21 Jul 2013, 8:14 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, liberals don't hate the rich.
Coulda fooled me and I'm nowhere near rich.
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They only champion the interests of those without.
Like I said before, they are too focused on hate to really help.
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And as far as flaming the fans of racism are concerned - how is acknowledging the reality of racism fanning it to life? Unlike conservatives, liberals don't sweep racism under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. If anything, it's conservatives who fan the flames of racism by publicly expressing a lack of empathy for blacks and other minority citizens.
If racism is the terrible reality you claim it to be then why do I see so many minorities that are successful or are in the process of becoming successful? Some are very successful and got that way by making an honest living. No one kept them from doing anything and the'll tell you so. The left's idea of empathy is to keep shelling out welfare instead of actual hope. Why? Because that's the bread and butter of the liberal democrat; keep them on the dole, keep their vote, and have something to point to when accusing the right of being non-empathetic.
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21 Jul 2013, 8:40 pm
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Kraichgauer wrote:
No, liberals don't hate the rich.
Coulda fooled me and I'm nowhere near rich.
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They only champion the interests of those without.
Like I said before, they are too focused on hate to really help.
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And as far as flaming the fans of racism are concerned - how is acknowledging the reality of racism fanning it to life? Unlike conservatives, liberals don't sweep racism under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. If anything, it's conservatives who fan the flames of racism by publicly expressing a lack of empathy for blacks and other minority citizens.
If racism is the terrible reality you claim it to be then why do I see so many minorities that are successful or are in the process of becoming successful? Some are very successful and got that way by making an honest living. No one kept them from doing anything and the'll tell you so. The left's idea of empathy is to keep shelling out welfare instead of actual hope. Why? Because that's the bread and butter of the liberal democrat; keep them on the dole, keep their vote, and have something to point to when accusing the right of being non-empathetic.
In answer to you:
I never said I hated you, or anybody.
And yes, the left has helped with voter protection, and yes, with access to social programs allowing for greater education, or just access to being able to eat or have a roof over their heads.
And absolutely, it's proof things are much better than ever before that many minorities are becoming successful. But to say that there's nothing from keeping others from success is absolute nonsense. Consciously or unconsciously, minorities are still seen by many as the lesser. The right constantly attacks blacks and others for mentioning inequality on one hand, while on the other, blames them for crime and poverty. And as a matter of fact, without food and shelter, hope is going to be all the more absent from minority communities.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
21 Jul 2013, 8:48 pm
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I know that not every autistic is the same, but I'm curious if autistics are more left or more right. Personally, I lean closer towards the left. I was wondering if their were any statistics on this.
Liberal. I think most autistics are a little too smart to be conservative. I mean no offense to conservatives, but most of them are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Think George W. Bush.
Plus since the earnings potential of most autistics is somewhat limited. I think most of us kind of need the government. It makes good sense for us to be liberal.
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21 Jul 2013, 11:25 pm
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I think both of us know there are few areas of the country that could make the Pacific Northwest seem backward.
You're the one who seems to be seeing so much racism.
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True, there are fair minded employers who take a person for the way they present themselves, but to say that there are still not many who aren't motivated by race is naive.
EEO ring any bells for ya? It's been effective here in Dogpatch, hard is it seems to be for you to accept......
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And talking about the "race card" is again an example of conservative lack of empathy.
It is what it is and I've seen it myself enough times to know that it's not imaginary.
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CNN's Don Lemon, who is indeed a very successful black man, recently had recalled how all through growing up, and into adulthood, he had been always scrutinized, always seemingly suspected of being up to no good. After buying a brand new car, he had found himself tailed constantly by the police. What white person has had to put up with that... constantly?
I don't watch news that much, let alone CNN, so I don't know who Don Lemon is. The cops usually don't tail an individual constantly for no reason.
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Blacks and whites use illegal substances at the same rates, but it's blacks who are overwhelmingly arrested and convicted for drug offenses. I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point.
That's totally lost on me. I wouldnt throw anyone in jail over anything drug related. I've had it up to here with the war on drugs.
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Then there's the racist fantasy that blacks are given all the jobs and resources at the expense of whites - never in all my life have I lost out to a black person in regard to employment or housing, etc.
Usually I've heard its the other way around, true or not.
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To say that minorities aren't treated differently by both the law and fellow citizens is naive at best, heartlessly racist at worst.
Ah, so there it is; you're calling me a heartless racist for disagreeing.
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22 Jul 2013, 12:11 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think both of us know there are few areas of the country that could make the Pacific Northwest seem backward.
You're the one who seems to be seeing so much racism.
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True, there are fair minded employers who take a person for the way they present themselves, but to say that there are still not many who aren't motivated by race is naive.
EEO ring any bells for ya? It's been effective here in Dogpatch, hard is it seems to be for you to accept......
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And talking about the "race card" is again an example of conservative lack of empathy.
It is what it is and I've seen it myself enough times to know that it's not imaginary.
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CNN's Don Lemon, who is indeed a very successful black man, recently had recalled how all through growing up, and into adulthood, he had been always scrutinized, always seemingly suspected of being up to no good. After buying a brand new car, he had found himself tailed constantly by the police. What white person has had to put up with that... constantly?
I don't watch news that much, let alone CNN, so I don't know who Don Lemon is. The cops usually don't tail an individual constantly for no reason.
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Blacks and whites use illegal substances at the same rates, but it's blacks who are overwhelmingly arrested and convicted for drug offenses. I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point.
That's totally lost on me. I wouldnt throw anyone in jail over anything drug related. I've had it up to here with the war on drugs.
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Then there's the racist fantasy that blacks are given all the jobs and resources at the expense of whites - never in all my life have I lost out to a black person in regard to employment or housing, etc.
Usually I've heard its the other way around, true or not.
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To say that minorities aren't treated differently by both the law and fellow citizens is naive at best, heartlessly racist at worst.
Ah, so there it is; you're calling me a heartless racist for disagreeing.
No, I'm not calling you a heartless racist - but the types who spout complaints about the race card on talk radio and Fox are.
Sure, there are bitchers and moaners in every group - and black Americans are no exception. But that doesn't mean that every complaint - or even most - about racism is just "playing the race card."
Don Lemon is one of CNN's anchors, an African American, and a gay American to boot. Now, I find it inconceivable for the police to follow Lemon for any other reason than that he's black. His story is very common for black Americans - something which white Americans like ourselves rarely if ever experience. But that doesn't mean that such unfair profiling doesn't happen, even outside of your and my experience.
And no, I don't see a lot of racism in my part of the country, but I'd be a fool if I didn't acknowledge that it exist here. No, I merely have to listen to horror stories from around other parts of the country where conservatives are in denial.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
22 Jul 2013, 2:15 pm
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No, I'm not calling you a heartless racist - but the types who spout complaints about the race card on talk radio and Fox are.
uh huh, drop me to go after Fox.
Sure, there are bitchers and moaners in every group - and black Americans are no exception. But that doesn't mean that every complaint - or even most - about racism is just "playing the race card."
Don Lemon is one of CNN's anchors, an African American, and a gay American to boot. Now, I find it inconceivable for the police to follow Lemon for any other reason than that he's black. His story is very common for black Americans - something which white Americans like ourselves rarely if ever experience. But that doesn't mean that such unfair profiling doesn't happen, even outside of your and my experience.
And no, I don't see a lot of racism in my part of the country, but I'd be a fool if I didn't acknowledge that it exist here. No, I merely have to listen to horror stories from around other parts of the country where conservatives are in denial.
I'll just close with this and then I'm done .
There will always be some level of racism, no matter what, and it goes both ways.
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22 Jul 2013, 2:20 pm
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Kraichgauer wrote:
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No, I'm not calling you a heartless racist - but the types who spout complaints about the race card on talk radio and Fox are.
uh huh, drop me to go after Fox.
Sure, there are bitchers and moaners in every group - and black Americans are no exception. But that doesn't mean that every complaint - or even most - about racism is just "playing the race card."
Don Lemon is one of CNN's anchors, an African American, and a gay American to boot. Now, I find it inconceivable for the police to follow Lemon for any other reason than that he's black. His story is very common for black Americans - something which white Americans like ourselves rarely if ever experience. But that doesn't mean that such unfair profiling doesn't happen, even outside of your and my experience.
And no, I don't see a lot of racism in my part of the country, but I'd be a fool if I didn't acknowledge that it exist here. No, I merely have to listen to horror stories from around other parts of the country where conservatives are in denial.
I'll just close with this and then I'm done .
There will always be some level of racism, no matter what, and it goes both ways.
As unfortunate as that is, I agree 100% with you. Regardless, we still don't have to accept it's existence.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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