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The outlines of the attempted coup become clearer every day. And that's exactly what this was: the first attempted coup in American history. Trials for treason should be on order.

Strzok-Page texts suggested using post-election briefing to gather information on Trump team

Nine days after the presidential election, FBI agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page exchanged texts that Fox News has learned are under new scrutiny by congressional investigators reviewing the genesis of the Russia probe; chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge reports.

Text messages between former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page indicate they discussed using briefings to the Trump team after the 2016 election to identify people they could "develop for potential relationships," track lines of questioning and "assess" changes in "demeanor" – language one GOP lawmaker called “more evidence” of irregular conduct in the original Russia probe.

Fox News has learned the texts, initially released in 2018 by a Senate committee, are under renewed scrutiny, with GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Homeland Security Committee chair Ron Johnson sending a letter Thursday night to Attorney General Bill Barr pushing for more information on the matter.

"Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed," the senators wrote.

President Trump, speaking to Fox News' "Hannity" Thursday night, responded to this report by unloading on Strzok and Page.

"They were trying to infiltrate the administration," Trump told Sean Hannity. "Really, it's a coup. It's spying. It's hard to believe in this country we would have had that."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/strzok ... trump-team

Lmao yeah right! And America "does not torture".

So if a relationship between a newly elected President and a hostile foreign power is discovered, it's treason for the FBI to investigate? And yes, there was Russian involvement, as it was revealed by the Mueller Report.

Wait, so trying to make someone else the president by voting for him counts as "overthrowing the president"? So voting for someone else is an act of treason? That doesn't sound very democratic.

Are you American? Did you swear allegiance to the constitution? Do you know what's in it? Like how to impeach a president, and why? The why needs good reasons. whether there are good reasons you find out by investigating. you start an investigation if you have reasonable suspicion. Not proof beyond reasonable doubt. whether you have that, you find out throguh the investigation. An investigation, based on reasonable suspicion, whether a candidate for president is an agent or unwitting stooge for a hostile power, is both within the spirit and the letter of the constitution.

And please do explain why an investigation that the president says competely exonerates him is an attempted coup? Just how do you overthrow a president by completely exonerating him? Or is your problem that the investigation does not exonerate the president? Either your president lied, or it was not an attempted coup. Take your pick. Do tell us when you make up your mind.

The first of many investigations into widespread criminality, let us hope.

Washington Examiner @dcexaminer

.@ChuckGrassley asks Bill Barr: "What are you doing to investigate unauthorized media contacts by the department and FBI officials during the Russian investigation?"

Barr: "We have multiple criminal leak investigations underway."

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1 ... 7322339330

Besides being able to survive for a life time without a heart, Grassley is a partisan hack.

This could be considered trolling. THERE IS NO OBAMAGATE!! !

Bill Barr is going to expose Spygate, and the Democrat-Media Russia Collusion Complex is panicking

Something has changed. Attorney General William Barr has become Public Enemy No. 1 for the Democrats and supportive mainstream media.

It started with Barr’s four-page summary of the Mueller Report’s conclusions, which punctured the almost three year narrative that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The conclusion of no conspiracy or coordination, accurately summarized in the Barr letter, was verified when the full Mueller Report was released three weeks later....

Barr’s letter also accurately set forth that Mueller did not find obstruction of justice, declining to reach any determination on that issue, instead laying out the arguments for and against. That no obstruction recommendation also was verified when the Mueller Report was released....

When Barr testified in Congress that “spying” on the Trump campaign did take place, the attacks on Barr took on a different and more vicious tone.

That tone went into overdrive during Barr’s testimony earlier this week, when it was revealed that Mueller had expressed concern that Barr’s four-page letter did not include all the context of the full report. But Mueller, according to Barr, did not claim the four-page letter was inaccurate or misleading, rather, the media coverage was the problem.

These are all details, none of which paint Barr in a bad light. But Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, have decided to accuse Barr of perjury and demand he resign. Barr didn’t commit perjury, not even close, but that’s besides the point to Democrats and the media.

What is going on here? Why are they going after Barr with such ferocity?

It has nothing to do with the Mueller Report, or the four-page summary, or the timing of the release of the full report.

It was Barr’s comments about spying on the Trump campaign, and his pledge to investigate that spying, that explains the frenzy to take down Barr. That spying, regardless of whether lawful, has the potential to be a scandal that could touch deep into the Obama administration, and some former officials who loom large in the anti-Trump resistance.

It also could reach deep into the media, with the involvement of Fusion GPS in feeding Russian-provided, Clinton/DNC paid-for, disinformation to the mainstream journalist community.

So the stakes are huge. The Russian collusion scandal may be a Democrat and media scandal. People may go to jail for that collusion, and if so, they may be the first people to go to jail over Russian collusion involving the 2016 election.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/05/b ... panicking/

Wake me up if that happens.

What I mean is the election being more like getting rid of Trump than it being about the strengths of the canidate running against him.

I've heard it said that one of the flaws of the Clinton campaign was too much emphasis on "I am not Donald Trump" and not enough emphasis on "I am Hillary Clinton".

So I'm talking about bad campaign strategy that focuses more on Trump than the person running against him.

I'm still waiting for evidence of the child molestation ring operating out of the basement of a building with no basement.

I have heard a Trump supporter say that it doesn't matter when Trump lies, because he says what his supporters feel, and that makes it an emotional truth. Even more explicit than Newt Gingrich here, who goes from cherry picking to "I go with how people feel":



Has anyone here ever seen Darmok either withdraw or defend a claim when someone said it's factually wrong?

I think you're asking the wrong person that question