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24 Jan 2017, 10:14 pm

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Speaking just for myself, it's been a relatively new development to actually have anything done about the rampant conservative bashing that's gone on here for years, and I'm having a hard time switching from a war footing mentality that views mocking liberals as justified counter-punching. I wish I knew how to just reset my own experience and resentment, but that's been a slow and difficult project.

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24 Jan 2017, 10:28 pm

Hey, Adamantium. I feel like I stand up against all kinds of unfair attacks, unless they are really funny. The attacks you leveled against me recently weren't particularly funny, sorry.

I hope you don't mean to lump me in to your group. I might tolerate more unfair criticism of people on the left than I do of people on the right, but the people on the left are my friends while the people on the right are my family. I think my friends can take a joke better than my family. True, my family more often tells my friends that they can't take a joke, but my friends bite their tongues more often and I'm glad they don't make those obvious jokes. My family would not take them well.

So if I speak out more often against unfair criticism of people on the right than on the left, I have reasoned and consistent principles on which I do so.

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24 Jan 2017, 10:46 pm

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^^^that mighta been one of those "straw that broke the camel's back" deals with that insensitive man who bothered that tired woman.

From what I heard, she spoke to him first by asking the man if he was there to protest the inauguration.
When the man replied that he was there to "celebrate America", she went on a tirade.

if that man had any sensitivity at all, he would have told the woman something along the lines of "I don't discuss politics with strangers or in mixed company," and left her to her own devices.

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25 Jan 2017, 12:06 am

Why yes, yes he is.

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25 Jan 2017, 12:43 am

...What does : PPR : mean in this context ? I
A search found me no answer .

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Adamantium wrote:

It seems curious and interesting that when a person on this board criticizes "conservatives" or "the right" for anything, there is a howl of outrage that this is an intolerable calumny, not to be borne, but the same people are perfectly OK with criticism of "the left" and "liberals" and portrayal of the actions of a tiny number of people on the fringes of the left as somehow representative of everyone on "the left."

In certain corners, justice and fairness are really only concerns when they align with team goals, it seems.

Since turnabout is fair play...

I wish the Right would make up it's mind.

Dissent is...

2001-2009: TREASON!
2009-2017: The only defense against Tyranny and the anti-Christ. The duty of every patriot.
2017 -: TREASON!

Yours was the third post in a row to point the finger right back at the "right", though it was arguably the least subtle

I think there are more than adequate checks and balances on PPR at the moment, though there have definitely been times that was not the case.[/quote]

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25 Jan 2017, 12:47 am

Dox47 wrote:

I can see how that would be. Given current events, it seems likely that political discussions will remain charged for some time.

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Hey, Adamantium. I feel like I stand up against all kinds of unfair attacks, unless they are really funny. The attacks you leveled against me recently weren't particularly funny, sorry.

No attack intended, nor any mockery.

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I hope you don't mean to lump me in to your group. ... So if I speak out more often against unfair criticism of people on the right than on the left, I have reasoned and consistent principles on which I do so.

No, those comments were not about you but a general situation on these forums.

ASS-P, PPR = Politics, Philosophy & Religion

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25 Jan 2017, 3:26 am

Dox47 wrote:

Adamantium wrote:

And it hasn't just been conservative bashing. Other types of intolerance have been ignored (and in many cases had their apologists) due to a "leftist" bias.

I certainly wouldn't agree with anyone who believes there's been an over-correction... yet.

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25 Jan 2017, 4:40 am

Darmok wrote:

From law professor Glenn Reynolds at USA Today:
"What Fuels Trump Derangement Syndrome? Gentry Liberals’ Status Anxiety."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /96155458/

Are you Trumps personal ultra-partisan hack? Maybe people don't like trump because he has proven himself to have the personality of a bully. I forget you conservatives like bullies.

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25 Jan 2017, 4:50 am

Ada

...Thank you . I thought that it was meant in a Washington context , now I see you were referrring to this PPR forum .

mantium wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

I can see how that would be. Given current events, it seems likely that political discussions will remain charged for some time.

jrjones9933 wrote:

Hey, Adamantium. I feel like I stand up against all kinds of unfair attacks, unless they are really funny. The attacks you leveled against me recently weren't particularly funny, sorry.

No attack intended, nor any mockery.

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No, those comments were not about you but a general situation on these forums.

ASS-P, PPR = Politics, Philosophy & Religion

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25 Jan 2017, 4:58 am

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Datalis wrote:

The Nazis were the "National Socialist German Workers Party". There was only one candidate that ran this past election that openly advocated socialism and it wasn't Trump.

the nazis weren't actually socialist, they tried to take a third position in between that and hard capitalism at times.

That's not my point. My point was, if any candidate is comparable to Hitler, it's Bernie.

Um. The defining aspect of the Nazi party was extreme nationalism. Who campaigned on a more nationalistic platform? Trump or Sanders?

I'm not one to compare Trump to Hitler, but making a comparison by homing in on one word, "socialism", is idiotic. Socialism is a vague term. Nobody can even agree on what it means. I'd advocate throwing it to the dust bin.

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25 Jan 2017, 5:10 am

nurseangela wrote:

Everyone on SSI is not Aspie. A lot of Aspies here work in libraries. I work nights because I can't take the noise and people of days. It's a spectrum, right? NT's have some of the same anxiety symptoms, fibromyalgia pain, etc. Lots of Aspies here go to school and college. Most here are high functioning. I don't understand why people here are so quick to dismiss Aspies as not able to be productive in society. Several here are tons smarter than most NT's I have met. Maybe, I just choose to think a person is not disposable just because they have an affliction. To me, once a person is placed on SSI, society is pretty much saying that person is not necessary or needed. I prefer to keep hope in someone.

Why do you believe working for money is the only way a person can contribute?

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25 Jan 2017, 5:19 am

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cathylynn wrote:

many people such as myself are only on disability temporarily. sure, i could have stocked shelves, but my volunteer work was more fulfilling and valuable to society (teaching folks to read, reading the newspaper to the blind, teaching kids to swim, advocating for folks with mental illness.) had i been forced to stock shelves, i would have been demoralized and probably suicided. plus, i'd've not been able to afford my medicine and would have been in and out of hospital with resultant bankruptcy. stocking shelves is honorable work but would have been a horrible fit for me. luckily, the judge at my disability hearing had a heart.

A lot of people have to do jobs they don't like doing. - me for one. Demoralized? A person does what they have to. I'm famed depressed right now myself. I'd like to get this SSI and stop doing my highly pressured job and do something I'd like to do, but I'm a realist and I have bills to pay. I try to fix my own depression by not taking drugs, stopping alcohol, and whatever else I can think of. That's why I don't socialize and just go to work because that all the energy I can muster. My job and school wear me out. But like Mr. R., I still pull myself out of bed and keep going because I have to.

You have very mild depression. You have no f*****g idea what severe depression is like.

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25 Jan 2017, 5:58 am

This thread has (earlier) attracted posts from a (conservative) sock puppet posting under two different usernames and is now deteriorating into personal nastiness between two genuine members in the form of tit for tat backbiting. Time for a halt. The sock puppets won't be contributing further on WP.

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26 Jan 2017, 10:52 pm

Moderating - Unlocked

Play by the rules and it will stay that way.

If you think this thread is going to cause you to say things you shouldn't, please take some time elsewhere to collect yourself, and only return to it when you are in a better state of mind.

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27 Jan 2017, 1:10 am

I just heard a business analyst make a really good point. Trump has the right idea but the wrong target. Mexicans are taking jobs that Americans don't even want, and the people who are taking the jobs that Americans do want are the damn robots. Deport all the Robots!

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27 Jan 2017, 3:01 am

jrjones9933 wrote:

I just heard a business analyst make a really good point. Trump has the right idea but the wrong target. Mexicans are taking jobs that Americans don't even want

I'm not sure about the jobs Americans don't even want argument I've heard several times. I mean were theses jobs only designed for Mexicans* to do? Have they always only been done by Mexicans?
Are we sure the thousands of impoverished unemployed homeless Americans don't want/need these jobs?

jrjones9933 wrote:

and the people who are taking the jobs that Americans do want are the damn robots. Deport all the Robots!

I agree. Mechanization in many cases is as bad as outsourcing. A way for CEO's to get rich by depriving others of a livelihood. I can see Trump clamping down on it.

*Note: I'm talking about Mexicans (or any illegal immigrants for that matter), not Mexican Americans.

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