School shooting in CT
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But you can't carry a paramedic either. People don't go around carrying IV kits and blood packs, or get specialized training for cannulation, or electrocardiography.
Actually being able to predict fatal medical conditions and treat them? That's protection. That's saving lives.
How many casual Americans know enough knowledge and practice lifesaving skills with the dedication they do to firearms? How many? I'd bet less than 1% take more than a casual basic interest in saving lives, but are more than willing to protest and campaign for firearms easily enough.
It's not a perfect system and never will be.
Adam Lanza should have been spotted as having issues years before and given help before it got that far.
As it turned out, though, he did not and no one was able to stop him once he went to work on those school kids.
So there's two phases:
1. The prevention/intervention phase where they get help before it's too late.
2. The stopping phase where prevention was not offered or it failed and you have to stop an active shooter on the spot with a few bullets.
You know, I wholeheartedly agree.
this would also be good for the economy because it would hire thousands of people
I'm thinking cost and budgeting first because that aint gonna be cheap and, yeah, budget does have to be factored in.
Schools have several entrances including service entrance doors. Can't really make it air-tight.
Just as a note of personal experience: I did, one time, go through a metal detector with a SIG P228 and a spare mag on my person. The detector was on but it didn't alarm.
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But you can't carry a paramedic either. People don't go around carrying IV kits and blood packs, or get specialized training for cannulation, or electrocardiography.
Actually being able to predict fatal medical conditions and treat them? That's protection. That's saving lives.
How many casual Americans know enough knowledge and practice lifesaving skills with the dedication they do to firearms? How many? I'd bet less than 1% take more than a casual basic interest in saving lives, but are more than willing to protest and campaign for firearms easily enough.
It's not a perfect system and never will be.
Adam Lanza should have been spotted as having issues years before and given help before it got that far.
As it turned out, though, he did not and no one was able to stop him once he went to work on those school kids.
So there's two phases:
1. The prevention/intervention phase where they get help before it's too late.
2. The stopping phase where prevention was not offered or it failed and you have to stop an active shooter on the spot with a few bullets.
You know, I wholeheartedly agree.
You must not have read my item 2 where I advocated shooting them.
That takes a gun.
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Forget his mother, already! She’s not the one that pulled the trigger and she can have as many guns as she wanted. Nutty as it is, there’s nothing illegal about arming against zombies.
vermontsavant wrote:
im in favor of doing something that sacrifice some of my gun freedoms now if it stops the violence.i am afraid that if the violence continues we may face a total gun ban.the outdoors is a big part of my life i wouldnt want to loose hunting.

Why am I not surprised that you would take this stand….
So what previous sacrifices on gun freedoms have produced a measurable result in violent crime prevention/reduction? NFA-34, GCA-68, the 1994 AWB, New York’s Sullivan law, etc, etc?
Total gun ban? Not in this century and not in this country. That WOULD trigger an armed revolt.
Why don’t you just pick a side, pro or anti, and stay put? This was we’ll all at least know for sure what your position is.
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Forget his mother, already! She’s not the one that pulled the trigger and she can have as many guns as she wanted. Nutty as it is, there’s nothing illegal about arming against zombies.
vermontsavant wrote:
im in favor of doing something that sacrifice some of my gun freedoms now if it stops the violence.i am afraid that if the violence continues we may face a total gun ban.the outdoors is a big part of my life i wouldnt want to loose hunting.

Why am I not surprised that you would take this stand….
So what previous sacrifices on gun freedoms have produced a measurable result in violent crime prevention/reduction? NFA-34, GCA-68, the 1994 AWB, New York’s Sullivan law, etc, etc?
Total gun ban? Not in this century and not in this country. That WOULD trigger an armed revolt.
Why don’t you just pick a side, pro or anti, and stay put? This was we’ll all at least know for sure what your position is.
i think those are valid stands on the issues.
one of the reasons i dont support more gun control is the slippery slope of: If they first ban only non hunting guns then the next step would be banning hunting guns,things like that are never a line in the sand but a slippery slope,,
yes i do believe my veiws have been consistent on this deabate
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this would also be good for the economy because it would hire thousands of people
I'm thinking cost and budgeting first because that aint gonna be cheap and, yeah, budget does have to be factored in.
Schools have several entrances including service entrance doors. Can't really make it air-tight.
Just as a note of personal experience: I did, one time, go through a metal detector with a SIG P228 and a spare mag on my person. The detector was on but it didn't alarm.
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Pardon me for posting in bold. This is an unabashed attempt to attract attention, but it is not for me.
Please visit the following post:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt218321.html
Thanks.
That is all.
Carry on.
I'm not suggesting anyone is. Simply asking that if anyone is inclined to, to add a quick post to the thread if they wish. That is all this is about. Nothing more.
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Raptor, the mother's gun ownership cannot be ignored. Like it or not, it's part of what led up to the tragic series of events. Just because it's inconvenient, you do not wish to consider it but I raise a valid point. The guns were purchased for her protection and they were used to kill her. This is a very important realization.
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I'm not suggesting anyone is. Simply asking that if anyone is inclined to, to add a quick post to the thread if they wish. That is all this is about. Nothing more.
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Last edited by vermontsavant on 17 Dec 2012, 2:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
in massachusetts you can go to jail just for having a tiny portion of a gun safe or cabinette that has glass in it.the issue was did the mother follow this law not do we need such a law because most states already have them.my state vermont does not have these laws but most follow them voluntarily.if you take a gun safety coarse in vermont the instructors give trigger locks to all puppils
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NP. (Trying not to quote myself too much too, else appearing to self promote, which is not the purpose at all)
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arming certain teachers would be cheaper, each school should have a least a few tooled up teachers....
http://www.examiner.com/article/arming- ... nd?cid=rss
[img][800:788]http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IsraeliTeacherArmed.jpg[/img]
That takes a gun.
Ah, you see, I assumed you meant police using rubber bullets/ non lethal rounds as they are paid by taxes to do.
My mistake.
Surfman, that photo is disturbing

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