racism whether it is racism towards blacks or racism towards whites.



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15 Nov 2010, 5:19 am

LKL why do you find it odd that people identify with a separate group and hold that groups interests first? I find it odd that you claim to be befuddled by him putting stock in something so small its very common place a very simple thing to understand. Besides that, you don't really know if he's concerned about genes he could be concerned about his own nations culture which most certainly will be effected.



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16 Nov 2010, 6:20 pm

He has explicitely claimed that racism is in his 'genetic interest,' not in his 'cultural interest.' He has kept the argument almost exclusively in the realm of biology, even when I have provided opportunities to shift it to culture.

I find it strange that someone how knows even a modicum of biology would fail to understand that 'race' is practically meaningless in the long run, and that mixing and matching alleles with those who are different from us is very beneficial in the short run.



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16 Nov 2010, 7:18 pm

I care more about the fact you are practicing racism and accusing other people of racism.



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16 Nov 2010, 7:20 pm

LKL wrote:
He has explicitely claimed that racism is in his 'genetic interest,' not in his 'cultural interest.' He has kept the argument almost exclusively in the realm of biology, even when I have provided opportunities to shift it to culture.


Well that wasn't bright of him then was it, besides its much easier to 'wipe out' a culture than it is to wipe out genetic code. Thats really the only concern the U.K. should have with these massive amount of Muslim immigrants.

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I find it strange that someone how knows even a modicum of biology would fail to understand that 'race' is practically meaningless in the long run, and that mixing and matching alleles with those who are different from us is very beneficial in the short run.


Well meh, thats not really much of an argument. Beneficial in the short run implies that any benefit wears off after a few generations. But I don't know anything about genetics so whatever.



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16 Nov 2010, 8:07 pm

The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.



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16 Nov 2010, 8:13 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.


Or it could be they honestly aren't racist, but people have been lead to believe they are. Fewer and fewer people will actually listen to people crying racism anymore, the race card has been played way too many times and used as a political weapon way too often.



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16 Nov 2010, 9:10 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.


Or it could be they honestly aren't racist, but people have been lead to believe they are. Fewer and fewer people will actually listen to people crying racism anymore, the race card has been played way too many times and used as a political weapon way too often.


Thats true. But denying racism exists is another thing altogether. If they are not racist then why are they denying that racism exists?



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16 Nov 2010, 9:15 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.


Or it could be they honestly aren't racist, but people have been lead to believe they are. Fewer and fewer people will actually listen to people crying racism anymore, the race card has been played way too many times and used as a political weapon way too often.


Thats true. But denying racism exists is another thing altogether. If they are not racist then why are they denying that racism exists?


Are they denying it exists, or are they just fed up with being called racist because they happen to disagree with the Left wing Progressives.



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16 Nov 2010, 9:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.


Or it could be they honestly aren't racist, but people have been lead to believe they are. Fewer and fewer people will actually listen to people crying racism anymore, the race card has been played way too many times and used as a political weapon way too often.


Thats true. But denying racism exists is another thing altogether. If they are not racist then why are they denying that racism exists?


Are they denying it exists, or are they just fed up with being called racist because they happen to disagree with the Left wing Progressives.


The orignal post says so. I don't know I am not in the US. But believe me there are people in Britain who claim racism and homophopia don't exist. They usually write for the Daily Mail.



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17 Nov 2010, 12:02 am

Robdemanc wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
The reason they claim it doesn't exist is because they know everyone else thinks they are guilty of it. So in order to lose their guilt they deny the existence of what it is they are to feel guilty about. Guilt is one of the most harmful emotions a human can have.


Or it could be they honestly aren't racist, but people have been lead to believe they are. Fewer and fewer people will actually listen to people crying racism anymore, the race card has been played way too many times and used as a political weapon way too often.


Thats true. But denying racism exists is another thing altogether. If they are not racist then why are they denying that racism exists?


Are they denying it exists, or are they just fed up with being called racist because they happen to disagree with the Left wing Progressives.


The orignal post says so. I don't know I am not in the US. But believe me there are people in Britain who claim racism and homophopia don't exist. They usually write for the Daily Mail.


Racism may exist, but it isn't as prevalent as it used to be. Furthermore, there is such a thing as blacks being racist towards whites.

The majority of Conservatives believe that judging someone based on skin pigmentation is stupid.



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17 Nov 2010, 12:12 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Racism may exist, but it isn't as prevalent as it used to be. Furthermore, there is such a thing as blacks being racist towards whites.

The majority of Conservatives believe that judging someone based on skin pigmentation is stupid.


A plurality of utlraconservatives believe:

A) Racism of minorities against whites is just as bad as racism of established whites against minorities.

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B) Despite whites being given exclusive membership in the upper and middle classes, there is no such thing as "white privilege" or racially-influenced structural inequalities.


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17 Nov 2010, 1:01 am

@ Master_Pedant

Two wrongs do not make a right.

You may try to justify certain kinds of racism, but it is unjustifiable.

Also there are African Americans whom are wealthy, there are Hispanic Americans whom are wealthy. Instead of whining about it, and blaming whites how about people work hard in school and actually do something to achieve in life.



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17 Nov 2010, 1:41 am

I am an ultraconservative and yes I am both a homophobe and a racist. Not only that but I am a misogynist as well.
Plus I am an "I.Q. snob".

I am an Aryan with blond hair and blue eyes.

So what? Want to make something of it?



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17 Nov 2010, 2:12 am

Inuyasha wrote:
how about people work hard in school and actually do something to achieve in life.


"school" isn't for everybody, just the brighter unaddled folk. and to impute that the working poor don't work hard is cruel and far off the mark. some just have the good fortune to be born with an energetic well-functioning noodle, so one should not expect everybody else to be in the same lucky boat as oneself. do not confuse working hard with working smart- nobody ever got to the top merely by effort, but by a heaping helping of brains [cleverness] as well.



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17 Nov 2010, 2:14 am

Wombat wrote:
I am an ultraconservative and yes I am both a homophobe and a racist. Not only that but I am a misogynist as well.
Plus I am an "I.Q. snob".

I am an Aryan with blond hair and blue eyes.

So what? Want to make something of it?


at least you let people know where they stand in relation to yourself.